tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post4622568800204236385..comments2008-11-22T15:53:09.381-05:00Comments on Informed Comment: Zawahiri: Obama is the anti-Malcolm XJuan Colehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05794922740548563607jricole@gmail.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-62301514505474717882008-11-22T07:05:00.000-05:002008-11-22T07:05:00.000-05:00Juan Cole says "Al-Zawahiri, ..., is stuck in a pa...Juan Cole says "Al-Zawahiri, ..., is stuck in a paradigm, of a worldwide revolution of people of color against the white global ruling class." Yet Juan was the one who pointed out that al-Zawahiri call Obama "a slave" not a negro. Cole also says "radical Sunni fundamentalism was never a majority tendency among Iraqi Sunnis, and appears to be spiralling down into insignificance." But a power change in favor of a Shiite government will most likely not lead to Sunni complacence. <BR/> al-Zawahiri and al-Qaeda have suffered no lose in Iraq. If Sunni's take money from the US instead of fighting it does nothing toward providing an Iraqi government in Baghdad. What will happen when the checks stop? For that matter the current people in power will be no ones choice except for perhaps the Iranians once the US leaves.sae44444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-7070050472833437242008-11-22T02:06:00.000-05:002008-11-22T02:06:00.000-05:00Barack Obama's father had abandoned Islam and was ...Barack Obama's father had abandoned Islam and was an avowed atheist by the time he met his mother, so it is a bit difficult to think that Barack Obama ever had or felt any connection at all to Islam.Shirinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17017512862536434261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-39563917168064715282008-11-22T02:04:00.000-05:002008-11-22T02:04:00.000-05:00Juan, you were the one who pointed out that al-Zaw...Juan, you were the one who pointed out that al-Zawahiri called Obama a slave not a negro. The Sunni's weren't defeated but bought off. They will be back when the checks stop.sae44444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-72089915970172648972008-11-21T01:03:00.000-05:002008-11-21T01:03:00.000-05:00Does Bin Laden's silence on Obama imply that he is...Does Bin Laden's silence on Obama imply that he is dead?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-75117854821695299942008-11-20T16:21:00.000-05:002008-11-20T16:21:00.000-05:00Juan Cole asks, "Are Egyptians and Jordanians self...Juan Cole asks, "Are Egyptians and Jordanians self-hating Muslims" for accepting peace with Israel? To Zawahiri and his ilk, the answer is an certain 'yes.' This is the legacy of Sayyed Qutb's willingness to declare the Muslim world to have returned to the ignorance of Islam (jahiliyya), making even ostensible Muslims into kafir (deniers of God). The punishment for such denial is death. It this power to declare who is and is not a 'true' Muslim which Qutb then and Bin Laden and Zawahiri today arrogate to themselves and which makes them singularly dangerous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-76042759136294519482008-11-20T13:07:00.000-05:002008-11-20T13:07:00.000-05:00ref : “a paradigm... of a worldwide revolution of ...<I>ref</I> <B>: “</B>a paradigm... of a worldwide revolution of people of color against the white, global ruling class<B>”</B><BR/><BR/>Interesting for us to pause for a moment and consider that this *IS* the answer to the question, "What is <I>al-Qaeda</I><B>?</B>"<BR/><BR/><I>et Voilà<B>!</B></I> There it is, that most important realisation being that <I>al-Qaeda</I> = The Enemy is not a <I>who</I>, but a <I>what</I> <B>: <I>l'idée c'est tout</I></B>. In this regard I agree with the Professor that Messrs. Bush and Cheney and all their AngloAmerican hardware was, in retrospect if anything a destructiveness self-inflicting; and this brutal old warmaking was not only incapable, but also inappropriate as a means to defeat that which really is our enemy, "<I>al-Qaeda</I>".<BR/><BR/>otoh, While all seemed dismal, and all their Armed Forces were rendered impotent, isolated and in wholly defensive posture, incompetent even as neo-colonial <I>occupiers</I> ~ The American people have, imho, by virtue of their uncorrupted vote, in one fell swoop defeated "<I>al-Qaeda</I>" <B>:</B> rendering <I>it</I> now impotent, isolated, and in a wholly defensive posture.<BR/><BR/>not only "<B>The Enemy</B>" but also "<B>Victory</B>"... has now / at last been <I>defined</I><B>.</B><BR/><BR/>imho, What Happens Next is not the question, "How do we <I>achieve</I> 'victory'<B>?</B>" Rather, imho it is important for the American people, and their leaders to ask<B>: </B>"How do we <I>sustain</I> this 'victory', apparent<B>?</B>"MonsieurGonzohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08248219115203785252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-43449274645481920652008-11-20T12:48:00.000-05:002008-11-20T12:48:00.000-05:00But Egypt and Jordan are majority-Muslim and they ...<I>But Egypt and Jordan are majority-Muslim and they have peace treaties with Israel; and 65 percent of American Muslims believe that a peace settlement can be reached with Israel that is also fair to the Palestinians. So the issue cannot be one of simply enmity toward Islam (are Egyptians and Jordanians self-hating Muslims?)</I><BR/><BR/>Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel, but the people of both countries are much more hostile than the pro-Western dictators.<BR/><BR/>Iraq is democratic enough that recognition of Israel is completely off the table. Never even mentioned despite the $10 billion a month the US is paying to protect the Maliki government.<BR/><BR/>Maliki refused to speak ill of Hezbollah during the Lebanon war in front of the US congress while asking for money and arms from the US.<BR/><BR/>A democratic Egypt or Jordan would be at the very least as hostile towards Israel is Iraq, in Jordan's case much much more hostile because of Jordan's large Palestinian population.<BR/><BR/>Western commentators really do a poor job wrapping their minds around the fact that Israel is the bad guy to most people in the Middle East, which is demonstrated in poll after poll.Arnold Evanshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11445744338502151561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-28516268383041708652008-11-20T11:59:00.000-05:002008-11-20T11:59:00.000-05:00And so we can finally start engaging in the war ag...And so we can finally start engaging in the war against al-Qaeda and hitting them where it hurts!Chris Dornannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-56954510515876879762008-11-20T11:15:00.000-05:002008-11-20T11:15:00.000-05:00Excellent commentary (especially about the relatio...Excellent commentary (especially about the relationship between Muslims and Jews); thanks for posting.<BR/><I>"Al-Zawahiri, formed intellectually in the late 1960s, is stuck in a paradigm, of a worldwide revolution of people of color against the white global ruling class..."</I> The same can be said about Rev. Jeremiah Wright!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-2792836048447583042008-11-20T09:25:00.000-05:002008-11-20T09:25:00.000-05:00It's interesting, I think, that America's leader w...It's interesting, I think, that America's leader went from a "crusader" aka Bush the "decider," to a "betrayer" of the Muslim world in their eyes. What are the ideological implications of that?Kaitlinhttp://insideislam.wisc.edunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-55488929584373451222008-11-20T08:22:00.000-05:002008-11-20T08:22:00.000-05:00Juan, sorry, but I forgot to ask you to compare th...Juan, sorry, but I forgot to ask you to compare the video footage. Malcolm X praying at a mosque and Obama wearing a yarmulke. As I said, this is about the faith of some. And so, again, to the extent that Obama adopted Christianity in lieu of his father's Islam, he's abeed al-beit, unlike the "honorable" Mr. Malcolm X, who rejected Christianity in favor of Islam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-16788783813064917022008-11-20T08:10:00.000-05:002008-11-20T08:10:00.000-05:00Juan, Obama is abeed al-beit simply and only becau...Juan, Obama is abeed al-beit simply and only because he surrendered the Muslim faith of his father for the Christianity of his white slavemaster. This isn't about politics and race, but faith. Our man Ayman doesn't care about race relations in America or the world, he cares about Islam. And President of the US or not, it is precisely the adoption of the Christian faith that keeps Obama enslaved and makes him abeed al-beit. In contrast, Malcom X is "honorable" because he rejected Christianity in favor of Islam. <BR/><BR/>That's Ayman's thought process here. And it's precisely why Obama is the anti-Malcolm X in our man Ayman's eyes. The speech was to remind the Muslim world that Obama is still the man who rejected his father's Islam in favor of Christianity [so don't get your hopes up, Muslim world]. Why in the heck do you think the faith of Obama and his father even came up? <BR/><BR/>Please, Juan, do a better job of understanding Ayman, I mean, he is the opposition, yes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-25131735476026318112008-11-20T07:06:00.000-05:002008-11-20T07:06:00.000-05:00Until I read your post, I had no idea of the Malco...Until I read your post, I had no idea of the Malcom X connection with the concept of "house slave." The one point that I would like to put on the table relates to the political landscape in Jordan and Egypt. Although both governments have signed peace treaties with Israel, their peoples are not represented by these governments. In fact, these two governments are evolved (big police and intelligence) dictatorships. Until and when free political discourse is allowed to happen with total acceptance and respect for the outcome(even when one does not like it as in the victory of Hamas in Gaza) then one may easy be the victim of some past paradigm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-36544115051885714742008-11-20T06:59:00.000-05:002008-11-20T06:59:00.000-05:00FOX News will fully cover anything that will creat...FOX News will fully cover anything that will create world-wide fear of Muslims. After all, one of their goals is to spread the war to Iran. The public has to be more frightened and disgusted for this to happen. Thus, FOX News spends hours a day spoon feeding the world propaganda as to why the war against any and all Muslim states must spread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3463907.post-16164620376558196192008-11-20T03:42:00.000-05:002008-11-20T03:42:00.000-05:00Obama got elected by making it clear that he was a...Obama got elected by making it clear that he was as bloodthirsty and ready to slaughter brown people as any white person that wanted the job, especially in Afghanistan and Pakistan.<BR/><BR/>He is in fact exploiting the division between the privileged and the underclass in oppressed communities, specifically the black community, in service to the people that still run the United States and the world. It has not been unusual in American history for American blacks to be led by people who represented black people to the white establishment by telling that establishment what it wanted to hear and guiding the blacks into submission to its exploitation. Jews in World War 2 experienced the same in the leaders of the Judenraten.<BR/><BR/>Malcolm X would have instantly recognized that phenomenon here. Black people will be sent to kill and die in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and black people, along with the rest of the not-rich in the US, will continue to be ripped off at home to finance the American imperial project that Obama wholeheartedly supports - unless of course Obama does not mean a word he's been saying all this time. Can we assume that that is the case?.<BR/><BR/>There are some details wrong in Zawahiri's analysis, but there is little doubt how Malcolm X would analyze Obama's plans and what they will do to the black and brown people of the earth so that Obama can be the most powerful man in the world.Peter Attwoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01584071300152377363noreply@blogger.com