Hinduism Defense

Kuldip Nayar's Hindu-Berating tactics

2009-11-14T21:31:00.001-08:00

Subj: Kuldip Nayar's Hindu-Berating tactics
1. bk chaudhari
to me

Dear Attriji

Kindly peruse Kuldip Nayar's article in the Tribune of 13th Nov. It is captioned under !"India is a plural socuiety - Why Can't RSS understand this simple truth?

www.tribuneindia.com

Opinion Column

Regards

BK Chaudhari

2. My Take:
Chaudhari Sahib: Thanks for drawing my attention to Kuldip Nayar's Hindu-demoralising observations.Guys like Kuldip Nayar, being ashamed of being Hindus, cannot see what the sign says:
Colossal Ideological & physical aggression ( from Islam & Christianity ) suffered by Hinduism, with staggering losses in terms of population, territory, morale, and mental attitude.

It is a pity they are double-crossing their Hinduism,

3. Writes Signor Kuldip Nayar:
India is a plural society.
Why can't RSS understand this simple truth ?
by Kuldip Nayar

The Rashtriyaswyam Sewak Sang ( RSS ) is bad enough, to represent an antediluvian philosophy, which has injected the poison of parochialism into the body politics of India. But when the organisation continues to pursue the same agenda, by digging up old controversies, it harms the country's integrity.

COMMENT: I don't think much of Kuldip Nayar's practice of demagoguery, his lies & resistance to reasoning. Numskulls like Kuldip Nayar are Not only ignorant of Hindu Spirituality & History, but are totally unable to grasp the true character & magnitude of Islamic ( as well as Christian ) aggression. They have been trained to look at the Hindu society, through the eyes of Leftist & Phoney-Liberal ideologies. Almost always they side with Phoney-Liberal politicians, who are vote-hungry, sloganised, short-sighted, and barely Hindu.

I do a laugh in the middle of their tub-thumper demagoguery.

4. Having said the above, I must bring to the attention of Hindus, that RSS is Not what its founder intended it to be ( as RRS: Rashtriya Rakshak Sang ). Dr, Hedgewar founded RSS during the British Regime in India, and theorised that RSS would modify itself, with the march of time ( and needs of the time ). But RSS has Not refashioned nor reworked itself, even though decades have elapsed since its inception, and like a machine-driven robot, displays & transports its song of service ( as a Sewak-Sang ). But what is so great about service ? Even a mule can do service, in fact a donkey can do plenty of service. But can a mule defend Hinduism or strengthen it ? Not by a long shot !

Because of this prevarication, the S in RSS that stands for Service, has always bothered me.

5. RSS would be much more powerful & respected to its account, when it becomes what its founder had intended it to be.

Surinder Paul Attri

American Govewrnment move to seize Mosques and Islamic Education Center Supporting Terrorism

2009-11-12T22:38:00.001-08:00

Subj: American Govewrnment move to seize Mosques and Islamic Education Center Supporting Terrorism

1. American Govewrnment move to seize Mosques and Islamic Education Center Supporting Terrorism

2. My Take:

The mosques & Islamic Centers supporting terrorism, are Despicable. We know what is inside them...lots of potential bad-guys, contemptible, and out-and-out detestable.

3. Let us hope the forfeiture case makes headway quickly, and the mosques & Islamic Centers, are given the gate.

4. When that happens, that will be the EUREKA moment.

Surinder Paul Attri

Devil & God of Islam & Christianity

2009-11-07T16:18:00.000-08:00

Subj: Devil & God of Islam & Christianity
1. Hello,
I simply am amused to read, Pakistan se zinda bhaag"...How true...how funny...how tragic...all at the same time...what a wonderful result of the "white western enlightenment" & their "crusade to improve the world with the peace that is christianity"...no,w, please don't tell me christians are not key players in the current violence accross the planet, violence that can be traced back to several centuries....all in the name of getting every one a piece of heaven...look at the hell it has created...Did the christians have to do this just to illustrate the truth of their saying, "road to hell is paved with good intentions?"
Namaste
Poonam

2. My Take:
People generally don't believe me when I enunciate that, there is No difference between Islam & Christianity. They cogitate that, I am pulling their leg. But I am Not pulling their leg or pushing their foot, I am serious as heart-attack. Both Islam & Christianity are two sides of the same coin, even though it appears un-believable.

3. Both Islam & Christianity ( as well as Judaism ) are Abrahamic religions ( Father Abraham was the First-Fascist & the First-Barbarian ). Judaism is getting away from being Devil-Centered, but both Islam & Christianity are devoted to the scoundrel-Devil. Both are diabolic and want to induct large bodies of Kafir/Heathen troops, into their own camps of servitude, subjugation, and slavery. They are Totally convinced that, Kafirs/Heathens are headed for Hell, and they only want to save them from going to Hell ( This is the Biggest-Bullsh** ).

4. To be completely equitable & even-handed, the Fiend of Islam & Christianity is far more civilized & refined than their condemnable-God ( who ought to be sentenced to Hell ). One of the Churchill's looked at the Christian-God & commented:

" This God is SH**. "

5. Given the choice between Islamic & Christian Devil & their God, I would Cuddle their Blue-Dog Devil, any day of the week.

Surinder Paul Attri

Slogan " Pakistan Zindabad "

2009-11-06T00:54:00.000-08:00

Subj: Slogan " Pakistan Zindabad "
1. *In view of the current situation " Pakistan Zindabad " slogan has been
changed to " Pakistan se Zinda Bhaag . "*

2. Pakistan is packed with slogans. But the bona fide slogan that the Pakis must shout is:
Why did we hurry so much, to set out for Pakistan ?

Surinder Paul Attri

Wendy Doniger's entourage

2009-11-01T16:09:00.000-08:00

Subj: Wendy Doniger's entourage
Shri Dewanad Jee:

1. Here is Wendy Doniger's entourage:

Tel: (773) 702-8239
Fax: (773) 702-8223
E-mail: don8@midway.uchicago.edu

* Divinity School | The University of Chicago
* 1025 E. 58th St. | Chicago, IL 60637

2. Now you can give her the boot, counter her nauseous lies about Hinduism, and disclose the moral & intellectual deficiencies of her thinking,

Surinder Paul Attri

Shri Dewanand's request for Wendy Doniger's address & E-Mail

2009-10-31T23:24:00.000-07:00

Subj: Shri Dewanand's request for Wendy Doniger's address & E-Mail
1. namaskar surinder,

I want to attack wendy doniger, but I need her address and email. can you find it for me.

I will sent a waction letter to her and the paper next week.
look on my site, then you will find the waction letters section. public letters. it do works in Holland already. now I am going global with these actions.

send me more information if you have it.

thank you for mailing me

dewanand
delft the Netherlands
critical podium dewanand

2. My Take:
Namaskar to you also Shri Dewanand Jee.

3. I am passing your message around amongst our Hindus. Some amongst them are Red-Blooded Hindus. They either know Wendy Doniger's whereabouts or can find out. I am biding my time, to make out how you bang Wendy Doniger. It will be much more fun-filled for me, than watching a Kick-A** Video. If I were anywhere near Wendy Doniger, I would love to kick her A**.

4. Hindus out there: If any of you know Wendy Doniger's address or E-Mail, would you mind passing it around either to me or to Shri Dewanand at his E-Mail address of:
waldo@ziggo.nl

5. Shri Devanad is a plucky & gutsy Hindu from Netherland. He will put Wendy Doniger in her place.

6. Thanks for all the helping-hand, that you provide for the good of our Great Hindu Order.

Surinder Paul Attri

My reaction to Prof. Wendy Doniger's nonsense

2009-10-30T18:53:00.000-07:00

Subj: My reaction to Prof. Wendy Doniger's nonsense
1.

Prof. Wendy Doniger Unmasked

Dear Colleagues/Supporters:

I am very pleased to enclose herewith an article that appeared in Outlook India, dated October 28, 2009. Aditi Banerjee wrote this article in response to Prof. Wendy Doniger’s interview in the Outlook India issue of October 26, 2009. I am also providing the URL for the web article in Outlook India below:

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?262511

In the interview Doniger has unfairly tried to vilify and demonize traditional Hinduism, through a mixture of factual errors, half-truths and inaccurate translations from the Sanskrit language of the Ramayana.

BBC has this to say about Doniger:

“Professor Wendy Doniger is known for being rude, crude and very lewd in the hallowed portals of Sanskrit Academics. All her special works have revolved around the subject of sex in Sanskrit texts ranging from Siva: The Erotic Ascetic to Tales of Sex and Violence”...

Aditi Banerjee in her article quotes the Wales Professor of Sanskrit, Harvard University who has said that Prof. Wendy Doniger’s translations are “unreliable” and “idiosyncratic.” Several other sources have not only systematically demolished the myth that Ms. Doniger is an expert on Hinduism but also exposed her false and superficial scholarship.

It is a matter of pride and satisfaction that many young, energetic and highly educated Hindu boys and girls all over the world are taking up cudgels on their own to challenge these phony experts on Hinduism. They surreptitiously sabotage traditional Hindu culture, traditions and Dharma.

We are very proud of Aditi, and congratulate her for vigorously convincing and forceful refutation.

I urge you all to read and widely circulate Aditi’s article. If you have contacts / friends in the media please ask them to reprint her article so that even more people may get an idea of Hinduism as practiced by its adherents.

Narain Kataria

(718) 478-5735

2. My Take
Yes, give Hell to Prof. Wendy Doniger.
She is sexually-obsessed, is inventing lies, and is Anti-Hindu.

3. What is needed is:
a. Demolish the circus that surrounds her name.
b. Explode the myth of her being an expert on Hinduism.

Surinder Paul Attri

Response to Shri Nablith

2009-10-27T22:44:00.000-07:00

Subj: Response to Shri Nablith
1. Hi Surinder Attri,
nablith has made the following comment on your profile:
hello mr.surinder attri i feel that mr.pope must no fear about the welfare of christians in india as theres no threat for christians in india instead he must concern about the growth of islam all over the world rapidly which is definitely not good for humanity and for other religions .in india hindutva groups must concentrate on muslims and islam rather than on christian missionaries in india muslims and islam is the real threat for welfare of hindhus and hinduism if hindhutva groups take no steps against muslims and islam in india i m sure that there will no hindus left in india sooner or later as india is the only last hope of hindhusim where lifes and future of hindhus are stake in the name of secularism ,globalisation and modernisation so i urge all of hindu brothers who ever possible form a group and take necessary actions to prevent islam and muslims from taking over our future,life and welfare stop discussions and chating and work upon it as actions against muslims and islam cannot done by a single person it is a group actitvity so i request you to unite and do something which will make hindhus proud and feel safe in their home land if at all possible i will pleasured to join to save my hindhuism and hindhus from evil forces of islam and make india a hindutva rastra thank you waiting for replyu can also contact me at my email id:nablithsparrow@gmail.com
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2. My Take:
Thanks for your comment, Shri Nablith Jee;

3. To be brutally-frank & straightforward, I have no use for either Christianity or Islam. I neither approve the lamebrain-barbarism of Christianity, nor the Bad-A** barbarism of Hazrat Mohammad's ( SBUH: Sh** Be Upon HIm ) Islam.

4. Pope is a Sh**-Head, he is propagating Devil's religion ( Christianity ). Hazrat Mohammad is indulgent in sexual orgies, like there is no tomorrow. Humanity needs neither.

5. Quote: instead he must concern about the growth of islam all over the world rapidly which is definitely not good for humanity
COMMENT: Not true.
Islam is Not growing all over the world. In the continent of Africa, six million Moslems are converting to Christianity every single year.
In Indonesia, several thousand or perhaps a hundred thousand Moslems are converting to Hinduism every single month.

In India, it is Much Much easier to convert Moslems to Hinduism, than it is to re-convert Christians to Hinduism. The Hindu's problem in India is " The Rotten Hindu Leadership. " The Hindu Leadership in India does Not have what it takes to do the job, of Hinduism Defense & Hinduism Strengthening.

6. Quote: so i urge all of hindu brothers who ever possible form a group and take necessary actions to prevent islam and muslims from taking over our future,life and welfare stop discussions and chating and work upon it as actions against muslims and islam cannot done by a single person it is a group actitvity so i request you to unite and do something which will make hindhus proud and feel safe in their home land if at all possible i will pleasured to join to save my hindhuism and hindhus from evil forces of islam and make india a hindutva rastra

COMMENT: This approach sounds good but will Not work. Reason:
We Hindus are selfish, too damn selfish. Our highest priority is on our personal welfare ( and on the welfare of our family ). We have the Lowest priority on the welfare of the rest of the Hindu community. That is the REALITY of life.

7. Conventional methods ( that is, methods that have been tried during the last 1200 years ) will NOT work. Their chance of success is a BIG FAT ZERO.

New & Smart methods " ONLY " can work, to demolish both Islam & Christianity in India.

8. New & Smart methods are " The Muscle Of The Hindu. "

Surinder Paul Attri

Pope's plague of persecution-complex

2009-10-26T22:05:00.000-07:00

Subj: Pope's plague of persecution-complex
1. VATICAN'S PERSECUTION COMPLEX

Dr. Babu Suseelan

The Catholic Pope Benedict has issued a statement requesting Catholics around the world to pray for Catholics against persecution of Christians in India. As usual, the Pope love to claim falsely that Christians are persecuted. Catholics generally suffer from "Martyrdom Complex" and persecution complex. Phobia of Christians is an irrational and persistent fear of non Christians and their pluralistic way of life. Since Catholicism is a closed, totalitarian, rigid and reductionist dogma, the persistent irrational phobia almost invariable provokes an immediate anxiety response. Pope Benedict's statement against Hindus and prayer services for Christians to highlight perceived irrational fear of persecution is a futile attempt to invigorate Catholics around the world. Catholics are under severe pressure around the world due to Nun Running, atrocious news about coercive religious conversion, and Clergy sex abuse. Several Catholics diocese in the US were forced to declare bankruptcy. The Church was forced to pay millions of dollar as compensation for sex abuse victims by Catholics priests. Pope's statement is quite obviously an attempt to boost morale during this trying times. During the day of Via Crucis, the Pope was trying to make too many biased statements as a diversionary tactic.

In fact, Christians in India have been colluding with foreign Christian colonialists to obtain undue advantages for hundreds of years. Christians in India have more constitutional privileges, quota system and financial incentives than the majority Hindus. Most of the educational institutions, Banks and political institutions are managed and controlled by Christians. India, in fact is ruled by the Italian Catholic Sonia and her Vatican gang. Keep in mind, Christianity in India represents totalitarianism, tyranny, and autocratic tendencies. The Pope's false statement of Christian persecution in India is part of Christian psychological warfare to mentally misguide and misdirect gullible Hindus.

The Vatican and the Catholic Church has, over the past several decades, played an important role in promoting conversion, subversive activities, terrorism, psychological warfare and social crisis in non Christian nations. It would be correct to paint the Catholic Church as a negative influence on world events. The Vatican promotes "Martyrdom Complex" and "Persecution Complex" as a defense mechanism to divert attention from Christian subversive activities in Nepal, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Timur, and South America. The Pope's deliberate ignorance on Vatican's complicity on Holocaust, Witch hunt, slaughter of the Native Indians and Africans is part of the Vatican's anti Hindu political strategy.
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Vatican's Good Friday to focus on Christian persecutions in India
VATICAN CITY: The faithful will be invited to reflect on the persecution of Christians in India in prayers at this year's traditional Good Friday Way of the Cross ceremony at Rome's Colosseum, the Vatican said Tuesday.
Pope Benedict XVI is set to preside the evening ceremony - also known as Via Crucis - which commemorates Jesus' final hours, including his crucifixion.
Archbishop Thomas Menamparampil of Guwahati, India, has been given the task of writing the meditations for this year's Via Crucis which will focus on 'evil in the world, on pain and on the various forms of suffering,' the Vatican said.
'In this context, he (Menamparampil) will also refer to Christians who suffer persecution in India and in other countries, as well as to the violence that destroys ethnic and religious groups, and to conflicts fuelled by economic interests,' the Vatican said.
Violence aimed at Christians have increased in India in recent years including in the eastern state of Orissa, which witnessed widespread anti-Christian violence after the Aug 23, 2008 murder of Hindu leader Laxmananda Saraswati an attack police blamed on
Maoist rebels.
Nearly 40 people, mostly Christians, were killed in the Hindu-Christian violence in the state that continued over two months.
The Vatican notes how for the 'second consecutive year, the Pope wishes to draw attention to the continent of Asia' given that last year the Way of the Cross prayers then penned by Hong Kong's Cardinal Joseph Zen Ze-kiun also focused on the 'persecutions the Catholic Church faces in various part of the world.'

2. My Take:

Pope's persecution complex is Completely out of place & bizarre.

3. Pope is designing an outlandish hypocrisy, requesting prayers for protection of Christians in India ( against persecution ), but Not saying a didly about persecution of Non-Christians by his Christians in NE India.

4. Pope's two-faced perspective is Satan's affliction & disease of Pope's mind. If Pope Benedict fears God & shuns evil, then needs to come clean. Otherwise he is headed straight for Hell ( on the chariot of hypocrisy ).

Surinder Paul Attri

India Should Declare Tibet as a Separate Country

2009-10-21T22:43:00.000-07:00

Subj: India Should Declare Tibet as a Separate Country
1. India Should Declare Tibet as a Separate Country
Recently China declared Jammu and Kashmir as a separate country. The whole world knows that Jammu and Kashmir are part of India. However, they did not include the part of Kashmir which has been grabbed by Pakistan. I see this as China slapping India. I would recommend India make a map declaring Tibet as a separate independent country. This means we slapped them back. The way the congress party is ruling they might like to turn the other cheek. What we have to use is a Chanakya-gheri strategy. China has already claimed part of India’s territory as part of China. At this time, Pakistan and China know that India is getting strong and prosperous. Their strategy is to split up India into many many pieces and weaken it. At this time, India is being attacked by many sides so what we have to do is unite and remain strong and may God help India. Jay Hind!
Bharat J. Gajjar
2. My Take:
Most definitely yes. Chinks need tit for tat.
3. Neither Tibet nor Xinjiang belongs to China. Both are victims of Westermost & Inglorious-Imperialism of Chinese Warlords. Both have been swindled out of their dignity & respectful deportment. India has no need to award deference to the Chinks, which they do not deserve.
4. Tibetans are racially different from Han-Chinese & do not want anything to do with the Pekinese. Uighurs ( of Xinjiang ) are more like the other Central-Asians ( like the Tajikstanis, Turkmenistanis et al ) than the Pekinese. They are Moslems, they have no use for the Han-Chinese, they are getting ready to start their Jehad against the Chinks. If it creates hell for the Chinks, then let it be.
5. Chinese control of both these places is an unmitigated cultural disaster. By recognizing Chinese control ( manipulation ), India is buttressing bossy & arbitrary, imperialism of Barbaric Chinese Warlords.
Surinder Paul Attri

Two types of Dhimmies, those Damn-Dhimmies

2009-10-08T19:43:00.000-07:00

Subj: Two types of Dhimmies, those Damn-Dhimmies
1. Marxist Academic Sree Sreenivasan Working Against Indian Interest

Narain Kataria
According to The Times of India dated October 7, 2009 (article attached), ISI of Pakistan has given an option to the surrendered Taliban either to go to jail or join Jihad against India. This is a very dangerous and frightening news.

On the one hand, Pakistan is deadly determined to destabilize and balkanize India with the help of sleeper cells in India and Taliban in Pakistan, and on the other hand, one far left Dhimmi from Columbia University, New York, Sree Sreenivasan of South Asian Journalists Association, with Hindu sounding name, is encouraging Indian journalists to write stories for the promotion of American Pakistan Foundation.

Please note that there are two types of dhimmis: (i) kafirs who become apologists for Islam, fear and defer to it and seek Islamic favor; and (ii) the subjugated dhimmis who suffer insult, humiliation, torture and brutalities under political Islam.

It is also a matter of great disgust that Sree Sreenivasan is misusing the resources of Indian journalists. He has to be stopped in his sinister design to harm India.

Thousands of Jai Chands and Man Singhs are masquerading as sheep in wolves clothing in our society to befool us, misleads us, weaken us and finally destroy us from within.

Hindus should put a system in place to keep a watch on wolves in sheep’s clothing, expose them, discredit them and boycott them socially.

By the way, Communist Party cardholder Sree Sreenivasan is the son of a former Ambassador of India to USA, Mr. T.P. Sreenivasan.

2. My Take:
Shri Kataria Jee's observations, besides being correct, are Absolutely-Astute.

3. Islam is an imperialistic-ideology, Jehad is its barbaric tool, to wage a relentless war against Kafirs ( Non-Moslem Infidels ) of the world, to Islamicize the world. The whole world Must be brought under the banner of Islam ( you will never get the Moslems to admit it, those damn liar Sullas ! ).

3. Yes,there are TWO types of Dhimmies, as very astutely observed by Shri Kataria Jee. But both types are DANGEROUS.
These Damn-Dhimmies have not only accepted the bestial-savagery of Islam towards innocent-Kafirs ( who have done no harm to Sullas ), but are also pushing the un-suspecting Hindus into the vortex of diabolism. Madness is in abundance in Islam, and serenity is in short supply. There is no way out of the darkness of Islam. We Hindus can ignore the threat of Islam, only at our peril.

4. We Hindus & our Hindu leaders Must re-hinduise out Hindus. Hindus must confront Islam & fight it at All fronts, at ideological, political, and theological fronts.

Surinder Paul Attri

The grit & guts of Ms Wafa Sultan

2009-10-03T22:35:00.000-07:00

Subj: The grit & guts of Ms Wafa Sultan
1. Quote: Needless to say, Wafa Sultan's views herein will raise some hackles. But, just listen to her before you make up your minds one way or the other.

2. My Take:
Yes, her views are going to raise hackles, but she is Not Allah's slave, nor is she Muhammad's flunkey. She has no duty to uphold the travesty of truth, that con-man Hazrat Mohammad's Islam is. She has every liberty & license to pick out the right one, from the mass of fiction & fabrication, to reverse the situation completely.

3. May she drum out the manipulation of Muhammad, and free the Moslem slaves from the deception, trickery, chicanery, and charlatanism that his Islam is.

4. God bless Ms Wafa Sultan. God bless Wafa Sultan's eloquence and her style of expression.

5. And may God condemn the obscenity & dirtiness of Islam.

Surinder Paul Attri

Muthalik visit to Delhi

2009-09-22T17:02:00.000-07:00

Subj: Muthalik visit to Delhi
1. Now this is my kind of hero.
A Hindu talking of Hindu interests. This is the need of the hour. Simple and truthful terms. Hindu, Hinduism, Hindus. Hindu protection, preservation, propagation. '
Does not couch and obfuscate issues with nationalism, cultural nationalism,
Hindutva, inclusive Hindutva, integral humanism and other doublespeak meant for fooling the Hindus.

In Delhi meeting, Muthalik plans his ‘Hindu agenda’

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-delhi-meeting-muthalik-plans-his-hindu-agenda/519668/

In Delhi meeting, Muthalik plans his ‘Hindu agenda’
Suman K Jha, Monday , Sep 21, 2009 at 0455 hrs

Pramod Muthalik, founder of the Sri Ram Sene that attacked women in a Mangalore pub in January this year, was in New Delhi yesterday. He addressed “over a hundred delegates” of Hindu organisations at a meeting held at an “ashram” in Paharganj, near the New Delhi railway station, before slipping out of the Capital today.

Muthalik, who has earned notoriety for attacking pubs, vandalizing churches, and making inflammatory speeches across Karnataka, held forth on his “Hindu agenda” before his audience — a gathering of representatives from fringe organisations having past associations with the RSS, and in some cases, the BJP’s student arm, the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP).

While Muthalik has addressed several meetings in the southern states and Maharashtra in the past, this was his first foray into the national capital.

Deputy Commissioner of Police (Central District) Jaspal Singh — in whose jurisdiction the venue for Muthalik’s meeting lies — said “he was not aware of Muthalik’s presence in Delhi”.

Karnataka Home Minister V S Acharya told The Indian Express, “Muthalik is facing around 40 cases in the state. But I don’t know why he went to Delhi”.

The “delegates” who attended the meeting at Muthalik’s invitation, provided some details of what transpired.

Muthalik is said to have told them: “Pubs, Valentine’s Day, and universities will stay high on our priority list. We now need to focus on the plight of the Hindus in countries like Sri Lanka and Malaysia as well. We have constituted a 15-member body to coordinate our activities across the country.”

Rajeev Chauhan, who claims to have headed the student’s union at Meerut’s Chaudhary Charan Singh University as an ABVP leader in 2004 and now runs an organisation called Hindu Yuva Samkalp, said: “After this fruitful meeting, we now need to fan out to universities and make sure that women students adhere to a dress code. Else they would continue to be waylaid by youth of other communities.”

Sri Ram Sene’s Vilas Pawar, who is also a deputy to Muthalik, said: “There are leaders like Indresh in the RSS who have now taken to appeasing Muslims by launching a forum like the Rashtriya Muslim Manch. We need to resist such tendencies, and fight for the Hindu cause.”

Dhananjay Desai, who heads the Mumbai-based Hindu Rashtra Sena, and was present at Muthalik’s meeting, said: “I organised the attack on Star News in Mumbai in 2006 for carrying a story on a Hindu girl who had been kidnapped by a Muslim boy.”

Around 12 organisations turned up for the meeting, it is learnt. These organisations go by names like Hindu Sanskriti Manch, Hindu People’s Party, Dara Sena, Hindu Yuva Sena, Raudra Sena, Hindu Makkal Katchi and Abhinav Bharat Manch.

Muthalik was present in Delhi on Saturday, the first day of the two-day meeting. He returned to Bangalore on Sunday to report to the police in one of the many cases he faces in the state.

2. My Take:
One Sher ( Lion ) is far better, and far far superior, to a hundred Geedards ( Jackals, lap-dogs ).
Surinder Paul Attri

Phoney-Baloney of Islam

2009-09-19T00:26:00.000-07:00

Subj: Phoney-Baloney of Islam
1. As a converted Muslim, Agha is required to learn all the verses in the Koran through rot learning. During Islamic indoctrination at Islamic religious schools, Muslims are forbidden from reasoning, critical thinking and logical analysis. As a result, when faced with real complex issues they show their intermittent explosive disorder and cognitive confusion. They are forced to abandon all their cultural roots and heritage and chained for ever in Islamic prisons. And they consider Islam as a perfect and perfected religion. As a converted Muslim, Agha is not expected to read Bhagavat Gita or quote from it. If it helps him to overcome intermittent explosive disorder it is good for him.

One may wish him to work for reform or revision of dangerous passages in the Koran instigating Muslims for Jihad war, murder, bombing and assassination. There are hundreds of passages in the Koran that he may be familiar with:
Koran 8:12 : "I shall terrorize the infidels. So would their bodies and incapacititate them. Because they oppose Allah and His apostle"
Koran 8:57 "If you gain mastery over them to battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so they would learn a lesson and be warned."
Koran 8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land"
Koran 33:26 "Allah made the infidels leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And Allah made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth".

If Agha is sincere, genuine and a real humanist, he should work for the elimination of these destructive verses from the Koran. can he do it? I doubt. Do Muslims really care about Bhagavat Gita, pluralism, secularism and tolerance? Like in Gujarat, when Muslims are faced with tough choices desperation bubbling erupts. Agha's latest outburst as a point man for Jihadis is a futile attempt to make the gullible public submissive. As a member of the Islamic psychological warfare shock troops, he is quoting Gita for mental misdirection and for numbing effect. As a closed and stagnated political dogma, Islam will not allow Muslims including Agha to learn progressive ideas.

Quote: And they consider Islam as a perfect and perfected religion.
COMMENT: Islam, perfect religion.......my foot. This is phoney-baloney.
In one of the Hadiths, prophet Hazrat Mohammad is reported, as saying:
" I have been created from the Divine Light. "
This again is phoney-baloney.
Putting faith in this kind of phoney-baloney or in Mafia-Don Hazrat Mohammad, Moslems cannot get out of the darkness of their soul. Madness is in abundance in Islam, serenity is in short supply.
Surinder Paul Attri

13 yr old Hindu girl speaks out against Anti-India forces

2009-09-01T22:25:00.000-07:00

1. 13 yr old Hindu girl speaks out against Anti-India forces
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ8QSVvu2bw&feature=related

2. My Take:
I have listened to this year old girl on the Internet.

3. This 13-year old girl is Un-Usually Bright. In fact, she is a Dynamite. She is more than capable of understanding the Tactical & Strategic problems of the HIndu.

4. She appears to me to be, the " Joan De Arc " of Hinduism.

5. Question: Does anybody know or knows how to find out:

a. Her Name
b. Her Phone Number
c. Her Mailing Address
d. Other reference information about her

6. Thanks.

Surinder Paul Attri

Seeds of Pakistan

2009-08-22T23:21:00.000-07:00

Subj: Seeds of Pakistan
Pakistan's Jihadi Politics rooted in India Partition
http://worldmonitor.wordpress.com/
S. Dutta - Ventura County Star

As Pakistan marks the 62nd anniversary of its founding this month, it remains mired in existential conflicts.

Outsiders are often perplexed at how the Pakistan government can engage in state-sponsored terrorism and harboring of jihadi militants while claiming partnership with America in the fight against terrorism.

For those familiar with colonial history of British India, Pakistan’s emergence as a dangerous and destabilizing force was Pakistan’s destiny.

The seeds were sown in 1940 by those who exploited Islam to gain political power and eventually secured Pakistan from the British Empire in 1947.

Formation of Pakistan was neither assured nor certain. Mohammad Ali Jinnah, the champion of Pakistan, could hardly be called a Muslim in any sense. Famous for his expensively tailored Savile Row suits, educated at Lincoln Inn, he was a highly successful and extremely wealthy lawyer. He ate pork, drank alcohol and could barely speak Urdu, the language of pride for Indian Muslims.

Similarly, Muslim League’s creators were an amalgamation of royalists and feudal landlords who were loyal to the British Empire and never commanded ordinary Muslims’ attention and support. Under their stewardship, Pakistan was a mere fantasy. In fact, 10 years before Partition of India and the departure of the British, Muslim League and Jinnah were on the verge of political extinction.

In 1937, the Muslim League had failed miserably in pre-colonial Indian provincial elections. The results demonstrated that the party claiming to represent Muslims did not speak for Muslims — it received 4.8 percent of the Muslim vote even with separate electorates for Muslims and Hindus instituted by British colonialists.
The Nationalist Congress party, dominated by Hindus but still largely secular in nature, swept the elections. Jinnah, the supreme leader of Muslim League, who had started as a rising star in Congress in 1905 with impeccable secular credentials, became marginalized.

For political survival, Jinnah began blatant use of religion to gain support of Muslim masses with highly incendiary slogans, frightening the masses that Hindus were going to destroy the Muslims after the British left India.
Jinnah propounded his deceitful theory of Hindus and Muslims being “two separate nations” that could not live together and asked for creation of Pakistan, a land for Muslims, by division of India.

Rift in divided Indian society

His party’s incendiary slogan of “Islam in danger” created a tremendous rift in divided Indian society; cities and towns burned with communal violence.

The violence was instigated by Muslim League with tacit support of its national leaders through their paramilitary League National Guard goons and resulted in massive Hindu retaliation.

Thousands were butchered and tens of thousands made homeless. Once unleashed, the bloody monster of religious hatred was on its unimpeded march.
Jinnah’s chauvinistic propaganda and contrived ethnic conflict so effectively mobilized the Muslim population that, in a short period of seven years, the Muslim League went from winning less than 5 percent to more than 75 percent of the Muslim vote in provincial elections of 1945.

It took only two more years for the country to be divided on the basis of religious hatred and massive violence.

Jinnah’s pathological politics resulted in a horrendous bloodbath. The Partition resulted in one of the most brutal and bloody forced migrations in history, in which Sikhs and Hindus were chased from newly created Pakistan and Muslims from India.

The ensuing violence resulted in the massacre of some 2 million Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs and expulsion of approximately 17 million people from their homes.
The Machiavellian policies of Pakistan are the legacy of the holocaust accompanying the Partition.
We are still reaping the bitter fruit of poisonous seeds Jinnah and the Muslim League planted in 1940s.
At the dawn of the 21st century, the world stands on the brink due to two nuclear powers perpetually in conflict.

There have been four major wars between India and Pakistan and the two nations have come perilously close to nuclear war after Pakistani-sponsored terrorists attacked the Indian parliament in 2001.

Nascent Pakistan was insecure and fearful of its larger neighbor India and immediately adopted three basic constructs as her reason for existence: India as the enemy, Partition as unfinished business, and search for allies.This misdirected focus resulted in authoritarian, centralized rule, lack of rapprochement with India and a perpetual state of militarization and war.

Macchiavellian deals

The never-ending search for allies against India resulted in Pakistani dictators and autocratic leaders making Machiavellian deals that further radicalized religious fanatics and later resulted in unholy alliances with al-Qaida and the Taliban.

Since Pakistan felt it had been shortchanged in Partition (deprived of Kashmir, a state with a Muslim majority), and it was militarily weak, it engaged in a war of attrition in Kashmir by supporting jihadi terrorists through Pakistan military. The shacklehold of Pakistan military on domestic and foreign policy ensured that peace would remain elusive between India and Pakistan.

Additionally, Pakistan sought to destabilize and control Afghanistan utilizing militant Islamists, accepted money from the fundamentalist Saudi Arabia regime for militant religious schools, developed nuclear weapons to counter Indian military superiority and sold her services to the larger military powers with the eventual goal of countering and destabilizing India.

While Pakistan is being riven by the Taliban and Islamic militants, the ruling elite still consider India as her primary enemy!

Fundamentalists in the Pakistani military created the Taliban, supported and harbored al-Qaida, and possibly made nuclear weapon technology deals with North Korea.

Pakistani political vision has been frozen in 1947 and remains stunted due to Pakistan’s fixation over Kashmir.

As a result, 62 years after her independence, Pakistan stands as a state perpetually at war with herself and with her own citizens.

Machiavellian policies that used Islamic militants in Afghanistan and Kashmir have begun their blowback as terrorists blow people up in Lahore and Islamabad, jihadis train killers to launch attacks in Mumbai and elsewhere, and the Taliban expands its control and continues its march within Pakistan.
Besides fighting the Taliban in Swat, the Pakistan military battles nationalists and separatists in Balochistan and the Northwestern Province. Pakistan continues to struggle to imagine itself as a nation, to find a coherent self.

Bad situation

As Pakistan celebrated her independence Aug. 14, it is instructional to focus on U.S. soldiers fighting the Pakistani-trained and sheltered Taliban in Afghanistan.

While our military bombs militants in western Pakistan and we line the pockets of the Pakistani establishment in return, the weak government of President Asif Ali Zardari vacillates between serving its U.S. financers and homegrown jihadi ideologues obsessed with Kashmir and control of Afghanistan.

Nothing good can come of this.

Pakistan may be hopelessly corrupt, lawless, drug-ridden and inherently unstable, but it is here to stay. Despite being brainwashed by their rulers, Pakistani people have time and again rejected Islamic fundamentalists and remain remarkably open and tolerant.

It is time for their leaders to step out of their insecure cocoons and focus on development of Pakistan. If the rulers of Pakistan will not detach themselves from their poisonous origin, we can expect continual wars by proxies, jihadi politics and perpetual suffering in south Asia for years to come.

— S. Dutta, Ph.D., lives in Agoura.
Courtesy: VenturaCountyStar

2. My Take:
Quote: Formation of Pakistan was neither assured nor certain. Mohammad Ali Jinnah, the champion of Pakistan, could hardly be called a Muslim in any sense. Famous for his expensively tailored Savile Row suits, educated at Lincoln Inn, he was a highly successful and extremely wealthy lawyer. He ate pork, drank alcohol and could barely speak Urdu, the language of pride for Indian Muslims.

COMMENT: Yes, Jinnah was a Jack-Moslem by standards of Mullahs & Maulvies. But he was no dummy. He was a smart cat and Dr.Sir Mohammad Iqbal knew that. Dr.Iqbal solicited Jinnah to return to India ( from London ), as without him, Pakistan has no chance of coming into being. Jinnah returned to India. Rest is history..

3. Quote:
The seeds ( of Pakistan ) were sown in 1940 by those who exploited Islam to gain political power and eventually secured Pakistan from the British Empire in 1947.

COMMENT: According to Jinnah: Pakistan was born on the day, when the first Hindu was converted to Islam.

Surinder Paul Attri

Shah Rukh Khan

2009-08-20T01:17:00.000-07:00

Subj: Shah Rukh Khan
1. Chaudhari Sahib:
Regarding
Shah Rukh Khan's ( SRK ) problems at New York:airpot:

SRK ought to face the facts as they are, and not hit out at adventitious factors. US Immigration Officials and Airport employees, have no reason to either harass or hound SRK. There were at least six other persons in the same room, waiting check-up procedures. Every one of them has to wait his turn. Why should SRK be put ahead of anybody ? Who does SRK think he is, to be put ahead of anybody ? In the US airports, everybody is equal, he is in the same pot, and has to wait his check-out turn, That is about the size of it.

2. Airport employees did not mis-treat SRK. They only followed SOPs ( standard operation procedures ), designed for public protection.

SRK brought problems on himself, by his poor answers to simple questions. His Karma and the Karma of his Evil Islam caught up with him.

Laws of Karma tell us that, results & consequences follow, the actions done previously. No body can defy the laws of Karma.

3. Airport procedures have been refined repeatedly. Airport computers & Airport employees have been programmed & trained to look for suspicious persons & suspicious, slippery & ambiguous activities in the airport area. Of course the name Khan would alert airport computers immedietly
( there are too many Khans out there, whose claim to fame is, terrorism & suicide bombings ).

4. To an average Yank, the name Khan does not mean much, except the name Khan phonetically sounds like the name Con. To a Yank, Khan-Man sounds like Con-Man. He would sense potential trouble, and the Yank would say to himself : Watch out for this Bullet-Head.

Surinder Paul Attri.

Jesus: Will He Ever Return?

2009-08-15T23:09:00.000-07:00

1. Jesus: Will He Ever Return?
My Take:
Jesus did not level with his followers. Regardless of what the Bible says or does not say, Jesus is Not returning. In fact, Jesus CANNOT return any more than Harry Houdini can. Christian Priests & Preachers try to impose Bible on the world, as a mass of truth & as the word of God. But before any thing can be admitted as proved by the Bible, the Bible itself must be proved to be true. But Bible itself has Not been proved to be true,it does not have any authority, and cannot be admitted as proof of anything. Bible Is A Book Of Fiction. Besides, there is plenty of wickedness in this PRETENDED word of God.

2. Bible is a book of lies, wickedness, and blasphemy. Can there ever be greater blasphemy than, to ascribe ( done by the Bible ) the wickedness of man, to the orders of Almighty ? Ten centuries of Biblical control of Europe, from the fifith to the fifteenth century, are called the DARKEST AGE, in the history of Europe.

3. Fictional sermons, based on the Bible, given by Christian Priests, to captive Christian audiences, is what goes on in the churches. But this fiction cannot be accepted or approved by anybody who is in his right mind.

Surinder Paul Attri

Response to message of Poonam Abbi

2009-08-14T17:22:00.000-07:00

Subj: Response to message of Poonam Abbi
1. Poonam Abbi Jee: Thanks for your message to me.

Sure, there are some nice Moslems out there ( there are some nice Christians there too ), but their religons of Islam & Christianity, are a piece of Sh**.

2. Moslems & Christians gauge religion as a competitive business ( this attitude is sadly lacking in Hinduism ), They torture, rape, and loot Non-Moslem & Non-Christian, to snuff out hateful Kafirs. This is their method of choice, they regard it as fair game. But this approach is available to Hindus also. By not being competitive, Hindus are Not doing a favor to anybody, neither to Moslems, nor to Christians, nor to even Hindus.

3. By shrivelling from competition, and regarding it as un-interesting, or laborious, we are allowing the Moslems & Christians to multiply, and causing Hinduism to shrink in numbers. If it is not our own shortcoming, then whose is it ?

4. Our Rotten Hindu Leadership & 90 % of our HIndu Holy Men ( HHMs), have neither the understanding nor the talent to cope with, the competitive religious environment of today. And our own characteristics of Hindu Selfishness & Defensiveness, does not go to bat for Hinduism either.

Surinder Paul Attri

Response to message of Shri Chaudhari Jee

2009-08-14T00:51:00.000-07:00

Subj: Response to message of Shri Chaudhari Jee
1. Attriji,

kiya kamaal kar diya hai aapne!

I admire your tribute to Hinduism: Tolerant Soul tolerates, treats and nurtures intolerant, prejudiced, hatemonger type of characters
within its own habitat and anywhere in the world.

No where else this can be seen to such an extent.

Don't you think we should assess this type of approach afresh now?

Regards

BK Chaudhari

2. My Take: Chaudhari Sahib: Thanks for your tribute.
Quote: kiya kamaal kar diya hai aapne!
COMMENT: Oh really ? But thanks. It makes me feel like a Field-Marshal.

3. Quote: Tolerant Soul tolerates, treats and nurtures intolerant, prejudiced, hatemonger type of characters
within its own habitat and anywhere in the world.
COMMENT: Our Shastras Clearly tell us that it is wicked to commit Evil, but it is absolutely wretched & awful to tolerate Evil.
Hindu is smart & does understand this difference, but does not want to pay the price of defending Dharma. He wants someone else to pay this price.
This does not mean that Hindu is some kind of fiend. Hindu is no such thing. Hindu's utter selfishness did not fall from the sky. Most of Hindu's complexes were developed between the years 1000 A.D. & 1500 A.D. and it is related to his sense of survival.

Consequently, Hindu's attitude is Defensive & his interest are Intensely-Directed INWARD. Hindu cannot pull himself out of his complexes, entirely through his own efforts.

4. What about Hindu Leadership ?
Our Hindu Leadership during the last 1200 years has been totally-Rotten. It is still totally Rotten. It does not have what it takes to do the job of Hinduism Defense.

5. What about our Hindu Holy Men ( HHM's ) ?
Ninety percent of our HHM's are Totally-Rotten. The Tommy-Rot that comes out of their mouths is idiotic and sinks the ship of Hinduism.They:
" Don't Know Which End Is Up."

6. Quote: Don't you think we should assess this type of approach afresh now?

COMMENT: Absolutely yes.
Chaudhari Sahib: We Hindus have been on the WRONG track for the last 1200 years. It is totally foolish to continue doing the same thing, and expecting different results. Different & Un-Conventional techniques are needed.

Having said that, I hasten to assure you that, Hindu's problems are Entirely-Solvable.
For reasons that are obvious, I cannot put my technique on the Internet, where it is visible to both friend & foe alike.

7. Religious business is Extremely-Competitive, and the present environment is DOGGY-DOG ( DOG-EAT-DOG ). You have to be careful & cautious. There are too many people out there, who do not wish us Hindus well, and they are extremely power-hungry.

Surinder Paul Attri

10,000 Africans embrace Hindu Dharma in Ghana (Africa)

2009-08-13T18:36:00.000-07:00

Subj: Re: [aryayouthgroup] 10,000 Africans embrace Hindu Dharma in Ghana (Africa)

1. This is very good news, Universal faith is having its impact, slowely but surely.

May the Great Bhagwan bless and continue to influence the Vedic (Hindu) faith..Kurwanto Vishwa Arayam....Let us enoble the world.

Pranam

2. My Take:

Islam is Not as un-conquerable as it is Cracked up to be ( Christianity is Not either ). In Africa, six million Moslems convert to Christianity Each year. Some of these Neophyte-Converts, can be moved onward into Hinduism.

3. If it has to be a Two-Step process, then let it be.

Surinder Paul Attri

Yeshu Ratnam

2009-08-12T22:27:00.000-07:00

Subj: Yeshu Ratnam
1.

PEOPLE LIKE YESHU, KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HINDU AND HINDU CULTURE, YET THEY POUR POISON WITH THEIR PREJUDICE MIND, AGAINST HINDUS. !!

YOU ARE RIGHT, DR. BABU JI, PEOPLE LIKE HIM LIVE ON BORROWED BREAD, BORROWED CULTURED, BORROWED BRAINS, AND BORROWED MENTALITY.!!

THE GARBAGE COLLECTORS LIKE YESHU, ENJOY THE STINK OF THEIR GARBAGE, AND HE SHOULD KEEP HIS GARBAGE WITH HIM, THE HINDU DOES NOT NEED HIS GARBAGE, AND NONSENSE. !

HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THAT, IT IS THE NOBLE, TOLERANT SOUL OF GREAT HINDU, THAT TOLERATES, TREATS, AND NURTURES, INTOLERANT, PREJUDICE, HATEMONGER, CHARACTERS LIKE HIM, IN INDIA. !!

GOD BLESS BHARAT. Lal
2. My Take:
Unrefined, Uncultured, Biased, and Bogoted, wacky nuts like Yeshu Ratnam. pick on Hinduism as infintum, but completely ignore the dark side of their Barbaric Christianity.
3. Unbalanced & Cracked nuts like Yeshu Ratnam, remain totally silent about the numerous forms of violence, slaughter, and torture perpetrated for centuries, in the name of Christianity. But their bigotry & narrow-mindedness comes through loud & clear.
4. If Yeshu Ratnam is entirely unaware of Christianity's savage character, then he is an Ignoramus. If not, then he is very very prejudiced, and completely alienated from the truth.
5. Yeshu Ratnam would be well-advised to " keep his big mouth shut. "

Surinder Paul Attri

Sulla's honor-killing

2009-08-10T00:21:00.000-07:00

Subj: Sulla's honor-killing
1. No 'honour' in killings
http://www.torontosun.com/news/columnists/peter_worthington/2009/08/05/10363756-sun.html
... and it's a bizarre way to describe a barbaric practice aimed at women
By PETER WORTHINGTON
Why do they call it "honour killing"? It's anything but honourable.
Then again, it's like dictatorial tyrannies calling themselves "peoples' democracies" when they're neither for the people nor democratic.
The possible honour killings of four women found dead in a car in the Rideau Canal near Kingston would be only the latest manifestation of this obscenity.
The alleged perpetrators have been charged (including the father, mother and the girls' brother), and if found guilty will be due for a long stay in Canada ... in prison. Some "honour"!
So-called "honour killings" are a world-wide phenomenon, if not epidemic, peculiar mainly to the Mideast and Asia, where a family member (usually female) has supposedly brought dishonour to the family or clan that can only be expunged by the person's death.
Human rights and women's groups point out there's nothing in the Qur'an that dictates the murder of women for transgressions -- usually sexual, but not necessarily.
Often, under-age boys in the offended family are assigned to kill the female offender because as minors they will be treated more leniently.
Too often there's no penalty for the murderer(s). In some countries (Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq) men who "honour" kill their wives (or daughters or sisters) for adultery, may be "exempt" from penalty.
Thousands of women are killed every year for reasons ranging from refusal to wear head coverings, to having a love poem written in their name, to having arguments over clothes.
There have been bizarre cases where a husband dreamed his wife was unfaithful, and so was thought justified in killing her. A girl in Turkey had her throat cut when her name was mentioned in a love poem on the radio.
National Geographic recalls that a mentally retarded girl in Pakistan who was raped, was subsequently executed because she supposedly brought shame to the tribe. A conservative estimate has three women per day subjected to honour killings in Pakistan.
A characteristic of honour killings is that the accused has no right of defence. There is no need to prove guilt -- the accusation alone is enough to bring dishonour that can only be removed by execution.
DOWRIES INSUFFICIENT
According to UNICEF, some 5,000 brides in India are killed annually because their dowries are too small. In Latin America, when women are murdered in "crimes of passion," it often results in a lesser penalty for their killers compared to other murders.
The UN's Human Rights Commission has recorded "honour killings" in Britain, Canada, the U.S., throughout Europe, Bangladesh, Ecuador, Brazil, Egypt, Italy, Morocco, Sweden, Turkey, Uganda.
In some countries, honour killing is a cultural institution -- Iran, Afghanistan, parts of Pakistan (where 1,000 women a year are victims).
It's difficult to determine the number of honour killings, since they can be disguised and the community often closes ranks. In India, young women who have supposedly dishonoured their family have been set on fire.
In theory, honour killings also apply to men, but are much more rare. In sexual offences, women are usually blamed for tempting men, or provoking their illicit sexual behaviour.
Strangely, perhaps, it is often women themselves who justify honour killings.
Similarly, some defend the burka or hijab as a matter of choice, and not as a symbol of subjection, subservience or male dominance.
If the murders of the four women in the submerged car in the Rideau Canal, which shocked the nation, were indeed honour killings, they are neither unique nor unusual among those familiar with the despicable practice, which shows few signs of being curtailed
2. My Take:
Rather than saving Sulla's face, honor-killing shames ( blackens ) his face. So called honor-killing is Sulla's Jehad against his relatives, for the worship & grandeur of his Uncivilized Allah. This murderous-measure is Dishonorable.in totu. To call it honor-killing, is travesty of truth. Sulla cannot hide behind sham & synthetic explanations.
Behold: Sulla's arse is showing.
Surinder Paul Attri

If you convert, you die

2009-08-04T00:53:00.001-07:00

Subj: If you convert, you die
this is no cuse for celebration. she left one irrational abrahamic religion and converted to another one. sadly, christiantiy is a religion of feminism intertwined with the irrational ideology of hell fire and damnation for ALL non-christians. it's liberatin to a degree when compared to islam .... but it's skitsophrenic and it's an utterly vile and barbaric religion in and of itself and is NOT an improvement. this woman is a bafoon. i'd have more respect for her if she would've announced that she was an athiest or a budhist or something but NOT a christian. yuk!
My Take:
Agreed.
This assessment is valid because, she is jumping out of frying pan, but getting into fire.

She is getting out of Christianity, which is the foulest crime & deepest shame of Western civilization. But she is not getting into anything better. All Abramaic religions are basically intolerant, and their belief systems are built upon sewer.

Surinder Paul Attri

If You Convert You Die

2009-08-04T00:08:00.000-07:00

Subj: If You Convert You Die
1. If You Convert You Die
Tuesday, 04 August 2009 03:16 Nonie Darwish
How Islamic vigilante justice, which enjoys almost complete impunity in Muslim countries, keeps dissidents and apostates of Islam in submission, which, although help keep the integrity of Islam intact, but creates chaotic society of fear, terror and violence in the Islamic world. Courageous Egyptian lawyer and women’s rights activist Nagla Al Imam's declaration of apostasy is a perfect case in point and what it portends to the West amidst it growing Muslim population...
2. My Take:
Quote: How Islamic vigilante justice, which enjoys almost complete impunity in Muslim countries, keeps dissidents and apostates of Islam in submission, which, although help keep the integrity of Islam intact, but creates chaotic society of fear, terror and violence in the Islamic world.
COMMENT: What Integrity does Islam have, to keep or stack ?
Islamic Vigilante Justice only promotes Islam's duplicity, double-talk, faultiness, haughty & high-handed savageness. Added contribution of this Islamic Justice, is generation of terror, fear, horror, chaos & confusion, inside Islamic societies.
Surinder Paul Attri