<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540</id><updated>2009-11-24T19:05:36.829-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Echinoblog</title><subtitle type='html'>Echinodermata! Starfish! Sea Urchins! Sea Cucumbers! Stone Lillies! Feather Stars! Blastozoans! Sea Daisies!
Marine invertebrates found throughout the world's oceans with a rich and ancient fossil legacy. Their biology and evolution includes a wide range of crazy and wonderful things. Let me share those things with YOU!</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>195</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-1403328878924955573</id><published>2009-11-24T11:35:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-24T11:59:07.267-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Enypniastes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Novodinia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deep-sea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='census of marine life'/><title type='text'>Video &amp; Images from the Census of Marine Life Big Wrap Up!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sww3UimnNAI/AAAAAAAAD8Y/LsDHnk5BwHg/s1600/REU204_marine.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 267px; height: 392px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sww3UimnNAI/AAAAAAAAD8Y/LsDHnk5BwHg/s320/REU204_marine.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5407758078590792706" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;So, the big &lt;a href="http://www.coml.org/"&gt;Census of Marine Life&lt;/a&gt;  is racing towards &lt;a href="http://www.coml.org/about"&gt;its final year in 2010&lt;/a&gt; and a big end-of the year press release has hit the media, including the video below!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If ya' skip over all of the jellies and other non-echinoderm (but still pretty cool) animals, towards the end is a GREAT video of the swimming sea cucumber &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Enypniastes&lt;/span&gt; from the Gulf of Mexico!! (shown above):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="340" width="560"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/siFRmNkyJn8&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/siFRmNkyJn8&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="340" width="560"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;There's been a flurry of "best of" type photos, including this cool shot of a bunch of brisingids (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Novodinia &lt;/span&gt;spp.) and a goniasterid (looks like &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Evoplosoma&lt;/span&gt;) perched on a bunch of deep-sea corals in and around New Zealand (&gt;1000 m based on the original captions).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sww2XX2fgsI/AAAAAAAAD8Q/xbLS2zoZe-Y/s1600/_46784553_coral-hi.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 214px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sww2XX2fgsI/AAAAAAAAD8Q/xbLS2zoZe-Y/s320/_46784553_coral-hi.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5407757027732587202" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Its a light Echinoblog week but here in the US, its Thanksgiving week, and everything is just a little bit slower!  Especially with everything getting colder and darker!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There will continue to be sporadic, light posts this week..with next week back to "normal"...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enjoy!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-1403328878924955573?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/1403328878924955573/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=1403328878924955573' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/1403328878924955573'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/1403328878924955573'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/video-images-from-census-of-marine-life.html' title='Video &amp; Images from the Census of Marine Life Big Wrap Up!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sww3UimnNAI/AAAAAAAAD8Y/LsDHnk5BwHg/s72-c/REU204_marine.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-3823788563896794214</id><published>2009-11-23T13:02:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-23T13:07:28.832-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ceramaster'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='holidays'/><title type='text'>Echinoblog Holiday Life Lesson # 34</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" &gt;Do NOT mix up your holiday shortbread with cookie-shaped starfish!! &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;(&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ceramaster granularis&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Swr46-D4d2I/AAAAAAAAD6c/xW5iuqxgUuU/s1600/DSCN1749.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 220px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Swr46-D4d2I/AAAAAAAAD6c/xW5iuqxgUuU/s320/DSCN1749.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5407407994587084642" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(no actual starfish specimens were harmed in the production of this blog)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-3823788563896794214?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/3823788563896794214/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=3823788563896794214' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/3823788563896794214'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/3823788563896794214'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/echinoblog-holiday-life-lesson-34.html' title='Echinoblog Holiday Life Lesson # 34'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Swr46-D4d2I/AAAAAAAAD6c/xW5iuqxgUuU/s72-c/DSCN1749.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-1724215794023314017</id><published>2009-11-17T00:25:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-17T21:50:52.788-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pisaster ochraceus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ochre star'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='climate change'/><title type='text'>The Pisaster Post!  Posterchild or Portent ??</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwNfIAUAD0I/AAAAAAAAD6E/3YXOFhW6x5c/s1600/pisaster-mussel.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 209px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwNfIAUAD0I/AAAAAAAAD6E/3YXOFhW6x5c/s320/pisaster-mussel.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5405268568902209346" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.marinebio.net/marinescience/03ecology/tpmid.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(from MarineBio.net!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This week, we're talking about the Pacific Northwest Intertidal!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what animal is more iconic to this area then &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Pisaster ochraceus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; (family Asteriidae)-the familiar intertidal Ochre Star found on rocky, mussel-laden substrates on from Alaska to California to Mexico. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.wallawalla.edu/academics/departments/biology/rosario/inverts/Echinodermata/Class%20Asteroidea/Pisaster_ochraceus.html"&gt;Some more basic information is here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwGVcWKhuUI/AAAAAAAAD4c/5Zt_cjtPexw/s1600/pisaster.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwGVcWKhuUI/AAAAAAAAD4c/5Zt_cjtPexw/s320/pisaster.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404765342039914818" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Interest on this species has shifted over the years and seems to change based on some of the "big science" of the day.  Yet another sign of how the humble starfish has incorporated itself into the fabric of the BIG scientific picture!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;So, today some highlights of the importance of the ever-humble intertidal &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Pisaster ochraceus &lt;/span&gt;and how its study has varied over the years....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;1. The Keystone Species Concept-Ecology's Posterchild.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Probably one of the most lasting ideas from the 1960s and 1970s was the hypothesis developed by ecologist Robert T. Paine who identified &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Pisaster ochraceus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; as a keystone species (keystone shown below in grey).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwHffdFWCQI/AAAAAAAAD4k/1bCdaBIUElM/s1600/400px-Keystone.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 250px; height: 212px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwHffdFWCQI/AAAAAAAAD4k/1bCdaBIUElM/s320/400px-Keystone.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404846759297288450" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;To quote Wikipedia:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: rgb(51, 204, 255);"&gt;A keystone species is a species that plays a critical role in maintaining the structure of an ecological community and whose impact on the community is greater than would be expected based on its relative abundance or total biomass&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;This keystone is a &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"&gt;crucial block in an arch&lt;/span&gt; that keeps it from collapsing. This is analogous for &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Pisaster&lt;/span&gt;'s influence on the mussels and the other invertebrates that exist in a rocky intertidal ecosystem.&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt; The loss of the "keystone species" results in a drastic shift among these species&lt;/span&gt;....The idea has endured and while not embraced by everyone- remains a mainstay in basic ecology books. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;More details on&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.washington.edu/research/pathbreakers/1969g.html"&gt; this notion can be found here.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pisaster&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; along with its prey, the mussel &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Mytilus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; are almost ALWAYS the featured example... the&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; POSTER child&lt;/span&gt; for the keysone concept-and  for this reason, is probably even better known then the Atlantic&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Asterias&lt;/span&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwNfIAUAD0I/AAAAAAAAD6E/3YXOFhW6x5c/s1600/pisaster-mussel.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 209px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwNfIAUAD0I/AAAAAAAAD6E/3YXOFhW6x5c/s320/pisaster-mussel.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5405268568902209346" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;This was (and continues to be) an important ecological notion during a time when the ecosystem and ecologists were in ascendance and ecology was a huge primary mainstay of biological research!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Time passes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;How has &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Pisaster&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt; changed to suit the most recent research paradigm??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;2. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Pisaster &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;as a Portent of Change?? &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 102);"&gt;The Canary in the Cage of Climate Change??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwGVcHVFimI/AAAAAAAAD4U/KxBup2IrRK8/s1600/Orange_ochre_star.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwGVcHVFimI/AAAAAAAAD4U/KxBup2IrRK8/s320/Orange_ochre_star.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404765338057673314" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Probably one of the biggest, new research directions these days? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Understanding Climate Change and in turn...increased ocean temperature, which has a HUGE impact!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It affects ocean water chemistry. Water chemistry in turn can change everything from mineral absorption, feeding behavior, physiological systems to larval settlement. These in turn can have influence on MILLIONS of tiny larvae in the water.  As well as the MANY adults those starfish grow into.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;This translates into many people interested in the effects of increased temperature and heat relative to the ability of common species to adjust. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Will &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Pisaster&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;ochraceus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; take on a new status as a possible indicator species (i.e., canary in a coal mine) for climate change effects in marine systems?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Here is a survey of three recent studies (2008-2009) that have looked at how&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; Pisaster &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;holds up!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51); font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Elevated water temperature and carbon dioxide concentration increase &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 204, 51); font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;P. ochraceus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51); font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt; growth!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwHffYo51sI/AAAAAAAAD4s/gyh79THVTqc/s1600/pisastergraph1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 226px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwHffYo51sI/AAAAAAAAD4s/gyh79THVTqc/s320/pisastergraph1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404846758104258242" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Diagrammatic graph by Echinoblog Art Department!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/106/23/9316.short"&gt;Rebecca Gooding, Christopher Harley and Emily Tang at the University of British Columbia published this study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;  wherein they found that increases in temperature from 5 to 21 degrees C led to increases in feeding AND overall growth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;This bucked the predictions that the decreased carbon dioxide resulting from increased temperature would prevent animals that use calcium carbonate to form their skeletons (such as coral)!! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;Solar radiation plays a role in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;P. ochraceus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt; habitat selection&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwHff3pmz_I/AAAAAAAAD48/a6auBgj7q4M/s1600/pisastergraph3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 277px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwHff3pmz_I/AAAAAAAAD48/a6auBgj7q4M/s320/pisastergraph3.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404846766428704754" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Diagrammatic graph by Echinoblog Art Department!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.int-res.com/abstracts/meps/v368/p177-187/"&gt;A 2008 paper by&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.int-res.com/abstracts/meps/v368/p177-187/"&gt; Jennifer Burnaford and Melissa Vasquez at the University of Puget Sound studied where &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;P. ochraceus&lt;/span&gt; occupied habitat and their tolerance of Ultraviolet radiation.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwNvFR13AEI/AAAAAAAAD6U/7DlV2mSkthk/s1600/pisasterochraceus.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 167px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwNvFR13AEI/AAAAAAAAD6U/7DlV2mSkthk/s320/pisasterochraceus.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5405286114254061634" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;The short version of this-the authors found that in artificial lab experimetns, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;P. ochraceus &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;avoided ultraviolet and "photosynethetically active radiation" and observations of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Pisaster&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; in the intertidal found that 85% of them occurred in shaded habitat underwater where they were shown to preferentially avoid direct exposure to sunlight (see diagrammatic graph above!).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-size:85%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;P. ochraceus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt; avoids extreme body temperature&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;by pumping its body full with cold sea water!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwHffv7z5ZI/AAAAAAAAD40/sb8LmkKJB20/s1600/pisastergraph2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 272px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwHffv7z5ZI/AAAAAAAAD40/sb8LmkKJB20/s320/pisastergraph2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404846764357576082" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Diagrammatic graph by Echinoblog Art Department!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/648065"&gt;Sylvain Pincebourde, Eric Sanford, and Brian Helmuth recently published this paper (2009).&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href="http://www.livescience.com/animals/091117-sea-star-water.html"&gt;A popular account can be found here &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(and for shame to Live Science for misspelling "ocher").&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their paper details how &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Pisaster ochraceus &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;was observed to increase the amount of colder water in their body cavity lowering their body temperature during the subsequent low tide in response to the temperature.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Sense it getting warm? don't like it?  Just PUMP IT UP! with cold water! (see diagram above)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;But climate change has a huge potential impact on animals that do this...to quote in their words:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: rgb(0, 204, 204); font-weight: bold;"&gt;When placed in a global change context, these results suggest that a continued increase in ocean temperature may compromise the ability of sea stars to avoid thermal stress during aerial exposure at low tide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Has the humble &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Pisaster ochraceus &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;gone from ecological poster child to a possible portent of climate change to come???       Time will tell....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-1724215794023314017?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/1724215794023314017/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=1724215794023314017' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/1724215794023314017'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/1724215794023314017'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/pisaster-post-posterchild-or-portent.html' title='The &lt;i&gt;Pisaster&lt;/i&gt; Post!  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So, I wanted to give them some bloggy love:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.calacademy.org/blogs/rockyshore/"&gt;  Click here for their blog...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwH5nFFzijI/AAAAAAAAD50/5ZWdZVl1D20/s1600/Rebecca.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwH5nFFzijI/AAAAAAAAD50/5ZWdZVl1D20/s320/Rebecca.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404875477598046770" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;For those who are not familiar, the Farallon Islands are some remote islands, about 27 miles outside the Golden Gate Bridge (outside of San Francisco Bay).. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farallon_Islands"&gt;Here is the Wikipedia page for the Farallons for more..&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwH5mnVFh8I/AAAAAAAAD5k/gcYWP9KH6R8/s1600/farallons.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwH5mnVFh8I/AAAAAAAAD5k/gcYWP9KH6R8/s320/farallons.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404875469609076674" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;But the short version is, that they are remote islands that are protected as a wildlife refuge. The Farallons are great for birdwatching and have lots of great (hopefully still...) pristine intertidal reef habitat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Plus, as a bunch of rocky islands out on the outskirts of San Francisco Bay, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;you get lots of this...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/t1yDVbRw_t4&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/t1yDVbRw_t4&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Along with many of the classic California invertebrate fauna..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Leptasterias "hexactis"&lt;/span&gt;, shown here with brooding eggs!!  This is part of the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Leptasterias&lt;/span&gt; species complex which I have written about&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/big-deal-over-little-starfish.html"&gt; here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/fun-leptasterias-facts-post.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwH5foQYw1I/AAAAAAAAD5c/g1VyysMicbY/s1600/leptabrooding.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 288px; height: 216px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwH5foQYw1I/AAAAAAAAD5c/g1VyysMicbY/s320/leptabrooding.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404875349598716754" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;and, of course, the good ol' workhorse starfish &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Pisaster ochraceus&lt;/span&gt;, which I will be writing up in the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;blog later THIS WEEK&lt;/span&gt;!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwH5fRtC0TI/AAAAAAAAD5M/uA2QbOtlyBA/s1600/pisasterochraceus.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwH5fRtC0TI/AAAAAAAAD5M/uA2QbOtlyBA/s320/pisasterochraceus.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404875343544897842" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;and just because they're so dang beautiful...these mollusks too!!!     This used to be called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Tonicella lineata&lt;/span&gt;, but I think the name's been changed recently...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwH5fIntDsI/AAAAAAAAD5E/Q2yJnNrbu5M/s1600/linedchitons.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 252px; height: 189px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwH5fIntDsI/AAAAAAAAD5E/Q2yJnNrbu5M/s320/linedchitons.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404875341106581186" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;....and back in the Paleozoic when I took Intertidal Ecology, this thing was called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Calliostoma, &lt;/span&gt;but I gots no idea what the kids are calling it these days!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwIAEWdXwbI/AAAAAAAAD58/QgCqP5nWYqc/s1600/bluesnail.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 252px; height: 158px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwIAEWdXwbI/AAAAAAAAD58/QgCqP5nWYqc/s320/bluesnail.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5404882577546265010" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;O &lt;a href="http://www.calacademy.org/blogs/rockyshore/"&gt;check out the Rocky Shore Partnership BLOG&lt;/a&gt; and I'll be back in a few days with some PISASTEROUS starfishy goodness for all o'  y'all!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-2368935115071724598?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/2368935115071724598/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=2368935115071724598' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/2368935115071724598'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/2368935115071724598'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/meetthe-farallons-intertidal-wilderness.html' title='Meet...The Farallons: ROCKY Intertidal Wilderness of San Francisco!!!!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SwH5mh-sX4I/AAAAAAAAD5s/aNde0c6FJFk/s72-c/farallons-arch.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-3227144156441165809</id><published>2009-11-09T15:34:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-10T06:17:51.295-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tosia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='larvae'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Goniasteridae'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='speciation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Australia'/><title type='text'>Tosia Times TWO! Discovering NEW CRYPTIC species of Australian Biscuit Stars!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvjaCv5Og-I/AAAAAAAAD08/BP9_v2MZDr8/s1600-h/Kate%27s+Tosia.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 317px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvjaCv5Og-I/AAAAAAAAD08/BP9_v2MZDr8/s320/Kate%27s+Tosia.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402307493781996514" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Image courtesy of Kate M. Naughton!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Today, some neat science with a cool Australian starfish!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Today's blog comes from my colleagues &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" href="http://www.genetics.unimelb.edu.au/person/students/knaughton.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;Kate Naughton&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);" href="http://www.marine.csiro.au/nationalfacility/voyages/0207/voyagers/ohara.htm"&gt; Tim O'Hara at the Museum Victoria in Melbourne, Australia!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;who have JUST published a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; spankingly fresh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; paper describing a NEW species of the familiar Australian biscuit starfish, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Tosia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Svl1qNIoPvI/AAAAAAAAD10/pBkpLp7poco/s1600-h/MV+people.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 309px; height: 151px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Svl1qNIoPvI/AAAAAAAAD10/pBkpLp7poco/s320/MV+people.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402478595948429042" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(one is Kate and one is Tim-can you guess which one?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;I have mentioned &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Tosia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; before on the blog...It is a starfish in the family Goniasteridae and its genus name is the Latin word for "Inestimable" which alludes, of course, to the animals' incredible natural beauty!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Tosia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;, as&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);" href="http://www.publish.csiro.au/paper/IS06049.htm"&gt;I define it&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;, is found ONLY in Australia, where it is quite abundant and relatively well-known to the people who study marine biology thereabouts. One species in particular, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Tosia australis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;, occurs widely throughout the temperate southern part of Australia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvjZ3jXm6RI/AAAAAAAAD00/AxzEKoHPPMg/s1600-h/tosia.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 342px; height: 386px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvjZ3jXm6RI/AAAAAAAAD00/AxzEKoHPPMg/s320/tosia.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402307301441202450" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Image courtesy of Kate M. Naughton!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Taxonomists have been noticing &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;T. australis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; for YEARS and describing a myriad of species. Over the years, some FOURTEEN species have been described-but refinement of species concepts (and removal of unecessarily redundant species) have whittled down the total number to three.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;It has led to the identification of what's called the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Tosia australis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; species complex!!  That's what happens when you have a lot of closely-related populations that all may or may not be different species.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These populations usually show tenuous morphological differences between different "species" in the related network which are typically spread out over a relatively large geographic region.&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/big-deal-over-little-starfish.html"&gt; The North Pacific 6-rayed starfish &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Leptasterias&lt;/span&gt;, which I've written about here, is also a species complex&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;Something NEW! Brooding Discovered!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;    So, for an animal that occurs so close to shore, surprisingly little was known about it. In the 90s it was discovered that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Tosia australis &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;was a SPECIAL kind of starfish!!   It showed an unusual reproductive behavior:   BROODING juveniles!  That is to say, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;its offspring live on the adults.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not too unusual in vertebrates, but VERY unusual in starfish!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Also, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Tosia australis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; has been known since 1840-so it took over 150 years for them to discover that it brooded juveniles!! So, this led to some close observation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Svj1TWXvhSI/AAAAAAAAD1k/aOUgTiy8BQs/s1600-h/Tosia+australis-CAS+copy.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 308px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Svj1TWXvhSI/AAAAAAAAD1k/aOUgTiy8BQs/s320/Tosia+australis-CAS+copy.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402337465802392866" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvipdoMshrI/AAAAAAAAD0U/NQCYlhtzHOQ/s1600-h/DSCN0024.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvipdoMshrI/AAAAAAAAD0U/NQCYlhtzHOQ/s320/DSCN0024.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402254079502878386" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Image courtesy of Kate M. Naughton!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, the investigative talents of Ms. Naughton and Dr. O'Hara were applied towards the question!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;Did the difference in larvae mode also translate into further biological differences??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During a museum visit to Melbourne, I was talking shop with Kate and Tim.  I was pretty sure that all the morphological variation in the species complex would translate into regional or environmental differentiation VS. Tim who believed that they would split out by larval type.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Larvae in several other species is highly variable but often did not translate into phylogenetic differences..so I figured it would probably do the same here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And in fact, I was SO confident I was right, that I wagered a gentlemen's bet with Dr. O'Hara that I would be right!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(204, 0, 0);"&gt;So-I said:  "Go get the DNA and prove me wrong!"  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And so they did (and had started before I had made the bet!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Svjyet0V6KI/AAAAAAAAD1U/PUkiQb4SL8A/s1600-h/dna.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 223px; height: 289px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Svjyet0V6KI/AAAAAAAAD1U/PUkiQb4SL8A/s320/dna.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402334362540042402" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;Oops! Guess I just lost 10 bucks!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;          The final analysis following a survey of many specimens from Victoria, Tasmania, and South Australia supported three different species, including something NEW that hadn't been observed before!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvjyGlXmOyI/AAAAAAAAD1M/Oku8zeL9Arw/s1600-h/100_2530.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 286px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvjyGlXmOyI/AAAAAAAAD1M/Oku8zeL9Arw/s320/100_2530.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402333947955133218" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Phylogenetic Tree inferred from COI and 16S RNA-and redrawn here by the Echinoblog Art Department!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Several specimens from Tasmania and Victoria were supported on a separate clade as a &lt;a href="http://www.marinespecies.org/Asteroidea/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&amp;amp;id=429225"&gt;NEW SPECIES.  Kate came to call it &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.marinespecies.org/Asteroidea/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&amp;amp;id=429225"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Tosia neossia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.marinespecies.org/Asteroidea/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&amp;amp;id=429225"&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The species epithet &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;neossia&lt;/span&gt; is Greek for "nest" in reference to this species' brooding habit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And here it is!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Svipd4WPG7I/AAAAAAAAD0c/z8xuYhMIfzs/s1600-h/SB1Ab02.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 214px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Svipd4WPG7I/AAAAAAAAD0c/z8xuYhMIfzs/s320/SB1Ab02.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402254083837860786" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Image courtesy of Kate M. Naughton!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;T. neossia&lt;/span&gt; is very similar to the well-known &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;T. australis&lt;/span&gt; but, aside from a bunch of external morphological features, one important feature sets them apart....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The difference is in the Larvae (i.e., juvenile starfish)!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the fundamental differences here is that of the difference in larvae between &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Tosia australis&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;T. neossia&lt;/span&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;The new species &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Tosia neossia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; had BOTTOM larvae with large yolky eggs (this kind of egg is called lecithotrophic)!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvipdoMshrI/AAAAAAAAD0U/NQCYlhtzHOQ/s1600-h/DSCN0024.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvipdoMshrI/AAAAAAAAD0U/NQCYlhtzHOQ/s320/DSCN0024.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402254079502878386" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Image courtesy of Kate M. Naughton!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Unlike more "typical" larvae, these tiny guys were negatively buoyant (that is to say, they sink rather then float)!  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;They are emitted from the mother and crawl along the bottom using little lobes  to get around until they fully develop into larval adults.  These little BOTTOM larvae (shown here as early stage larvae) can be seen here (courtesy of Kate Naughton!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvioVujbxeI/AAAAAAAAD0E/CsFcbUlbDik/s1600-h/Capture_00008.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvioVujbxeI/AAAAAAAAD0E/CsFcbUlbDik/s320/Capture_00008.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402252844258280930" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Image courtesy of Kate M. Naughton!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is where the larvae begin to change into what Kate calls the "tripod phase".  These utilize a large lobe that helps move the larvae around before it begins to attach someplace on the ground after developing to the right stage....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvioVxxxesI/AAAAAAAAD0M/R2udNPYchWo/s1600-h/Capture_00024.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvioVxxxesI/AAAAAAAAD0M/R2udNPYchWo/s320/Capture_00024.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402252845123730114" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Image courtesy of Kate M. Naughton!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-size:85%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;....And finally, here is the settled larvae (oral view-looking up into the mouth).  Note the tiny red dots, which will eventually become the eyespots!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This little fellow will develop into what will eventually become&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvipeTJ7KzI/AAAAAAAAD0k/xemgUa5Pxbk/s1600-h/Capture_00005.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvipeTJ7KzI/AAAAAAAAD0k/xemgUa5Pxbk/s320/Capture_00005.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402254091033979698" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Image courtesy of Kate M. Naughton!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;....the adult!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Svipd4WPG7I/AAAAAAAAD0c/z8xuYhMIfzs/s1600-h/SB1Ab02.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 214px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Svipd4WPG7I/AAAAAAAAD0c/z8xuYhMIfzs/s320/SB1Ab02.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402254083837860786" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;This is in direct CONTRAST to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; Tosia australis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; which has SWIMMING juveniles that emerge from the aboral surface (via gonopores on the top surface).  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvjaCv5Og-I/AAAAAAAAD08/BP9_v2MZDr8/s1600-h/Kate%27s+Tosia.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 317px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvjaCv5Og-I/AAAAAAAAD08/BP9_v2MZDr8/s320/Kate%27s+Tosia.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5402307493781996514" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;In contrast to the larval juveniles of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;T. neossia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;T. australis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; has eggs that are &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;postively buoyant&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; and are covered with small CILIA!! That is, they have little beating hair-like threads that can keep them swimming before they settle out somewhere.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;Summary Time!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In addition to the DNA and morphological evidence (you can go to the paper for details) the larval story goes like this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;Tosia neossia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;!  &lt;/span&gt;Gonopores open on ORAL surface (i.e., DOWN) where the juveniles sink to the bottom.  They are bottom-living and non-ciliated until they grow into juvenile adults!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;Tosia australis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt; Gonopores open on ABORAL surface (i.e., UP) where the juveniles float and can sustain a swimming stage until they settle to the bottom and grow into juvenile adults&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;TWO species. VERY similar looking! but with DISTINCT juveniles growing into adults that are hiding right in plain sight!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best 10 bucks I ever lost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Thanks to Kate Naughton for helping me with images!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-3227144156441165809?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/3227144156441165809/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=3227144156441165809' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/3227144156441165809'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/3227144156441165809'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/tosia-times-two-discovering-new-cryptic.html' title='&lt;i&gt;Tosia&lt;/i&gt; Times TWO! Discovering NEW CRYPTIC species of Australian Biscuit Stars!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvjaCv5Og-I/AAAAAAAAD08/BP9_v2MZDr8/s72-c/Kate%27s+Tosia.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-6039863391293485389</id><published>2009-11-04T14:38:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-05T15:22:50.250-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='peniagone'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deep-sea video'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Novodinia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='swimming cuke'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='NOAA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bahamas'/><title type='text'>Bioluminescence 2009 Expedition! Swimming Cuke Video &amp; MORE!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;New!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Echinoderm Image &amp;amp; Video Highlights from the&lt;a href="http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/09bioluminescence/welcome.html"&gt; 2009 Bioluminescence Expedition&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; (from deep-sea Bahamas)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;Video of the deep-sea SWIMMING holothurian &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Hansenothuria benti&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Miller &amp;amp; Pawson (graciously identified by &lt;a href="http://invertebrates.si.edu/staff/pawson.cfm"&gt;Dave Pawson, Curator of Echinoderms at the NMNH!&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;shown here being captured by the Johnson Sea Link submersible!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/IYD5I6Fiapw&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/IYD5I6Fiapw&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Three &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;Endoxocrinus maclearanus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt; flank a purple sea fan with a snake star.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvIEnAnkfII/AAAAAAAADzU/Woa-bcs8ZD8/s1600-h/chuck_endox_macle_600.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 283px; height: 334px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvIEnAnkfII/AAAAAAAADzU/Woa-bcs8ZD8/s320/chuck_endox_macle_600.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5400383971398024322" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(&lt;em&gt;Image from the Bioluminescence 2009 Expedition, NOAA/OER&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/09bioluminescence/logs/july24/media/chuck_endox_macle.html"&gt; website&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The Deep-Sea brisingid starfish, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:100%;" &gt;Novodinia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;. Probably &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:100%;" &gt;Novodinia antillensis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvIGnDXg7xI/AAAAAAAADzs/brqqEkcr0tk/s1600-h/orange_sea_star_600.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvIGnDXg7xI/AAAAAAAADzs/brqqEkcr0tk/s320/orange_sea_star_600.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5400386171159244562" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(&lt;em&gt;Image from &lt;a href="http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/09bioluminescence/logs/july21/media/orange_sea_star.html"&gt;the Bioluminescence 2009 Expedition, NOAA/OER website&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Stalked Crinoid in repose...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvIFtx_MkeI/AAAAAAAADzc/VPTylrPK54g/s1600-h/chuck_endox_priono_600.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 274px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvIFtx_MkeI/AAAAAAAADzc/VPTylrPK54g/s320/chuck_endox_priono_600.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5400385187241300450" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(&lt;em&gt;Image &lt;a href="http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/09bioluminescence/logs/july24/media/chuck_endox_priono.html"&gt;from the Bioluminescence 2009 Expedition, NOAA/OER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/09bioluminescence/logs/july24/media/chuck_endox_priono.html"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/09bioluminescence/logs/july24/media/chuck_endox_priono.html"&gt;website&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr. Charles "THE MAN" Messing. Crinoid expert, snappy dresser, thespian, and dude!! He&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/09bioluminescence/logs/july24/july24.html"&gt; discovered a new species while on this cruise ...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvIGmz7iX8I/AAAAAAAADzk/zL7J3vILSik/s1600-h/chuck_messing_600.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvIGmz7iX8I/AAAAAAAADzk/zL7J3vILSik/s320/chuck_messing_600.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5400386167015366594" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(&lt;em&gt;Image from&lt;a href="http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/09bioluminescence/logs/july24/media/chuck_messing.html"&gt; the Bioluminescence 2009 Expedition, NOAA/OER website)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-6039863391293485389?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/6039863391293485389/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=6039863391293485389' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/6039863391293485389'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/6039863391293485389'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/bioluminescence-2009-expedition.html' title='Bioluminescence 2009 Expedition! Swimming Cuke Video &amp; MORE!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SvIEnAnkfII/AAAAAAAADzU/Woa-bcs8ZD8/s72-c/chuck_endox_macle_600.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-6741272155001625105</id><published>2009-11-02T09:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-03T14:05:36.171-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Asteroidea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='telling the difference'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='morphology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ophiuroidea'/><title type='text'>The Basics: How to Tell Sea Stars (Asteroids) from Brittle Stars (Ophiuroids)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su8WD9RTInI/AAAAAAAADww/YbGPxwmRQ2k/s1600-h/ophMad.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 317px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su8WD9RTInI/AAAAAAAADww/YbGPxwmRQ2k/s320/ophMad.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399558735483052658" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;So, for various reasons, I thought I would do something a little unusual today and actually delver into some basic "how do you tell the difference between x and y" type stuff today. &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;Why?  Especially when you can find these sorts of characteristics listed in any Invertebrate Zoology text book?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;A confluence of things:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt;1. Its November. And all over the country, bunches of Invertebrate Zoology students are probably hitting the "Echinodermata" part of their class by now.  Let's make it easier for them!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 204);font-size:100%;" &gt;2. Certain high-traffic informational websites, which shall remain &lt;a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/28/20448/071/770/667393"&gt;nameless&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 204);font-size:78%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt;seem to have MIXED UP the difference between &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt;asteroids &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt;(starfish, sea stars) and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt;ophiuroids&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt; (serpent stars, brittle stars, basket stars).   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt;And SO, I feel its about the right time to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);"&gt;make this information more WIDELY available...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt;3. I've never done it before!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;So, here's some basics!&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;To start off, BOTH asteroids and ophiuroids are members of the phylum ECHINODERMATA. To show the parallel, humans are members of the phylum CHORDATA.  Surprisingly though Chordates and echinoderms are both more closely related to one another then they are to say, insects, mollusks, or crustaceans. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, Starfish!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;Starfish belong to the Class ASTEROIDEA . When you look at the roots words "Aster" means STAR and "oid" literally means "resembling" or "like"..So scientific term translates to "Star-like".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-y4bOkEYI/AAAAAAAADxA/D2vvzBERm8o/s1600-h/100_0809.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 290px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-y4bOkEYI/AAAAAAAADxA/D2vvzBERm8o/s320/100_0809.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399731160691773826" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;In the truest sense, the 'common name" is  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;ASTEROIDS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;But of course, these are also referred to by a variety of names, so that they are not confused with asteroids in space!:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;sea star. starfish.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;  In Spanish:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102);"&gt;estrella de mar&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;  In French: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 102);"&gt;etoile de mer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;  In Japan, they are called &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"&gt;hitode&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;which alludes to the name for "hand" or "palm".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;What about Ophiuroids?? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-2uu1_ZSI/AAAAAAAADxI/kBWl_qwapsU/s1600-h/DSCN1585.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-2uu1_ZSI/AAAAAAAADxI/kBWl_qwapsU/s320/DSCN1585.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399735392205235490" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;The given name for ophiuroids is a little more indirect. The class name "Ophiuroidea" refers to "Ophios" which refers to the arms as snake or serpent and "oidea" which means "resemble" or "like"...probably in reference to the arm shape and/or behavior of the animal when alive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;The resemblance to asteroids was noticed early on, of course. And several early designations of these animals actually refer to them as "Asterias" which is the name later tied specifically to asteroids.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;So, How do you Tell them APART???&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some easy diagnostic characteristics!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"&gt;1. The Madreporite or Sieve Plate.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;You know that offset "hole" that you see on starfish like this one?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;This plate is thought to serve as entry spot where water enters the internal body cavity of the animal. ALL echinoderms have a madreporite-but its location and shape is modified to degree or another.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;In asteroids the madreporite (also called a sieve plate) is located on the top or aboral surface as indicated by the red circle.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-hhnjKM7I/AAAAAAAADw4/qiRPS13waow/s1600-h/pisaster-mad.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 270px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-hhnjKM7I/AAAAAAAADw4/qiRPS13waow/s320/pisaster-mad.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399712077164721074" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;BUT in ophiuroids (brittle stars and such) the madreporite is located on the BOTTOM or ORAL surface. As seen here:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su8WD9RTInI/AAAAAAAADww/YbGPxwmRQ2k/s1600-h/ophMad.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 317px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su8WD9RTInI/AAAAAAAADww/YbGPxwmRQ2k/s320/ophMad.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399558735483052658" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"&gt;2. Tube Foot Groove in Asteroids (starfish, sea stars) is OPEN.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Although the degree that this groove is open varies, it should always be open to the outside. The tube feet emerge from this open groove and lead into the mouth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su8U2P4LqKI/AAAAAAAADwY/TEOsCHDZ7-g/s1600-h/DSCN1583.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 176px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su8U2P4LqKI/AAAAAAAADwY/TEOsCHDZ7-g/s320/DSCN1583.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399557400448182434" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;In contrast, such a groove is ABSENT in ophiuroids (brittle stars). The oral surface of the arms is covered over with a "ventral" plate.  The tube feet can emerge through small openings but they are NOT open to the outside in the way that asteroids are....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su8U2WKbOQI/AAAAAAAADwg/p80dLxSUF4s/s1600-h/DSCN1582.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su8U2WKbOQI/AAAAAAAADwg/p80dLxSUF4s/s320/DSCN1582.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399557402135312642" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"&gt;3. The Fundamental Structure of the arm is DIFFERENT.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;   In asteroids-there are internal ossicles, which act as sort of support struts. The TUBE FEET emerge through these struts and emerge into the tube foot groove. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;    Here is a cut away showing these internal ossicles called AMBULACRALS which run down the radius of each arm. These ossicles join and form a sort of rafter-like formation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su_FqWgKV1I/AAAAAAAADxg/Thm_z5VeOX0/s1600-h/DSCN1577.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 129px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su_FqWgKV1I/AAAAAAAADxg/Thm_z5VeOX0/s320/DSCN1577.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399751809626167122" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;Ophiuroids actually DO have these structures, but they are modified quite differently into solid forms that resemble vertebrae (i.e., the bones in our spine). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su_FqHc_5WI/AAAAAAAADxY/7nMOJR2oSWg/s1600-h/OphiuroidInternal.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 165px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su_FqHc_5WI/AAAAAAAADxY/7nMOJR2oSWg/s320/OphiuroidInternal.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399751805586367842" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(this &lt;a href="http://www.palaeos.com/Invertebrates/Echinoderms/Ophiuroidea/Ophiuroidea.htm"&gt;image from Palaeos.org&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;In ophiuroids, these vertebrate are tightly enclosed by additional plates that tightly cover over the surface of the arm, including the bottom (see above).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su8U2pFE6AI/AAAAAAAADwo/uCrhQWM-rIg/s1600-h/DSCN1584.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 88px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su8U2pFE6AI/AAAAAAAADwo/uCrhQWM-rIg/s320/DSCN1584.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399557407213152258" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"&gt;4. The Mouth and associated skeletal parts is different.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 204);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;At this point, I can start to get into a whole bunch of complicated skeletal jargon associated with the skeleton that forms the mouth frame in a starfish (aka an asteroid-seen here looking down through a mouth)....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su_FqsvsnwI/AAAAAAAADxo/iBrp0_k2I00/s1600-h/DSCN1576.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 274px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su_FqsvsnwI/AAAAAAAADxo/iBrp0_k2I00/s320/DSCN1576.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399751815596908290" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;versus the one that forms the mouth of an ophiuroid... (seen here looking at the oral surface up into the mouth).  Basically, there's a WHOLE BUNCH of changes in the skeletal architecture surrounding the mouth, as its directed towards a substantially  different way of life...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(note that brittle stars don't drop an eversible stomach out of their mouth!)&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-2u6RiaaI/AAAAAAAADxQ/CV9pNYlzZdk/s1600-h/DSCN1586.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-2u6RiaaI/AAAAAAAADxQ/CV9pNYlzZdk/s320/DSCN1586.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399735395273566626" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;5. The Overall Body structure is different.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;The arms and disk of a starfish tend to be confluent with one another....Plus, the body cavity between the arm and disk is pretty open. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-y4bOkEYI/AAAAAAAADxA/D2vvzBERm8o/s1600-h/100_0809.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 290px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-y4bOkEYI/AAAAAAAADxA/D2vvzBERm8o/s320/100_0809.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399731160691773826" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;In brittle stars, the arms and disk are sharply set off from one another. The disk is a distinctly separated structure from the rest of the arms.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-2uu1_ZSI/AAAAAAAADxI/kBWl_qwapsU/s1600-h/DSCN1585.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su-2uu1_ZSI/AAAAAAAADxI/kBWl_qwapsU/s320/DSCN1585.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5399735392205235490" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Asteroids and Ophiuroids are DIFFERENT but closely related.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;There are literally, whole books, papers, and multi-year studies written on the subject of which characteristics are used to define the definition of "asteroid" versus "ophiuroid" (often in relation to older fossil forms) &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;and it's important not to call one the other!! &lt;/span&gt;(even with common names).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;In the truest sense, Ophiuroids are not " sea stars" or "starfish".  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-6741272155001625105?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/6741272155001625105/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=6741272155001625105' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/6741272155001625105'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/6741272155001625105'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/basics-how-to-tell-sea-stars-asteroids.html' title='The Basics: How to Tell Sea Stars (Asteroids) from Brittle Stars (Ophiuroids)'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Su8WD9RTInI/AAAAAAAADww/YbGPxwmRQ2k/s72-c/ophMad.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-4333384103428126081</id><published>2009-10-28T17:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-28T21:49:39.154-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='publications'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='plates'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fisher'/><title type='text'>Echinoderms!: The Old Fashioned Way</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SukeuVRE8JI/AAAAAAAADwA/jHHmbJPvRFc/s1600-h/olde1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 231px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SukeuVRE8JI/AAAAAAAADwA/jHHmbJPvRFc/s320/olde1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397879409711837330" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;      So, because of a lot of moving around and reshuffling of stuff at work, I was reintroduced to some old photographic plates of echinoderms from taxonomic monographs published by Smithsonian scientists from the early 20th Century.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These days, most people take pictures and can manipulate the images with computers and then electronically transfer those images into document files where they get published and so forth. A fairly paper free process (if you don't count the final result anyway!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But as recently as 10 years ago, pictures in scientific monographs were done by physically mounting photographs onto heavy cardboard plates.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Usually, these plates are thrown away after publication, but sometimes they get saved and one gets a real feel of just how different times were before Photoshop and the Internet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are a bunch of those plates, complete with instructions, possibly from the original author Walter K. Fisher himself!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The weird &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Trophodiscus&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;sea star with brooding babies! &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/hidden-treasure-of-trophodiscus.html"&gt; I featured this animal &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; This plate &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&amp;amp;lr=&amp;amp;id=cW8qAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;oi=fnd&amp;amp;dq=trophodiscus+fisher&amp;amp;ots=TIY8IhwWPG&amp;amp;sig=HgU82PqZx85nahuuoS2UI-Vb9ls"&gt;was featured in this publication by Walter K. Fisher.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SujgkF-1LEI/AAAAAAAADvg/mOzZ_BVoA2Q/s1600-h/olde4.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 220px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SujgkF-1LEI/AAAAAAAADvg/mOzZ_BVoA2Q/s320/olde4.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397811064089160770" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;These two plates were from the famous &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/big-echinoderm-big-book-blog.html"&gt;Walter K. Fisher North Pacific Starfishes monograph which I featured here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Ceramaster arcticus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SujgkvqvfqI/AAAAAAAADvw/MCkAW_ibY5k/s1600-h/olde2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 298px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SujgkvqvfqI/AAAAAAAADvw/MCkAW_ibY5k/s320/olde2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397811075279191714" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;..and &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Hippasteria spinosa&lt;/span&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SujgkeLe-AI/AAAAAAAADvo/fRRIrcRfzs4/s1600-h/olde3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 286px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SujgkeLe-AI/AAAAAAAADvo/fRRIrcRfzs4/s320/olde3.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397811070584682498" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The striking gorgonocephalid ophiuroid &lt;a href="http://www.marinespecies.org/Ophiuroidea/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&amp;amp;id=243147"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Astrocaneum&lt;/span&gt; (originally designated here as &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Astrocynodus&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;herrerai&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;described by Austin H. Clark in 1918.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SukeuVRE8JI/AAAAAAAADwA/jHHmbJPvRFc/s1600-h/olde1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 231px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SukeuVRE8JI/AAAAAAAADwA/jHHmbJPvRFc/s320/olde1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397879409711837330" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;There's a certain beauty  and solid beauty in these original prints that doesn't come from digital images...Plus knowing that that you were looking at EXACTLY the SAME material that the echinoderm greats like Austin Clark or Walter K. Fisher just makes for a damn exciting day!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-4333384103428126081?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/4333384103428126081/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=4333384103428126081' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/4333384103428126081'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/4333384103428126081'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/echinoderms-old-fashioned-way.html' title='Echinoderms!: The Old Fashioned Way'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SukeuVRE8JI/AAAAAAAADwA/jHHmbJPvRFc/s72-c/olde1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-8679126842604444574</id><published>2009-10-26T09:19:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-26T22:52:35.223-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jurassic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sphaeraster'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fossil'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Podosphaerasteridae'/><title type='text'>The Mystery of Sphaeraster! aka JURASSIC fossil starfish are WEIRD!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMarDbn_I/AAAAAAAADuA/E2E54o_lFHI/s1600-h/Abb3a.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 260px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMarDbn_I/AAAAAAAADuA/E2E54o_lFHI/s320/Abb3a.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5396944487079190514" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-size:85%;" &gt;(Courtesy &amp;amp; copyright of Christian Neuman in APH 37)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 204);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Today, an AWESOME treat courtesy of &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tornadoropa.eu/index.php"&gt;Christan Neumann, a German paleontologist who runs the Tornadoropa website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christian studies fossil echinoderms, especially sea urchins and sea stars and put me onto a new short paper he's written in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Arbeitskreis Palaontologie Hannover&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; 37: 92-97! Most of the pics featured today are courtesy of his article!&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But...WHAT?  You didn't realize that there was such a thing as starfish FOSSILS?&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Starfish, like other echinoderms are composed of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;thousands (maybe even hundreds of thousands) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;of individual calcium carbonate pieces (called ossicles or plates)!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;So, when they die, those pieces often get scattered into the sediment or the water or etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is why starfish ossicles are SO rare. When they die, these pieces scatter very easily and they fail to preserve over time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuZe9oLMc9I/AAAAAAAADvI/Mtb2HabsGlU/s1600-h/2pellet.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 242px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuZe9oLMc9I/AAAAAAAADvI/Mtb2HabsGlU/s320/2pellet.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397105616299520978" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(image of ossicle "hash" &lt;a href="http://www.chalk.discoveringfossils.co.uk/2BRITISH%20CHALK%20ASTEROIDS.htm"&gt;from R. Randall's British Chalk Fossil Site&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;BUT, sometimes we get lucky!  Those pieces get preferentially preserved, sometimes while they are still connected together, articulated into large chunks or &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;EVEN the complete animal!&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, in this case, we have pieces that clue us in to one of the most enigmatic of fossil echinoderms!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;    &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;The Sphaerasteridae!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt; An engimatic group of asteroids from the Jurassic! &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While dinosaurs were trying to figure out how to roam the Earth, these guys were happily sitting around in the seas of the Mesozoic!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Initially, the pieces recovered were like this:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMbkdnKTI/AAAAAAAADug/5-aHrOnyE4c/s1600-h/Abb2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 241px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMbkdnKTI/AAAAAAAADug/5-aHrOnyE4c/s320/Abb2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5396944502489819442" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Courtesy &amp;amp; copyright of Christian Neuman in APH 37)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You often recover MANY different pieces. Here we have fragments of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Sphaeraster punctatus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;More precisely..you get either individual pieces (i.e., individual plates) or  a "chunk" of the animal that looks like this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMbYiIrYI/AAAAAAAADuY/7Wo0hHTdVmg/s1600-h/Abb1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 279px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMbYiIrYI/AAAAAAAADuY/7Wo0hHTdVmg/s320/Abb1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5396944499287567746" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Courtesy of Christian Neuman in APH 37)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eventually, you have enough different fragments, pieces, and etc that you can make a guess as to what the original animal looked like.&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Starfish paleontology is a LOT like dinosaur paleontology or assembling an airplane model kit without the instructions!&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;You've got a bunch of pieces and you have to reassemble them into what looks like the right shape!&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So..what you've get here..VOILA!!  A &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;reconstruction&lt;/span&gt; of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Sphaeraster punctatus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; (described by Schondorf in 1906!).&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMarDbn_I/AAAAAAAADuA/E2E54o_lFHI/s1600-h/Abb3a.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 260px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMarDbn_I/AAAAAAAADuA/E2E54o_lFHI/s320/Abb3a.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5396944487079190514" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Courtesy of Christian Neuman in APH 37)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was weird but not really that big..about 75 mm across from left to right. Now bear in mind this is a RECONSTRUCTON. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The fossils aren't nearly as nice as this.&lt;/span&gt;  But it gives you SOME idea of what it looked like.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMbJm7apI/AAAAAAAADuQ/NyQrU_FH_yU/s1600-h/Abb3c.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 312px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMbJm7apI/AAAAAAAADuQ/NyQrU_FH_yU/s320/Abb3c.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5396944495281138322" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;BOTTOM (=Actinal) VIEW&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Courtesy &amp;amp; copyright of Christian Neuman in APH 37)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMa-rKg5I/AAAAAAAADuI/kYt5Qt7JnME/s1600-h/Abb3b.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 315px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMa-rKg5I/AAAAAAAADuI/kYt5Qt7JnME/s320/Abb3b.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5396944492346114962" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;TOP (=Abactinal) View &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Courtesy &amp;amp; copyright of Christian Neuman in APH 37)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what did this odd-looking thing do when it was alive??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;One of the most useful ideas for interpreting these fossils and putting them back together is a concept in paleonotology-indeed ALL of Geology-called  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformitarianism_%28science%29"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Uniformitarianism!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/a&gt;   &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Basically, this is the idea is that a lot of the physical processes  and relationships that happened in Earth's past are generally the SAME as they are today. So, we look for critters that appear SIMILAR today...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Because its possible the same physical forces may have influenced their appearance and body shape (and giving us insight into &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Sphaeraster&lt;/span&gt;!).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example:&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/holding-on-in-rough-world.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The Shingle Sea Urchin &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Colobocentrotus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;! &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Colobocentrotus &lt;/span&gt;makes its living by using its flattened spines to deflect waves in its habitat:  the harsh intertidal zone in the Indo-Pacific.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SAzd5N0QofI/AAAAAAAAAn8/uUlT--z89G0/s1600-h/coloboA.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SAzd5N0QofI/AAAAAAAAAn8/uUlT--z89G0/s320/coloboA.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5191768445482476018" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Interesting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Its got the plates. Its got the flange around the edge similar to the plates on the reconstruction.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;BUT its NOT a starfish.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Not directly related&lt;/span&gt;-but could it have lived this way???&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;   Possibly.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SAzbdd0QocI/AAAAAAAAAnk/8SsSGviCXUU/s1600-h/colobo3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SAzbdd0QocI/AAAAAAAAAnk/8SsSGviCXUU/s320/colobo3.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5191765769717850562" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Could it be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Xyloplax&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;?? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;The mysterious&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 255, 255);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/xyloplax-pt-1-echinoderm-weirdness.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);"&gt;asteroid-like beast with a flange of spines around its edge?  These beasts live in the deep-sea on sunken wood where they live flush on the surface.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Again..possibly/probably not related&lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;but could it have lived THIS way?? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 255, 255);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/xyloplax-pt-1-echinoderm-weirdness.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SOKjC5hWuoI/AAAAAAAABXI/uyYLIrGh0p0/s320/MAH39.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5251939385663208066" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Or perhaps...&lt;a style="color: rgb(102, 255, 255);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/tremaster-mirabilis-about-which-little.html"&gt;the strange "top hat" starfish, &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/tremaster-mirabilis-about-which-little.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(102, 255, 255);"&gt;Tremaster&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 255, 255);"&gt;??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/tremaster-mirabilis-about-which-little.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SH99iJ9GDZI/AAAAAAAABBo/pFLO9LVwQ1s/s320/trem1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5224032118514257298" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;..or could it be The LIVING completely, SPHAERICAL starfish-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;Podosphaeraster&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;???&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuZXpTY-7rI/AAAAAAAADvA/87kp6IBsB5U/s1600-h/podo1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 220px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuZXpTY-7rI/AAAAAAAADvA/87kp6IBsB5U/s320/podo1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397097570541432498" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;At first, these nearly round sea stars WERE thought to belong to the fossil Sphaerasteridae.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;But over the years, these strange creatures have&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" href="http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200303/000020030303A0030626.php"&gt;eventually come to be classified in their own unique family-the Podosphaerasteridae&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;nd separated from the fossil Sphaerasteridae.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);"&gt;and while, this is plausible, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;it should be noted that NOTHING is known about these critters. &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;So, maybe its not a podospherasterid either..?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We have some AMAZING body shapes and morphology but we have very little biology to match it up with!  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Where does that leave us??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Believe it or not, this is it. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;This is practically our total state of our knowledge of these animals.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  These beasts fall into the category "about which, little is known..."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It  is a pretty curious place where Paleontology and Deep-sea Taxonomy converge!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;ul style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Both involve specimens (often damaged) with unusual shapes or structures which have been subjects of attempted "interpretation".&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Both often involve bizarre mophologies without any direct observation of ecology or even fundamental life mode.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Both subjects usually involve rarely encountered animals which only exceptionally are discovered intact!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"&gt;So..from here?  What do we need?   Maybe the talents of Leonard Nimoy on his "In Search of" show, to help discover some of these weird and rare animals?? (cause they sure are a LOT harder to find then the Loch Ness Monster!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuaDDq2zFtI/AAAAAAAADvY/SthF5WjXUE0/s1600-h/nimoy1"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 242px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuaDDq2zFtI/AAAAAAAADvY/SthF5WjXUE0/s320/nimoy1" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397145302517094098" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;Fantastic.  BUT real. :-)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-8679126842604444574?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/8679126842604444574/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=8679126842604444574' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/8679126842604444574'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/8679126842604444574'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/mystery-of-sphaeraster-aka-jurassic.html' title='The Mystery of &lt;i&gt;Sphaeraster&lt;/i&gt;! aka JURASSIC fossil starfish are WEIRD!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SuXMarDbn_I/AAAAAAAADuA/E2E54o_lFHI/s72-c/Abb3a.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-7515456624933517807</id><published>2009-10-22T07:00:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-22T11:41:49.196-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Echinoidea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='best of the echinoblog'/><title type='text'>Best of the Echinoblog:  The Sea Urchin Scene!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;The moving of my office and etc. has been a huge time sink..and so, here is another "Best of the Echinoblog" this time around: SEA URCHINS!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will have new good stuff next week!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/dermechinus-horridus-trick-or-treat.html"&gt;The mystery of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Dermechinus horridus&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/dermechinus-horridus-trick-or-treat.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 203px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SQjcLY8AMBI/AAAAAAAABmA/rH4E1V7JRxU/s320/Dermechinus.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262698252813217810" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/dermechinus-horridus-trick-or-treat.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Thanks to Dave Pawson, NMNH and NIWA for this image)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/dermechinus-horridus-trick-or-treat.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;A trick or treat ???   from 2008 Halloween!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sea Urchins ARE.&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/by-numbers-echinoderm-publications-on.html"&gt; perhaps the most heavily studied of echinoderms.. Read a quick survey here...&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SHFiNtTbSJI/AAAAAAAAA_o/Z9MkARukvaM/s320/strongylopurp.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5220061430738012306" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/holding-on-in-rough-world.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The Tenacious Indo-Pacific Shingle Urchin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;!  Holding on in a Rough World!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/holding-on-in-rough-world.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SAzd5N0QofI/AAAAAAAAAn8/uUlT--z89G0/s320/coloboA.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5191768445482476018" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-are-those-holes-in-sand-dollars.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;What are the holes in Sand Dollars for?? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-are-those-holes-in-sand-dollars.html"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/solid-sand-dollar-survival-enter-weight.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;And What about Weight Belts???&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-are-those-holes-in-sand-dollars.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 277px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SX6LdudqwCI/AAAAAAAAB8c/nR4OARdCuhg/s320/sanddollar.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5295823554639216674" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-old-can-sea-urchins-live.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;How Long Can Sea Urchins Live??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-old-can-sea-urchins-live.html"&gt;  The answer will surprise you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-old-can-sea-urchins-live.html"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5308704048565071250" style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 320px; height: 255px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SaxONJhmLZI/AAAAAAAACHQ/eVAu2K_x3N0/s320/bomb.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/true-meaning-of-aristotles-lantern.html"&gt;Is the Jaw REALLY called Aristotle's Lantern??&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/true-meaning-of-aristotles-lantern.html"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 102);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/true-meaning-of-aristotles-lantern.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/STNHYcqOkWI/AAAAAAAABvg/qYDDD131L2g/s320/jaw.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5274638073916723554" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sea Urchins are also seen in ARCHAEOLOGY!!!  &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/archaeological-echinoderm-fairy-loaves.html"&gt;Go here.   &lt;/a&gt;and&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/archaeological-echinoderm-pt-2-sea-eggs.html"&gt; HERE.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SWvNZ_4C3fI/AAAAAAAAB4U/By_qWcLmz6M/s1600-h/micrastermound.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 262px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SWvNZ_4C3fI/AAAAAAAAB4U/By_qWcLmz6M/s320/micrastermound.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5290548033803705842" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/echinoderm-big-battle-sea-urchins.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Cidaroid (echinoid) Vs. Crinoid (stalked!):  Sea Urchin ATTACK!! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: verdana; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/echinoderm-big-battle-sea-urchins.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SBTl_vXkY2I/AAAAAAAAAqc/83vRoI5SLPg/s320/Calocidarismicans2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5194029153474863970" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;(Image courtesy of Dave Pawson, NMNH)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-7515456624933517807?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/7515456624933517807/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=7515456624933517807' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/7515456624933517807'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/7515456624933517807'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/best-of-echinoblog-sea-urchin-scene.html' title='Best of the Echinoblog:  The Sea Urchin Scene!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SQjcLY8AMBI/AAAAAAAABmA/rH4E1V7JRxU/s72-c/Dermechinus.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-7667644873004448819</id><published>2009-10-15T21:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-19T15:25:04.949-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='behind the scenes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tropical Pacific'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='brisingid'/><title type='text'>So What Was Chris doing instead of blogging last week?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StyolqjVwHI/AAAAAAAADrU/i5zzn2mxey0/s1600-h/-1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StyolqjVwHI/AAAAAAAADrU/i5zzn2mxey0/s320/-1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5394371818714153074" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;1. First...&lt;/span&gt;I was helping &lt;a href="http://imina.soest.hawaii.edu/HMRG/facstaff/margo/"&gt;Dr. Margo Edwards at the Hawaii Mapping Research Group&lt;/a&gt; identify brisingid starfishes for a project involving high school students mapping these neat animals south of Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.  Here we have (above) a cluster that Margo calls "Mother &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Brisinga&lt;/span&gt;"... (although, this may or may not be &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Brisinga&lt;/span&gt;..)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;2. Second&lt;/span&gt;..Helping &lt;a href="http://www.neaq.org/education_and_activities/blogs_webcams_videos_and_more/blogs/pipa_expedition_blog/2009/10/slow-and-spineless.php"&gt;my colleagues at the New England Aquarium on their Expedition to the Phoenix Islands in the North Pacific to identify various echinoderms seen on their trip!!&lt;/a&gt; They are &lt;a href="http://www.neaq.org/education_and_activities/blogs_webcams_videos_and_more/blogs/pipa_expedition_blog/index.php"&gt;blogging their trip with many neat things to see (although not nearly as many invertebrates as I would like!)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example...this little guy is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Linckia multifora&lt;/span&gt;, a small fissiparous ophidiasterid. Widespread throughout the Indo-Pacific area..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Stf3Z3dtqeI/AAAAAAAADoU/hFXgkqZ09PE/s1600-h/IMG_1984-722669.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Stf3Z3dtqeI/AAAAAAAADoU/hFXgkqZ09PE/s320/IMG_1984-722669.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5393051102556826082" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This is another very common member of the Indo-Pacific echinoderm fauna..the sea urchin &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Echinometra&lt;/span&gt;, probably &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;E. mathaei &lt;/span&gt;but species for this genus are difficult to tell from pictures..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Stf3ZYEcBkI/AAAAAAAADoM/qz3FzpTZKR8/s1600-h/IMG_1341-794605.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Stf3ZYEcBkI/AAAAAAAADoM/qz3FzpTZKR8/s320/IMG_1341-794605.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5393051094129313346" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;and finally, what looks like &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Diadema&lt;/span&gt; to me..with species hard to call from a picture..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Stf3ZM0RwLI/AAAAAAAADoE/h-6yWTMp6JE/s1600-h/IMG_2277-743896.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Stf3ZM0RwLI/AAAAAAAADoE/h-6yWTMp6JE/s320/IMG_2277-743896.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5393051091108741298" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;and finally 3. MOVING!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   Nothing terribly dramatic..but I have been relocated to a new office just down the hall!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StypsM9xW2I/AAAAAAAADrc/-2XFk45aBco/s1600-h/DSCN1546.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 233px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StypsM9xW2I/AAAAAAAADrc/-2XFk45aBco/s320/DSCN1546.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5394373030542662498" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Similar to both of that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Diadema (&lt;/span&gt;or that Echinometra) I had gotten pretty entrained in my office....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Stf3ZM0RwLI/AAAAAAAADoE/h-6yWTMp6JE/s1600-h/IMG_2277-743896.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Stf3ZM0RwLI/AAAAAAAADoE/h-6yWTMp6JE/s320/IMG_2277-743896.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5393051091108741298" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;With LOTS of papers and stuffs to move!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StypsXnmXnI/AAAAAAAADrk/BO_N45tFOME/s1600-h/DSCN1547.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StypsXnmXnI/AAAAAAAADrk/BO_N45tFOME/s320/DSCN1547.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5394373033402457714" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;But the new office is worth it!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StyptE-MKxI/AAAAAAAADrs/99AnrOI_4CM/s1600-h/DSCN1548.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 243px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StyptE-MKxI/AAAAAAAADrs/99AnrOI_4CM/s320/DSCN1548.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5394373045576805138" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;and thanks to&lt;a href="http://biochemicalsoul.com/about/"&gt; Daniel Brown at Biochemical Soul&lt;/a&gt; for providing some of the new decor in my office!!  (note that the poster also shows the phylogenetic relationships of the extant taxa!!) Keen!  &lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.zazzle.com/echinodermata_poster-228562629141813243"&gt;You can buy the poster from Zazzle..here!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Styptxwb-TI/AAAAAAAADr0/-9kYXTJv_Rw/s1600-h/DSCN1549.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Styptxwb-TI/AAAAAAAADr0/-9kYXTJv_Rw/s320/DSCN1549.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5394373057598716210" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;A GREAT view of the National Museum of American History and the WA monument from my desk!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Styvr9QtZ8I/AAAAAAAADr8/8lysvH8MgHg/s1600-h/DSCN1550.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Styvr9QtZ8I/AAAAAAAADr8/8lysvH8MgHg/s320/DSCN1550.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5394379623396894658" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;There will be more!! &lt;/span&gt;Now that things are getting back to normal.....&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-7667644873004448819?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/7667644873004448819/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=7667644873004448819' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/7667644873004448819'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/7667644873004448819'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/so-what-was-chris-doing-instead-of.html' title='So What Was Chris doing instead of blogging last week?'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StyolqjVwHI/AAAAAAAADrU/i5zzn2mxey0/s72-c/-1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-8524067289475583691</id><published>2009-10-12T17:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-13T15:03:28.357-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='oreasteridae'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deep-sea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Japan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Astrosarkus'/><title type='text'>Astrosarkus: Discovering The Great Pumpkin Starfish! FIRST VIDEO of this species ALIVE!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPdGmC_6hI/AAAAAAAADnM/CkVXYkxoKBo/s1600-h/-1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPdGmC_6hI/AAAAAAAADnM/CkVXYkxoKBo/s320/-1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5391896284254693906" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 153);font-size:85%;" &gt;(photo thanks to Yoichi Kogure, Japan Sea National Fisheries Research Institute)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;This week! A Fall-October Starfish Treat!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" href="http://apt.allenpress.com/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&amp;amp;doi=10.1043%2F0007-4977%282003%29073[0685%3AAIANIG]2.0.CO%3B2&amp;amp;ct=1"&gt;2003, I described an amazing new genus and species of deep-sea oreasterid starfish in the Bulletin of Marine Sciences &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Astrosarkus idipi &lt;/span&gt;from the "sub-reef" region (known by some as the "Twilight Zone") in the South Pacific and Indian Oceans in about 67-200 meter depth.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPVVo0yyGI/AAAAAAAADm8/hgtNz283Agk/s1600-h/astrosarkus.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 227px; height: 401px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPVVo0yyGI/AAAAAAAADm8/hgtNz283Agk/s320/astrosarkus.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5391887746605434978" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;It was one of the most physically stunning starfish I had ever seen. Not only was it the color,  but it had the texture, and SIZE of a pumpkin!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But here was a new GENUS and SPECIES that was easily one foot across (=0.3 meter) and about 4-5 inches (~0.1 m) THICK. It was ENORMOUS.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;How had such a LARGE starfish evaded description for so long??? &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Apparently, this particular depth range had been inaccesible to the two conventional types of collection gear-trawl nets and SCUBA gear. &lt;br /&gt;     The "sub-reef" zone was inaccessible to trawl nets and too deep for conventional SCUBA gear.  With the advent of submersibles and deep-diving type "re-breather" gear , scientists could suddenly access a part of the ocean that had previously been poorly understood.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPePMKtHTI/AAAAAAAADnc/QCfmPrWsqyk/s1600-h/pumpkin.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 290px; height: 319px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPePMKtHTI/AAAAAAAADnc/QCfmPrWsqyk/s320/pumpkin.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5391897531438144818" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;The first specimen was sent to me &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 153);" href="http://www.coralreefresearchfoundation.org/"&gt;by Pat and Lori Colin, the biologists at the Coral Reef Research Foundation in Koror Palau,&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; which they had collected their specimen using "re-breather" SCUBA type gear.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;I had NEVER seen anything like it before.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;After that initial specimen I started my PhD and ended up surveying museums all around the world and discovered TWO more of these animals during my travels..&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPuGL5nlKI/AAAAAAAADn0/JL0KTzn5OYU/s1600-h/-2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 122px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPuGL5nlKI/AAAAAAAADn0/JL0KTzn5OYU/s320/-2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5391914968933700770" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:78%;" &gt;(photo thanks to Yoichi Kogure, Japan Sea National Fisheries Research Institute)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The journey of discovering these animals was an adventure...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 51);"&gt;In Hawaii,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I discovered the second-known specimen in a 10 gallon bucket that had been in storage since the 1980s.  If it were not for the lack of air-conditioning, I would not have been fiddling with the floor fan and discovered the bucket that was sitting underneath it!&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oddly enough, this specimen had also been collected in Enewetok by Pat Colin!&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);"&gt;Years later in Europe, &lt;/span&gt;I&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; discovered a second dried specimen from the southern Indian Ocean on a specimen shelf among starfish that had been stored in a marine biology laboratory in Belgium!&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;I began to describe the animal in detail.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;The specimen actually had to be x-rayed so I could get some idea of what it looked like&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;The animal's skeleton was almost COMPLETELY reduced.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StP01XdbGFI/AAAAAAAADn8/hK666vpeFIk/s1600-h/100_2394.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 178px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StP01XdbGFI/AAAAAAAADn8/hK666vpeFIk/s320/100_2394.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5391922376560285778" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; Most of the animal was made up of a thick, smooth meat that was criss-crossed with channels that opened into the body cavity and opened out to the body surface.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There was almost NOTHING left of the externally expressed skeleton that one would normally use to identify it!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPaBziPT2I/AAAAAAAADnE/wLBINKTTyZg/s1600-h/astrosarkus+dissection.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 363px; height: 405px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPaBziPT2I/AAAAAAAADnE/wLBINKTTyZg/s320/astrosarkus+dissection.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5391892903441157986" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(From my 2003 paper on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Astrosarkus&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, how did I finally determine what it was?  Thanks to help from&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 153);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 153);" href="http://www.geology.uiuc.edu/%7Eblake/"&gt;Dan Blake, my PhD advisor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign&lt;/a&gt;, I was able to identify the individual skeletal pieces as unique to the Oreasteridae!  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebizweb/pages/nmnh/iz/Display.php?irn=788207&amp;amp;QueryPage=Query.php"&gt;unique type specimen, the HOLOTYPE&lt;/a&gt; was ultimately deposited into the &lt;a href="http://invertebrates.si.edu/"&gt;Invertebrate Zoology collections at the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPpqi9XsII/AAAAAAAADns/kiEnPfJJPI4/s1600-h/14.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPpqi9XsII/AAAAAAAADns/kiEnPfJJPI4/s320/14.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5391910096040603778" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Oreasterids are a group of widespread tropical starfish which have heavily built up skeletons.  Familiar members of the Oreasteridae include genera, such as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Culctia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Protoreaster&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;, which I have written about in the past.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recently, my colleague, &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 153, 102);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/giant-monster-starfish-from-japan-pt-2.html"&gt;Yoichi Kogure at the&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/giant-monster-starfish-from-japan-pt-2.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 153, 102);font-size:100%;" &gt;Japan Sea National Fisheries Research Institute&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; was able to collect a NEW specimen of this species from Japan!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;The paper (Kogure et al. 2009. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Journal of the Biogeographical Society of Japan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; 11: 73-76) documents a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;substantial &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;range extension of this species from Enewetok, Palau, and the southern Indian Ocean to Japan and American Samoa!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;Amazingly, the Japanese captured FOOTAGE of this animal while it was still alive!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 255);"&gt;And here courtesy of the ROV cameras of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 255);"&gt; SNK OCEAN CO., LTD. in Japan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 255);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 204, 255);"&gt;is the FIRST video of  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 204, 255);"&gt;Astrosarkus idipii &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 255);"&gt;ALIVE!! &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The animal remains alive at an aquarium in Okinawa, Japan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;    &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-9e12d25fdb4bd07b" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.blogger.com/img/videoplayer.swf?videoUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fvp.video.google.com%2Fvideodownload%3Fversion%3D0%26secureurl%3DqAAAAOF-u9WtopylwZ9XHAqIS4S70q5fd8Ht9UBkUW_lwVClYwrVZdlLbLDXnkTmDiGkpSrVeDx_27zMQHBsE232fAKCXxAQCnOzu4BmThDoUu4jVduQYdMit-uXdJJR0GtIW7Xolnl2mg6HEPvxfwxjVowBxoGlAMeap6ZFrp1AedJd4uev8eo8v1kh_2p76RjcsM9FrQslRWw1sZDFKFpsaSbQjyVgQI2Lr4MaY4Lr4B7A%26sigh%3DQJpg5rJwwclFvWcPuar0tMic3tE%26begin%3D0%26len%3D86400000%26docid%3D0&amp;amp;nogvlm=1&amp;amp;thumbnailUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2FThumbnailServer2%3Fapp%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D9e12d25fdb4bd07b%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw320%26sigh%3DfbGPQPItMB8PpFlZZ4aGpa4NfJs&amp;amp;messagesUrl=video.google.com%2FFlashUiStrings.xlb%3Fframe%3Dflashstrings%26hl%3Den"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;embed width="320" height="266" src="http://www.blogger.com/img/videoplayer.swf?videoUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fvp.video.google.com%2Fvideodownload%3Fversion%3D0%26secureurl%3DqAAAAOF-u9WtopylwZ9XHAqIS4S70q5fd8Ht9UBkUW_lwVClYwrVZdlLbLDXnkTmDiGkpSrVeDx_27zMQHBsE232fAKCXxAQCnOzu4BmThDoUu4jVduQYdMit-uXdJJR0GtIW7Xolnl2mg6HEPvxfwxjVowBxoGlAMeap6ZFrp1AedJd4uev8eo8v1kh_2p76RjcsM9FrQslRWw1sZDFKFpsaSbQjyVgQI2Lr4MaY4Lr4B7A%26sigh%3DQJpg5rJwwclFvWcPuar0tMic3tE%26begin%3D0%26len%3D86400000%26docid%3D0&amp;amp;nogvlm=1&amp;amp;thumbnailUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2FThumbnailServer2%3Fapp%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D9e12d25fdb4bd07b%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw320%26sigh%3DfbGPQPItMB8PpFlZZ4aGpa4NfJs&amp;amp;messagesUrl=video.google.com%2FFlashUiStrings.xlb%3Fframe%3Dflashstrings%26hl%3Den" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;How RARE is this animal?? Less than SIX specimens exist in museums around the world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Its often thought that the great undiscovered numbers of new species are likely to be small and cryptic.. Here we have not only a new species, &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;but a new GENUS that is HUGE.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;we're STILL learning about it&lt;/span&gt;. What does it eat?  How does it reproduce?  How old is it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The adventure continues...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-8524067289475583691?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/8524067289475583691/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=8524067289475583691' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/8524067289475583691'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/8524067289475583691'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/astrosarkus-discovering-great-pumpkin.html' title='&lt;i&gt;Astrosarkus&lt;/i&gt;: Discovering The Great Pumpkin Starfish! FIRST VIDEO of this species ALIVE!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/StPdGmC_6hI/AAAAAAAADnM/CkVXYkxoKBo/s72-c/-1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-3336759132647281524</id><published>2009-10-08T18:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-08T21:59:51.580-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='video'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Echinoidea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sea urchin'/><title type='text'>Sea Urchin Video FRIDAY!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;Here's some sea urchin videos to tide everyone over for the three day weekend!  Happy Columbus Day!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Red Sea (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Strongylocentrotus franciscanus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;) Urchin Barren-Cal Fish &amp;amp; Game ROV video&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/MXQF7dhVDSY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/MXQF7dhVDSY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Fire Urchins from the Indo-Pacific!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/7K_N4OD585Q&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/7K_N4OD585Q&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;Purple Sea Urchins (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;Strongylocentrotus purpuratus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;) from Santa Cruz with some &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;Pisaster giganteus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt; action going on at the end...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/E_4G4jf-TiI&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/E_4G4jf-TiI&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Echinus acutus&lt;/span&gt; from the Aquarium de l'institut Océanographique de Paris&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/iqs3GPHVRpA&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/iqs3GPHVRpA&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-3336759132647281524?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/3336759132647281524/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=3336759132647281524' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/3336759132647281524'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/3336759132647281524'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/sea-urchin-video-friday.html' title='Sea Urchin Video FRIDAY!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-9069447958671015009</id><published>2009-10-05T09:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-05T13:28:45.951-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='feces'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Strongylocentrotus droebachiensis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='North Atlantic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='nutrients'/><title type='text'>Sea Urchin POOP!  The Importance of Strongylocentrotus feces!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsoguykIeUI/AAAAAAAADl8/Y9pE9wrhAHo/s1600-h/IMG_4337.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsoguykIeUI/AAAAAAAADl8/Y9pE9wrhAHo/s320/IMG_4337.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5389155892321614146" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Images courtesy of Dr. Robert E. Scheibling!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;Why is Green Sea Urchin poop important??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;Today's blog is based on data from a neat article produced by Leah  Sauchyn and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);" href="http://myweb.dal.ca/rescheib/rescheib.html"&gt;Robert Scheibling&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt; at Dalhousie University in Nova Scotia, Canada.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/www.int-res.com/articles/ab2009/6/b006p099.pdf"&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Aquatic Biology&lt;/span&gt; 6: 99-108 (and its OPEN ACCESS so everyone can read it!).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;First, the hero of our story...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;Strongylocentrotus droebachiensis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;- the Green Sea Urchin, which lives in the boreal North Atlantic, Arctic and North Pacific.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;Like its purple and red sister species, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;S. droebachiensis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; is an ecologically important and ABUNDANT member of northern cold-water ecosystems. These urchins can voraciously devour kelp and can transform rich kelp beds to urchin barrens when densities are high.  So, these urchins have an important impact on their surroundings..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;Here's  a recent issue of the Biological Bulletin (with photo by Rob Scheibling) that shows the crazy abundance of this species!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sson6OAPRFI/AAAAAAAADmc/6tR-41i01hQ/s1600-h/coverfig.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 242px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sson6OAPRFI/AAAAAAAADmc/6tR-41i01hQ/s320/coverfig.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5389163785247212626" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Green Sea Urchin+Kelp+Kelp+etc..=POOP!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;      Green sea urchins can consume kelp at astonishing rates, consuming 454 to 530 grams (dry weight) per day (along a linear meter).  Some 20% of the kelp mass consumed is digested and egested as mucus-covered fecal pellets about 1 to 3 mm in diameter.  That "translates" to  91 to 106 grams (dry weight) per day.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;      What does that mean? Your standard nut-type candy bar weighs about 65 grams or so, So they poop close to 1.5x the weight of your standard &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;Power Bar&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;     Now imagine HUNDEDS or THOUSANDS of them doing this.  Now see below:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsoguykIeUI/AAAAAAAADl8/Y9pE9wrhAHo/s1600-h/IMG_4337.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsoguykIeUI/AAAAAAAADl8/Y9pE9wrhAHo/s320/IMG_4337.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5389155892321614146" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;Sauchyn and Scheibling monitored how Green Sea Urchin feces changed over 4 depth points (6, 9, 12 and 15 meters) over a 19 day site on the Atlantic coast of Nova Scotia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;They looked at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;&lt;li&gt;fecal composition (what the poop is made from)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;pellet size (how big the poop is)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;settling velocity (how long it takes for poop to settle to the ground)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;Just to be clear..individual "fecal pellets" aren't that big (as indicated above only a few mm)..but you've literally got THOUSANDS of animals each putting out a substantial pile of feces all the time... After you've got a bunch they start to form big piles like this one:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsogwCL4wgI/AAAAAAAADmU/eybULHTfnms/s1600-h/IMG_4335_1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsogwCL4wgI/AAAAAAAADmU/eybULHTfnms/s320/IMG_4335_1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5389155913694757378" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);font-size:85%;" &gt;(Images courtesy of Dr. Robert E. Scheibling!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;So What Happens to it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;SO. You've got all this sea urchin poop that's floating around. What next?  Well..obviously, it starts to break down. and that's what happens here. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;The mass, density and composition of the fecal pellets begins to come apart &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;exponentially&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; as time goes forward!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;This almost certainly means that all of the good "stuff" in feces begans to CYCLE back into the nutrient and food web segments of the ecosystem. Because corresponding to the breakdown there was also an increase in different components in "nature's nutrient recycling system":&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Organic carbon&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nitrogen&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Lipid and available energy content&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Decrease in the Carbon to Nitrogen ratio. This one is important because it suggests that degraded sea urchin feces are an important food source for suspension feeding and deposit-feeding invertebrates (such as worms, some snails, etc.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Settling velocity also decreases over time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;So, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;bottom line: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"&gt;Sea urchin feces breaks down and cycles BACK into the ecosystem in a BIG WAY.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsogvzYA6-I/AAAAAAAADmM/mdPd3EzpG2c/s1600-h/IMG_4338_1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsogvzYA6-I/AAAAAAAADmM/mdPd3EzpG2c/s320/IMG_4338_1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5389155909719092194" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Images courtesy of Dr. Robert E. Scheibling!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;The above #5. "Feces settling velocity decreases over time" is an important one. Density for these fecal pellets decreases, so it seems logical for their ability to settle to ground to decline as well..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;The authors said it best:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 204, 255);"&gt;As the pellets degrade and become less dense, they are likley to be transported to even deeper, less productive waters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Ssogveo-5jI/AAAAAAAADmE/8l86-X_SfKs/s1600-h/IMG_4334_1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Ssogveo-5jI/AAAAAAAADmE/8l86-X_SfKs/s320/IMG_4334_1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5389155904153118258" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Images courtesy of Dr. Robert E. Scheibling!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;So, the poop (feces) from sea urchins contributes a significant portion of materials toward feeding microbial food webs and, in the bigger picture, to nutrient food webs in the marine realm.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SlGCHDSE-JI/AAAAAAAAC54/B0NpbnHh5wo/s1600-h/marinesnow.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 241px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SlGCHDSE-JI/AAAAAAAAC54/B0NpbnHh5wo/s320/marinesnow.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5355204489572055186" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;An&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 204, 204);"&gt;estimated 20 PERCENT of kelp biomass is consumed by sea urchins and enters into the recycling pathways in marine ecosystems.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;Who knows WHERE all that stuff ends up???&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/because-you-demanded-it-sea-pig-aka.html"&gt;Maybe here...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/because-you-demanded-it-sea-pig-aka.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 239px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SlFaFLshZpI/AAAAAAAAC5A/DvPUEoN6Hgk/s320/scoto2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5355160477005604498" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(from &lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/news/homepage/2007/deepchange.html"&gt;the MBARI news page&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-9069447958671015009?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/9069447958671015009/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=9069447958671015009' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/9069447958671015009'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/9069447958671015009'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/sea-urchin-poop-importance-of.html' title='Sea Urchin POOP!  The Importance of &lt;i&gt;Strongylocentrotus&lt;/i&gt; feces!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsoguykIeUI/AAAAAAAADl8/Y9pE9wrhAHo/s72-c/IMG_4337.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-1139544813101820480</id><published>2009-10-02T07:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-02T05:58:58.914-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pseudocolochirus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sea apples'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holothuroidea'/><title type='text'>SEA APPLE Video Day! Pseudocolochirus! woohoo!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;end of the week VIDEO!!!...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt; Tune in Monday for the Great Secret behind Sea Urchin POOP! 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&lt;i&gt;Pseudocolochirus!&lt;/i&gt; woohoo!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-8220374449584604140</id><published>2009-09-29T15:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-30T10:07:45.172-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Antarctica'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ophionotus victoriae'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='climate change'/><title type='text'>Antarctic Brittle Stars Can't STAND the HEAT! Really. They can't!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsKMMlZdmbI/AAAAAAAADko/liNmS9UR2jY/s1600-h/27622_large.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsKMMlZdmbI/AAAAAAAADko/liNmS9UR2jY/s320/27622_large.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5387022252113762738" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(&lt;a href="http://eol.org/pages/598344"&gt;from EOL&lt;/a&gt;) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left; color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;Today, a sobering paper I discovered regarding the thermal tolerance (i.e., how much of a temperature change can be tolerated) of the common Antarctic brittle star &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ophionotus victoriae&lt;/span&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;This post focuses on a study of the large and&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 255, 255);" href="http://peterbrueggeman.com/nsf/fguide/echinodermata11.html"&gt;commonly encountered Antarctic brittle star &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ophionotus victoriae &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;(Family &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);" href="http://www.marinespecies.org/Ophiuroidea/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&amp;amp;id=173593"&gt;Ophiuridae&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;) by&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 255, 255);" href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/72thg5723125q386/"&gt;Lloyd S. Peck, Alison Massey, Michael Thorne, and Melody Clark at the British Antarctic Survey, published this year (2009) in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Polar Biology&lt;/span&gt; 32: 399-402.&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;The authors tested the ability of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;Ophionotus &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;to respond to temperature changes over a discrete time period.  They tested and compared two test groups, by increasing the temperatures of two test groups of brittle stars in two different tanks, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);font-size:100%;" &gt;one at a +2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt;  &lt;o:documentproperties&gt;   &lt;o:template&gt;Normal&lt;/o:Template&gt;   &lt;o:revision&gt;0&lt;/o:Revision&gt;   &lt;o:totaltime&gt;0&lt;/o:TotalTime&gt;   &lt;o:pages&gt;1&lt;/o:Pages&gt;   &lt;o:characters&gt;1&lt;/o:Characters&gt;   &lt;o:company&gt;Starfish&lt;/o:Company&gt;   &lt;o:lines&gt;1&lt;/o:Lines&gt;   &lt;o:paragraphs&gt;1&lt;/o:Paragraphs&gt;   &lt;o:characterswithspaces&gt;1&lt;/o:CharactersWithSpaces&gt;   &lt;o:version&gt;10.260&lt;/o:Version&gt;  &lt;/o:DocumentProperties&gt; &lt;/xml&gt;&lt;![endif]--&gt;&lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt;  &lt;w:worddocument&gt;   &lt;w:zoom&gt;0&lt;/w:Zoom&gt;   &lt;w:displayhorizontaldrawinggridevery&gt;0&lt;/w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery&gt;   &lt;w:displayverticaldrawinggridevery&gt;0&lt;/w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery&gt;   &lt;w:usemarginsfordrawinggridorigin/&gt;  &lt;/w:WordDocument&gt; &lt;/xml&gt;&lt;![endif]--&gt;&lt;!--  /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal  {mso-style-parent:"";  margin:0in;  margin-bottom:.0001pt;  mso-pagination:widow-orphan;  font-size:12.0pt;  font-family:Times;} @page Section1  {size:8.5in 11.0in;  margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;  mso-header-margin:.5in;  mso-footer-margin:.5in;  mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1  {page:Section1;} --&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);font-family:Times;font-size:100%;"  &gt;°&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);font-size:100%;" &gt;C  and one at a +3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);font-family:Times;font-size:100%;"  &gt;°&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);font-size:100%;" &gt;C&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt; (over their ambient temperature 0.4 degrees C)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;to see how long they would survive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsKMNZRAK4I/AAAAAAAADk4/-UPnJB-vR80/s1600-h/nw-o-victoriae1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 237px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsKMNZRAK4I/AAAAAAAADk4/-UPnJB-vR80/s320/nw-o-victoriae1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5387022266036923266" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(from&lt;a href="http://peterbrueggeman.com/nsf/fguide/echinodermata11.html"&gt; the Underwater Field Guide to Ross Island &amp;amp; McMurdo Sound&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;Their results?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(51, 255, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;NONE of the animals were able to acclimate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;Their experiments showed that survival at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;+2 degrees C was about &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;double&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt; that of the +3 degrees C batch.  The threshold for this species is REALLY narrow. They can apparently handle ONLY a increase of +0.5 (from 0.4) degree C without any mortalities.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;     To quote the authors:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: rgb(51, 204, 255);"&gt;"This is possibly the poorest acclimation ability of any species on record"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;To spell this out:  &lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;These brittle stars can't stand temperature change. &lt;/span&gt;They can tolerate a water temperature change of ONLY about 0.1 degree. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;If exposed to long-term temperature increase all of their body processes start to fail&lt;/span&gt;, the same way you would if you were left in the middle of a 90 degree day in the middle of the desert&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How did this compare with other Antarctic megafauna?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt;  &lt;o:documentproperties&gt;   &lt;o:template&gt;Normal&lt;/o:Template&gt;   &lt;o:revision&gt;0&lt;/o:Revision&gt;   &lt;o:totaltime&gt;0&lt;/o:TotalTime&gt;   &lt;o:pages&gt;1&lt;/o:Pages&gt;   &lt;o:characters&gt;1&lt;/o:Characters&gt;   &lt;o:company&gt;Starfish&lt;/o:Company&gt;   &lt;o:lines&gt;1&lt;/o:Lines&gt;   &lt;o:paragraphs&gt;1&lt;/o:Paragraphs&gt;   &lt;o:characterswithspaces&gt;1&lt;/o:CharactersWithSpaces&gt;   &lt;o:version&gt;10.260&lt;/o:Version&gt;  &lt;/o:DocumentProperties&gt; &lt;/xml&gt;&lt;![endif]--&gt;&lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt;  &lt;w:worddocument&gt;   &lt;w:zoom&gt;0&lt;/w:Zoom&gt;   &lt;w:displayhorizontaldrawinggridevery&gt;0&lt;/w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery&gt;   &lt;w:displayverticaldrawinggridevery&gt;0&lt;/w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery&gt;   &lt;w:usemarginsfordrawinggridorigin/&gt;  &lt;/w:WordDocument&gt; &lt;/xml&gt;&lt;![endif]--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;Fish were the hands-down winners. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;They could apparently survive an increase of +4 degrees for periods in excess of 16 WEEKS!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsK7KRJQ0nI/AAAAAAAADlA/eXS8CXUrr8o/s1600-h/a63e782050.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 231px; height: 173px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsK7KRJQ0nI/AAAAAAAADlA/eXS8CXUrr8o/s320/a63e782050.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5387073889363874418" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Picture from &lt;a href="http://www.awi.de/en/news/press_releases/material/2007/life_below_ice_shelves/photos_for_download/"&gt;the Alfred Wegener Institut for Polar and Marine Research&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;The Antarctic &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;Odontaster validus &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;was able to withstand a heightened temperature of +6 deg. C !!(although time was not listed)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsK7K00kzFI/AAAAAAAADlI/dk5dLFH0FoQ/s1600-h/uw-ice5a.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 246px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsK7K00kzFI/AAAAAAAADlI/dk5dLFH0FoQ/s320/uw-ice5a.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5387073898940779602" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(from &lt;a href="http://peterbrueggeman.com/nsf/fguide/echinodermata3.html"&gt;the Underwater Field Guide to Ross Island&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://peterbrueggeman.com/nsf/fguide/echinodermata3.html"&gt; &amp;amp; McMurdo Sound&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;So, the implications of this study are obvious (Can you say GLOBAL WARMING?).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Its not clear why or HOW some species are more temperature resistant then others but it seems likely that they are dependent on the individual TAXON (i.e., genus, species, whatever). &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And while experiments like this should not be considered the final word, it does give some kind of barometer of capable these different species might be when facing a massive temperature change over a long period.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsLKC915QpI/AAAAAAAADlQ/hJw5vEDonHw/s1600-h/Antarctic+pix_3+017.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsLKC915QpI/AAAAAAAADlQ/hJw5vEDonHw/s320/Antarctic+pix_3+017.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5387090256597697170" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;Some taxa will be able to adapt to temperature changes better then others.  Various estimates have placed a rise of +2 deg. C over the next 100 years which is a rate FASTER then anything seen over the past million years or on record over the last glacial cycle.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;Brittle stars are a substantial part of the bottom biomass in Antarctica (and in the deep-sea). They live on and in sponges and along the bottoms. They feed on and are likely food for many species.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gradual temperature change can affect the effectiveness of feeding, reproduction, the ecology and food webs between these species will be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;substantially &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;affected. You're talking about potentially a huge cascade collapse of the primarily invertebrate ecosystem in this area.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 255);"&gt;You want delicate Antarctic animals in the balance? Forget the Penguin. Forget the Fish.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Mind the brittle stars.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsLSmYiD9WI/AAAAAAAADlY/n5DvInJXvWg/s1600-h/nw-o-victoriae2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 223px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsLSmYiD9WI/AAAAAAAADlY/n5DvInJXvWg/s320/nw-o-victoriae2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5387099661150713186" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-8220374449584604140?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/8220374449584604140/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=8220374449584604140' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/8220374449584604140'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/8220374449584604140'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/antarctic-brittle-stars-cant-stand-heat.html' title='Antarctic Brittle Stars Can&apos;t STAND the HEAT! 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They can&apos;t!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SsKMMlZdmbI/AAAAAAAADko/liNmS9UR2jY/s72-c/27622_large.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-6879897586378366072</id><published>2009-09-23T17:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-24T20:11:55.524-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pacific Northwest expedition'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deep-sea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MBARI'/><title type='text'>2009 Pacific NW Expedition: "My God Its full of Stars!" (plus rocks)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrsKa6V29bI/AAAAAAAADjI/gaER36uMvTM/s1600-h/stars.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 153px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrsKa6V29bI/AAAAAAAADjI/gaER36uMvTM/s320/stars.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384909236905375154" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrFpYJaibI/AAAAAAAADho/7YysZ0Ek6Zc/s1600-h/bowman.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 214px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrFpYJaibI/AAAAAAAADho/7YysZ0Ek6Zc/s320/bowman.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384833619122096562" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;So, if there's ONE thing I can say about this cruise?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I saw a LOT of deep-sea animals!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DEEP-SEA echinoderms!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ESPECIALLY  starfish!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, I'd say that its safe to say I've seen MORE deep-sea echinoderms (especially starfish) ALIVE on THIS single expedition then I've EVER seen on any single prior trip.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrEs2YCuJI/AAAAAAAADhI/Lt2D3EwzKww/s1600-h/brisingid-PresJackson.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 221px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrEs2YCuJI/AAAAAAAADhI/Lt2D3EwzKww/s320/brisingid-PresJackson.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384832579264493714" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I've been on over a dozen deep-sea cruises, with both trawl nets and submersibles. Cruises that use trawl nets are great for collecting more specimens but are poor on observations of the animal in its natural state.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subs, especially those which are manned, are GREAT for watching animals in their natural habitat and collecting animals in perfect condition but you ultimately don't get nearly as many specimens to study.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwoIDpJ5SI/AAAAAAAADkg/DWZLjyIu4Jc/s1600-h/100_2263.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwoIDpJ5SI/AAAAAAAADkg/DWZLjyIu4Jc/s320/100_2263.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5385223373310256418" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Remotely Operated Vehicles (ROVs), are in many ways more efficient than manned submersibles.  Everyone can participate, you don't have a fraction of the science team up on the ship waiting for the others to come back and you have lots of room for storage.  Plus, many of the newer ROVs can go much deeper then some of the older vehicles. (The &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Doc Ricketts &lt;/span&gt;can go down to ~4000 m or so)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;What sorts of  unique data can you collect exploring with submersibles that you can' t get with a trawl net?? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;1. Ecological Interactions.&lt;/span&gt; We got to see this at least twice (to my memory) but here we have an OUTSTANDING photo&lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/sept2.htm"&gt; from the northern Cleft segment of the Juan deFuca Ridge (at about 3000ish? meters) showing predation in the deep-sea&lt;/a&gt;!!   The big orange guy is the rare goniasterid &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Evoplosoma&lt;/span&gt; feeding on a Bamboo coral. You can hear the bamboo coral being eaten alive!  Muahhahaha!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr6vM4yeZI/AAAAAAAADiY/U1RQ07dRcbQ/s1600-h/05_19_31_25.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 230px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr6vM4yeZI/AAAAAAAADiY/U1RQ07dRcbQ/s320/05_19_31_25.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384891993295059346" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Evoplosoma&lt;/span&gt; is REALLY rare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;There are less then a &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;dozen specimens&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;of this animal known.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Now, not only do we know more about where it lives but we know &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;what it eats&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You wouldn't be able to really see this from trawl specimens, much less get the specimen in perfect condition. Museum specimens of this animal are pretty badly trashed by trawl nets when they are collected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Appearance of the Animal in its Natural State.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Up next...the strange "Slime Star" &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Hymenaster&lt;/span&gt;!  These pix show it alive but really don't give you the full monty of just HOW frakkin WEIRD they are..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrFAl289AI/AAAAAAAADhY/hboky7FkvB8/s1600-h/Hymenaster.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 306px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrFAl289AI/AAAAAAAADhY/hboky7FkvB8/s320/Hymenaster.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384832918428120066" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;From the side view..you can sort of pick out the thickness and the little bumps that come off the top. Plus, as a bonus, we got to see it eating!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The entire body of this animal appears to be made out of a solid gelatinous material.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDTdNZ9YI/AAAAAAAADeQ/-OXaFZNpTww/s1600-h/8821_283836420226_630500226_8944434_3065401_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDTdNZ9YI/AAAAAAAADeQ/-OXaFZNpTww/s320/8821_283836420226_630500226_8944434_3065401_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383775512337970562" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Hymenaster &lt;/span&gt;is like a jellyfish had sex with a sea star resulting in THIS thing:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwerNirIYI/AAAAAAAADjg/30pGIFrfwn8/s1600-h/100_2295.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwerNirIYI/AAAAAAAADjg/30pGIFrfwn8/s320/100_2295.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5385212982146572674" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;and yes, its HUGE!  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Almost a FOOT across!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Close up? It looks like this. See those white rods? Those are some of the endoskeleton INSIDE this thing's solid-gelatin-like body.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrEsWUCFoI/AAAAAAAADhA/HQl-qGgmp5A/s1600-h/100_2302.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrEsWUCFoI/AAAAAAAADhA/HQl-qGgmp5A/s320/100_2302.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384832570657740418" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;In a closeup shot here..you can literally see THROUGH the body into the skeleton!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrweY80ZXPI/AAAAAAAADjY/KjfA2qqduM4/s1600-h/100_2296.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrweY80ZXPI/AAAAAAAADjY/KjfA2qqduM4/s320/100_2296.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5385212668419857650" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;You can barely tell, but there's an opening here called the osculum. Where the mucus comes out!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr5mTQFifI/AAAAAAAADhw/2PausZlCsxI/s1600-h/100_2298.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr5mTQFifI/AAAAAAAADhw/2PausZlCsxI/s320/100_2298.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384890740872940018" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A strange and alien land under the sea...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of the starfish..we saw several GIANTS!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This brisingid (&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/brisingids-pt1-weird-deep-sea-halloween.html"&gt;click here&lt;/a&gt; for background on brisingid biology) starfish was&lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/sept3.htm"&gt; observed on President Jackson Seamount and was nearly TWO FEET across!!&lt;/a&gt; Some are thought to get to be almost TWICE this diameter!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrEtFL4PsI/AAAAAAAADhQ/wb87yx-Ak-g/s1600-h/bigbrisingid-PresJackson.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 210px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrEtFL4PsI/AAAAAAAADhQ/wb87yx-Ak-g/s320/bigbrisingid-PresJackson.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384832583240007362" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Not everything we saw was as big..but some were plentiful and eye-catching!  This was also on &lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/sept4.htm"&gt;President Jackson Seamount!!  A pantheon of brisingids sitting on a sponge!!!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Brisingid starfish are suspension feeders-and so sitting on rocks, sponges, and other raised perches gets them into the current they need to feed !&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrEs2YCuJI/AAAAAAAADhI/Lt2D3EwzKww/s1600-h/brisingid-PresJackson.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 221px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrEs2YCuJI/AAAAAAAADhI/Lt2D3EwzKww/s320/brisingid-PresJackson.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384832579264493714" border="0" /&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Other big things?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This&lt;/span&gt; giant astropectinid (probably &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Thrissacanthias&lt;/span&gt;) from Pioneer Seamount!  This beast was good sized as you can see!!  (Gillian used for scale!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr5muxsR3I/AAAAAAAADh4/hUah6g8rNm8/s1600-h/100_2344.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr5muxsR3I/AAAAAAAADh4/hUah6g8rNm8/s320/100_2344.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384890748261648242" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Some of what we saw was familiar....&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Poraniopsis&lt;/span&gt; from the California/Washington/Oregon coast... Species to be determined!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrEr6iZY9I/AAAAAAAADg4/2d9TnNQuCvc/s1600-h/D84-A1-Poraniopsis.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 276px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrEr6iZY9I/AAAAAAAADg4/2d9TnNQuCvc/s320/D84-A1-Poraniopsis.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384832563201795026" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;And what about NEW SPECIES???  Did we get many of those???&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Honestly, there was a HUGE number of new taxa discovered!  But for various professional reasons I can't post too many pictures of those animals here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But here's one to tantalize all of you....a new genus and species of deep-sea goniasterid sea star living on sediment at a hydrothermal vent field!!  You can see the vent clams in the background!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It doesn't look like much from a distance, but up close- its a beautiful, sexy beast!&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrFBNS6xDI/AAAAAAAADhg/j7TgXsG7N54/s1600-h/goniasterid-vent+field.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 222px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrrFBNS6xDI/AAAAAAAADhg/j7TgXsG7N54/s320/goniasterid-vent+field.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384832929014400050" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;So, what else did we see??&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  Lots of stuff!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CRINOIDS! (unstalkd and STALKED)!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr_Y4alD_I/AAAAAAAADi4/l50gFtLWR1o/s1600-h/crinoid.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr_Y4alD_I/AAAAAAAADi4/l50gFtLWR1o/s320/crinoid.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384897107400658930" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;oh yes..and &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;we saw a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt; FEW&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; brittle stars. &lt;/span&gt;But only &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;JUST &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;a few&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;HUNDREDS OF thousands...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr56l8UonI/AAAAAAAADiA/mPHvlnhxf90/s1600-h/9416_131081053060_502188060_2577957_2856091_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr56l8UonI/AAAAAAAADiA/mPHvlnhxf90/s320/9416_131081053060_502188060_2577957_2856091_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384891089487700594" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr57VKieVI/AAAAAAAADiM/qgn3LaLrBh8/s1600-h/9416_131081078060_502188060_2577962_4703361_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr57VKieVI/AAAAAAAADiM/qgn3LaLrBh8/s320/9416_131081078060_502188060_2577962_4703361_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384891102163794258" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;We saw SEA urchins!!  This particular one is an Echinothuriid which you can read about &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/27-best-deep-sea-species-10.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;here!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr_zCfWsJI/AAAAAAAADjA/BF_2lBmlRy8/s1600-h/00_10_40_18_ed.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 229px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr_zCfWsJI/AAAAAAAADjA/BF_2lBmlRy8/s320/00_10_40_18_ed.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384897556781641874" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Those of us on the cruise discovered that deep-sea echinothurid urchins can STING just like their tropical shallow-water counterparts!!  So, be careful out there!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and of course, we saw friable volcanic rocks! of MANY different varieties!!  Deep-Sea lava! Glass!  Yow!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr_X76DEAI/AAAAAAAADio/OmfAxKzrae8/s1600-h/100_2327.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr_X76DEAI/AAAAAAAADio/OmfAxKzrae8/s320/100_2327.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384897091158085634" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwkyOMswYI/AAAAAAAADjo/Xjt1dWOSav0/s1600-h/100_2329.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwkyOMswYI/AAAAAAAADjo/Xjt1dWOSav0/s320/100_2329.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5385219699651690882" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwkyR8dftI/AAAAAAAADjw/VJ27iutJ-WY/s1600-h/100_2328.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwkyR8dftI/AAAAAAAADjw/VJ27iutJ-WY/s320/100_2328.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5385219700657323730" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;We also took time to do some deep-sea pressure experiments!! Styrofoam cups to 2000-3000 meter depths change dramatically when all of the gas and porous space is crushed out of them!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr_YYQoY6I/AAAAAAAADiw/qnjAXRSyDdg/s1600-h/100_2336.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr_YYQoY6I/AAAAAAAADiw/qnjAXRSyDdg/s320/100_2336.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384897098768999330" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;But ya' know what's one thing you never run out of when you're out in the middle of the North Pacific??  &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Sunsets!!!!&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;( there's actually a&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; sunrise&lt;/span&gt; in here as well!-can you tell which one??)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr_XrxL4HI/AAAAAAAADig/2T99g5xNZbk/s1600-h/100_2310.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srr_XrxL4HI/AAAAAAAADig/2T99g5xNZbk/s320/100_2310.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384897086825947250" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwmyW-4U3I/AAAAAAAADkI/D79jhnBFXtQ/s1600-h/100_2307.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwmyW-4U3I/AAAAAAAADkI/D79jhnBFXtQ/s320/100_2307.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5385221901032903538" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwmyB21O_I/AAAAAAAADkA/cDLuyyatj64/s1600-h/100_2330.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwmyB21O_I/AAAAAAAADkA/cDLuyyatj64/s320/100_2330.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5385221895362001906" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srwmx1dTIZI/AAAAAAAADj4/H1V6HG5yDrI/s1600-h/100_2331.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Srwmx1dTIZI/AAAAAAAADj4/H1V6HG5yDrI/s320/100_2331.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5385221892033683858" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwmywcRNUI/AAAAAAAADkQ/E61wZvFZKlE/s1600-h/100_2319.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwmywcRNUI/AAAAAAAADkQ/E61wZvFZKlE/s320/100_2319.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5385221907867055426" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;...and of course you have a bunch of PhDs out on deck taking pix of those sunsets for their scientific talks!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrsLSuahGsI/AAAAAAAADjQ/e68WNVg-Zfg/s1600-h/100_2316.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrsLSuahGsI/AAAAAAAADjQ/e68WNVg-Zfg/s320/100_2316.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5384910195776363202" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;....For many of the other science team members, the return to land meant the end of the expedition.  But for many of us..the data collection and the specimen analysis will be used for analysis and study for YEARS.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Almost NOTHING (from a biodiversity POV) from this area had been known previously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and now?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Much of the preliminary on-ship study suggested that a LOT of the animals collected were new.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;New species&lt;/span&gt; and in some cases, &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;new genera&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;New behavioral observations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;New records.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The cruise is over but the discovery (and the excitement) is just beginning!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwnogFIr5I/AAAAAAAADkY/m41HvSAoiZU/s1600-h/ChrisStars_sm.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 282px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrwnogFIr5I/AAAAAAAADkY/m41HvSAoiZU/s320/ChrisStars_sm.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5385222831187996562" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-6879897586378366072?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/6879897586378366072/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=6879897586378366072' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/6879897586378366072'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/6879897586378366072'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/2009-pacific-nw-expedition-my-god-its.html' title='2009 Pacific NW Expedition: &quot;My God Its full of Stars!&quot; (plus rocks)'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrsKa6V29bI/AAAAAAAADjI/gaER36uMvTM/s72-c/stars.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-7517617340386119466</id><published>2009-09-20T21:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-21T07:04:08.254-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pacific Northwest expedition'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deep-sea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MBARI'/><title type='text'>2009 Pacific NW Expedition: What Happens Next?  Waiting &amp; Recovery!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrchLc4X0HI/AAAAAAAADgw/RjyWbEVM8PQ/s1600-h/100_2270.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrchLc4X0HI/AAAAAAAADgw/RjyWbEVM8PQ/s320/100_2270.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383808360159629426" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;So, when last we left off...the ROV &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Doc Ricketts &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;had been deployed into the depths!  We did this almost EVERY day we were out.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcF9Vg30tI/AAAAAAAADfI/qzEEmpOkRyE/s1600-h/100_2288.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcF9Vg30tI/AAAAAAAADfI/qzEEmpOkRyE/s320/100_2288.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383778430849897170" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;We were pretty much on track with the expedition for the first half of the dive. Got to see several of the targeted northern seamounts- CoAxial, and North Cleft...but weather out there can be tricky and we ended up moving south to President Jackson and then gradually down to the Northern Escanaba Trough (called NESCA) and then eventually a final day at Pioneer Seamount close to the California coast.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sno_ygcBX5I/AAAAAAAADKY/k5ATVo6hkI0/s1600-h/nw-clague2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 248px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sno_ygcBX5I/AAAAAAAADKY/k5ATVo6hkI0/s320/nw-clague2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5366672042898841490" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Most everyone, then focused their attention on the dive depending on what the priorities for the diver were that day. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDS1uVhpI/AAAAAAAADeI/pOdlcjYd6mo/s1600-h/8821_283836415226_630500226_8944433_6009890_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDS1uVhpI/AAAAAAAADeI/pOdlcjYd6mo/s320/8821_283836415226_630500226_8944433_6009890_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383775501738673810" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(photo by Soureya Becker)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;The ROV control room becomes THE Place to be during these dives and if you had any kind of science being done, it was usually in your best interest to be there for the whole duration. You can see me there on the right with my left hand on my chin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The control room is a clean dark room with lots of big "super villain base control room" type hi-resolution plasma TV screens showing input from about a dozen different cameras located on the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Doc Ricketts&lt;/span&gt; IN addition to the control monitors (many with touch-screen controls!), various control panels, joysticks, video monitors, video recording devices, and so forth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Among the control room amenities: &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;very&lt;/span&gt; comfortable First Class airplane type chairs in the back, a comfy rug,  lights off during operation, and is LITERALLY  the coolest place on the ship (because the AC needs to be on) when everything is go.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;So, what do you see? A lot of stuff like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stunning geology...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcfKvbFq4I/AAAAAAAADgo/sVoCke2SFGs/s1600-h/arches-1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 169px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcfKvbFq4I/AAAAAAAADgo/sVoCke2SFGs/s320/arches-1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383806148933954434" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(lava pillars supporting crust from a drained lava lake  f&lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/sept1.htm"&gt;rom the MBARI expedition blog&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And one amazing sponge after another!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcfKaaPOyI/AAAAAAAADgg/gxglFeHSI-Q/s1600-h/06_02_22_04_ed.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 224px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcfKaaPOyI/AAAAAAAADgg/gxglFeHSI-Q/s320/06_02_22_04_ed.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383806143293242146" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(crinoids on a "goiter" sponge &lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/sept1.htm"&gt;from the MBARI expedition log&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shown here: When I was around..we observed and collected deep-sea starfish, such as this very large and gelatinous &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Hymenaster&lt;/span&gt; (which I will talk more about later this week-but if you are impatient-y&lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/sept1.htm"&gt;ou can see the write up I wrote on the MBARI expedition log&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDTdNZ9YI/AAAAAAAADeQ/-OXaFZNpTww/s1600-h/8821_283836420226_630500226_8944434_3065401_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDTdNZ9YI/AAAAAAAADeQ/-OXaFZNpTww/s320/8821_283836420226_630500226_8944434_3065401_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383775512337970562" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(photo by Soureya Becker)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Some of my colleagues had the dazzling sense to actually take pictures of the video screen shots as they were happening!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ROV pilots used one of about 3 different devices-two mechanical arms, and a suction sampler to collect stuff onto the submersible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDTnOe95I/AAAAAAAADeY/FDmHdIW3zEc/s1600-h/8821_283836425226_630500226_8944435_4870392_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDTnOe95I/AAAAAAAADeY/FDmHdIW3zEc/s320/8821_283836425226_630500226_8944435_4870392_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383775515026847634" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(photo by Soureya Becker)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;I'll tell ya' the truth though.  NO one can sit in a completely dark room full of TVs for 10 hours straight.  Especially when you've got a lot of days that look like this outside:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcIoajqRSI/AAAAAAAADfw/GUWeWNJ2KKM/s1600-h/100_2312.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcIoajqRSI/AAAAAAAADfw/GUWeWNJ2KKM/s320/100_2312.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383781369961399586" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;...and on some days, you actually have some company.. You can barely see it, but that was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" href="http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=8143"&gt;the Woods Hole Research vessel R/V Atlantis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;  hanging off our port side aft.  and also, you occasionally  see dolphins, whales, mola molas, etc.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcJL8UhyJI/AAAAAAAADf4/RYtFgSwNQVw/s1600-h/100_2321.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcJL8UhyJI/AAAAAAAADf4/RYtFgSwNQVw/s320/100_2321.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383781980320155794" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;But ultimately, you don't NEED to be in the ROV control room all day.&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes they do "geology" when you do "biology" or othertimes, they just have other stuff going on..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"&gt;But you're out in the middle of the North Pacific with nary a shopping mall in sight!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;So what other stuff do you do?  &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Relax. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;There's always just crashing in your bunk in your very cozy stateroom. This was especially popular the first few days when motion sickness was still pretty common.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDwg4Bb-I/AAAAAAAADfA/KqSYFzY67l8/s1600-h/100_2241.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDwg4Bb-I/AAAAAAAADfA/KqSYFzY67l8/s320/100_2241.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383776011538231266" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;2.  The laundry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;The Western Flyer had state of the art laundering technology available! I used them a bunch of times!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDwFaPEZI/AAAAAAAADe4/8wGWBtoRWuY/s1600-h/100_2240.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDwFaPEZI/AAAAAAAADe4/8wGWBtoRWuY/s320/100_2240.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383776004165538194" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;3. EAT!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt; One of the most important personnel on the ship was Patrick, the steward (who is also trained as a fully trained Marine Geologist). One of the smarter personnel who found a creative way to get out to sea to observe cool rocks!&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Patrick kept breakfast, lunch and dinner ready on time every day.  I've yet to be on a research vessel that didn't have above average day to day meals and MBARI did NOT disappoint...&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcL-EQFV1I/AAAAAAAADgY/eeLoeV3LOKA/s1600-h/Patrick-640.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 231px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcL-EQFV1I/AAAAAAAADgY/eeLoeV3LOKA/s320/Patrick-640.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383785040465712978" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(photo &lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Seamounts07/logbook/June22.htm"&gt;from MBARI's 2007 Seamount expedition)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-size:85%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;4. WORK!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;       You could still get internet uploaded twice a day, image files to organize, and all sorts of other work that needed to be done.  There's a designated workspace for everyone to be busy...&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDvr0VEiI/AAAAAAAADew/SOOxJ6s8ZfY/s1600-h/100_2282.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDvr0VEiI/AAAAAAAADew/SOOxJ6s8ZfY/s320/100_2282.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383775997295661602" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Above we see Dr. Dave Clague, chief scientist conferring with Gillian-one of the biology team specialists!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDvNszTUI/AAAAAAAADeo/KBa-zySVr9g/s1600-h/100_2281.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDvNszTUI/AAAAAAAADeo/KBa-zySVr9g/s320/100_2281.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383775989211024706" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt; and here is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" href="http://deepseanews.com/"&gt;Dr. Craig McLain, writer of Deep-Sea news&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;, here working on stuff!!   blogging? writing mission reports?  Power Point presentation?  Craig worked so hard on this cruise I got tired of watching him after the first day!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;...and then the ROV Comes back!!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;       After letting the submersible pilots strap down and secure the ROV, the science teams head over to the storage compartments to inventory and take care of the rock and animal specimens collected on the trip. &lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcF9lCmAaI/AAAAAAAADfQ/oiHf40_0FSY/s1600-h/100_2325.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcF9lCmAaI/AAAAAAAADfQ/oiHf40_0FSY/s320/100_2325.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383778435017867682" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;The big box on the left is largely used for rock storage. The two boxes in the middle-for storing animals...and the cylinders on the right are push-cores which were used for taking sediment samples and anything that happened to be sitting on them...&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;There's also further storage that are out of view that will swing around on command and large bottles that are connected to the suction sampler.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Suffice it to say...if you're down at 3000 meters for 10 hours you collect a LOT of stuff..&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Here we see Chief Scientist Dave Clague recovering rock samples from the rock storage box....&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDUDagFoI/AAAAAAAADeg/j6xXVAIqxI0/s1600-h/100_2338.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcDUDagFoI/AAAAAAAADeg/j6xXVAIqxI0/s320/100_2338.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383775522593445506" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;By the time the ROV has returned, everyone knows it-and the science teams for both Biology and Geology are convened in the lab in order to prepare for processing...&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcIoCOFC0I/AAAAAAAADfo/RTohJbz-ayo/s1600-h/100_2320.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcIoCOFC0I/AAAAAAAADfo/RTohJbz-ayo/s320/100_2320.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383781363428428610" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;This includes biological samples-animal specimens. Shown being handled by MBARI technician Linda Kuhnz, a woman whom I have come to respect as having seen MORE &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Rathbunaster californicus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt; (a deep-sea starfish from Monterey Bay) video then probably ANY single living person (myself included).&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcInXBzUFI/AAAAAAAADfY/rfFU84sd9eI/s1600-h/LindaK.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 213px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcInXBzUFI/AAAAAAAADfY/rfFU84sd9eI/s320/LindaK.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383781351834210386" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Photo courtesy of the very talented Bernard Roth)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and a stalked crinoid sample being processed by Dr. Julio Harvey and the aforementioned Gillian&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcKQ0Y81sI/AAAAAAAADgI/F-MT_x5Kvzk/s1600-h/9416_131081293060_502188060_2577999_3093554_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 213px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcKQ0Y81sI/AAAAAAAADgI/F-MT_x5Kvzk/s320/9416_131081293060_502188060_2577999_3093554_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383783163602196162" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Photo courtesy of the very talented Bernard Roth)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;and of course photos of me and Dr. Harvey discussing sciencey stuff while I look over some starfish at the dissecting scope...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcIniSm1EI/AAAAAAAADfg/kU0xJiq8lfs/s1600-h/me+%26+Julio.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 213px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcIniSm1EI/AAAAAAAADfg/kU0xJiq8lfs/s320/me+%26+Julio.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383781354857485378" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Photo courtesy of the very talented Bernard Roth)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Meanwhile, the Geology team breaks down the sediment cores recovered on the cruise...&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcKQTVuMtI/AAAAAAAADgA/jwEGYZMpNJI/s1600-h/9416_131081243060_502188060_2577990_6494225_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 213px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcKQTVuMtI/AAAAAAAADgA/jwEGYZMpNJI/s320/9416_131081243060_502188060_2577990_6494225_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383783154730283730" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Photo courtesy of the very talented Bernard Roth)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;and looks at rock samples recovered from the volcanic rock formations observed on the cruise!  Many of which had critters living on them!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcKRJHaGyI/AAAAAAAADgQ/vQtjq_thLbo/s1600-h/9416_131081203060_502188060_2577983_2425917_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 213px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SrcKRJHaGyI/AAAAAAAADgQ/vQtjq_thLbo/s320/9416_131081203060_502188060_2577983_2425917_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5383783169165761314" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Photo courtesy of the very talented Bernard Roth)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Processing is always a pretty intense process, often taking several hours to get everything completely done, even with everyone involved.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;....Later this week:  We wrap up with more rocks and some STARFISH!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-7517617340386119466?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/7517617340386119466/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=7517617340386119466' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/7517617340386119466'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/7517617340386119466'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/2009-pacific-nw-expedition-what-happens.html' title='2009 Pacific NW Expedition: What Happens Next?  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COOL deep-sea TECH!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq74LFEDIpI/AAAAAAAADdo/gSR_zkhDFpw/s1600-h/100_2341.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq74LFEDIpI/AAAAAAAADdo/gSR_zkhDFpw/s320/100_2341.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381511473975730834" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);"&gt;Whew!  So, I've been back a few days now and I've been trying to catch up with my life and get all of my stuff in order since I got back from TWO weeks at sea!!&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);"&gt;I was graciously invited by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);" href="http://mcclain.nescent.org/"&gt; Craig McClain &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);"&gt;over at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(102, 0, 204);" href="http://deepseanews.com/"&gt;Deep-Sea News&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);"&gt; and geologist &lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/staff/clague/"&gt;Dave Clague at the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute&lt;/a&gt; to participate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);" href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/index_L5.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt; in Leg 5 of the 2009 Northwest Pacific  Expedition to visit seamounts off the western coast of North America!!   Both I and all the participants blogged about the highlights here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Our floating research platform was the 117 foot &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" href="http://www.mbari.org/dmo/vessels_vehicles/Western_Flyer/flyer.html"&gt;R/V Western Flyer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;, a SWATH type vessel (with twin hulls) built specifically for the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq74Bk9SPnI/AAAAAAAADdg/mX4MXoRbhCo/s1600-h/wf-300x169.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 300px; height: 169px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq74Bk9SPnI/AAAAAAAADdg/mX4MXoRbhCo/s320/wf-300x169.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381511310738603634" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;The &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Western Flyer&lt;/span&gt; acts as the operations platform for the Remotely Operated Vehicle (ROV) &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Doc Ricketts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt; which has a submersible range of up to 4000 meters depth!!  Just for scale..the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Doc Ricketts&lt;/span&gt; is about the size of a volkswagen bus!&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq722wQTQJI/AAAAAAAADdI/LqfKuDQ445o/s1600-h/100_2244.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq722wQTQJI/AAAAAAAADdI/LqfKuDQ445o/s320/100_2244.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381510025280962706" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Between August 29th to September 9th we investigated a series of seamounts in the North Pacific along the Juan de Fuca Ridge studying geology and biology of rocks and animals and made some FANTASTIC discoveries! (some of this was on the blog..but I'll touch on more of it later this week)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sno_ygcBX5I/AAAAAAAADKY/k5ATVo6hkI0/s1600-h/nw-clague2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 248px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sno_ygcBX5I/AAAAAAAADKY/k5ATVo6hkI0/s320/nw-clague2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5366672042898841490" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Today, I just thought I would share with all of you one of the inherently COOL things about working with MBARI and their maritime research vessels. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;What is unique about the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Western Flyer &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;and their research submersible is the WAY in which they deploy &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);font-size:85%;" &gt;(yes..I like to say the word deploy! How often do you ACTUALLY get to use the word DEPLOY?)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt; their submersible.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Most times, subs are just hung off the aft  (i.e., the rear) of the ship and sunk into the water.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;But NOT the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Western Flyer &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&amp;amp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Doc Ricketts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;...It just goes THOUGH the floor of the ship between the twin hulls!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;The deployment sequence goes like this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;The ROV is prepped..cameras, dohickys, hydraulics, electronics and etc. are all checked out.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq723J7NGxI/AAAAAAAADdQ/a14FHmTCLQA/s1600-h/100_2257.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq723J7NGxI/AAAAAAAADdQ/a14FHmTCLQA/s320/100_2257.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381510032171801362" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;When the ROV is ready, the various umbilicals and etc are disconnected!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7yy4PvkkI/AAAAAAAADcY/HtG1jaxR1qc/s1600-h/100_2256.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7yy4PvkkI/AAAAAAAADcY/HtG1jaxR1qc/s320/100_2256.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381505560660120130" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;HOLDING STRAPS ARE RELEASED!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7yzJ3MQoI/AAAAAAAADcg/63mjYXSLM24/s1600-h/100_2258.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7yzJ3MQoI/AAAAAAAADcg/63mjYXSLM24/s320/100_2258.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381505565388980866" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;You can tell things are getting exciting because the&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 255, 255); font-weight: bold;"&gt;BLUE &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;light is ON!!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;(things REALLY get hopping when the RED light is ALSO on!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;-sadly I didn't get a pic of the red light!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq715bBp2OI/AAAAAAAADcw/nMntVB8ywwM/s1600-h/100_2275.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq715bBp2OI/AAAAAAAADcw/nMntVB8ywwM/s320/100_2275.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381508971610364130" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Here's where things get cool...the giant cranes pick up the submersible..and then THE DOUBLE DOORS UNDER THE ROV OPEN!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7xpxLmplI/AAAAAAAADbY/IMQhxrWtfgE/s1600-h/100_2259.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7xpxLmplI/AAAAAAAADbY/IMQhxrWtfgE/s320/100_2259.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381504304633259602" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;doors are OPEN!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7xrbjgruI/AAAAAAAADbw/q6CkbZB-9Eg/s1600-h/100_2261.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7xrbjgruI/AAAAAAAADbw/q6CkbZB-9Eg/s320/100_2261.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381504333187690210" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;The cameras and such are ON and the ROV Control room (separate from the bridge) begins to receive the feed from the cameras and preps the motors (and etc.) for launch!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq74LFEDIpI/AAAAAAAADdo/gSR_zkhDFpw/s1600-h/100_2341.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq74LFEDIpI/AAAAAAAADdo/gSR_zkhDFpw/s320/100_2341.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381511473975730834" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Very large cranes then proceed to place the ROV into the water through the doors!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq8GFPDGEYI/AAAAAAAADdw/fRVLR0tTQcc/s1600-h/100_2289.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq8GFPDGEYI/AAAAAAAADdw/fRVLR0tTQcc/s320/100_2289.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381526766739657090" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;The sub is lowered into the water...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7yRQXGuuI/AAAAAAAADcA/ki2iW7UWZv0/s1600-h/100_2262.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7yRQXGuuI/AAAAAAAADcA/ki2iW7UWZv0/s320/100_2262.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381504983017896674" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7yRqNxwDI/AAAAAAAADcI/rnMF4Xqq8bc/s1600-h/100_2263.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7yRqNxwDI/AAAAAAAADcI/rnMF4Xqq8bc/s320/100_2263.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381504989958094898" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7ySPGuGNI/AAAAAAAADcQ/cNB_Wt9Obss/s1600-h/100_2264.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7ySPGuGNI/AAAAAAAADcQ/cNB_Wt9Obss/s320/100_2264.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381504999860607186" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;The ROV is connected to the ship via a VERY long tether. This is also deployed..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(255, 204, 0); font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0); font-weight: bold;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq716NFy1aI/AAAAAAAADdA/FxmVK2AkbxI/s1600-h/100_2267.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq716NFy1aI/AAAAAAAADdA/FxmVK2AkbxI/s320/100_2267.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381508985049503138" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7156Yla1I/AAAAAAAADc4/VhG6Ef5WwEs/s1600-h/100_2266.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq7156Yla1I/AAAAAAAADc4/VhG6Ef5WwEs/s320/100_2266.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381508980028042066" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq8HY6a2rOI/AAAAAAAADeA/QHDE911_XHQ/s1600-h/100_2269.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq8HY6a2rOI/AAAAAAAADeA/QHDE911_XHQ/s320/100_2269.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381528204311178466" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;The double doors are open for as long as the ROV remains deployed. This reveals the ocean surface into the docking bay as an area called the &lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 255, 255);"&gt;MOONPOOL! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;which looks like this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq723nQfx4I/AAAAAAAADdY/Z7P3uADLKlE/s1600-h/100_2273.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq723nQfx4I/AAAAAAAADdY/Z7P3uADLKlE/s320/100_2273.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381510040045733762" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Cameras on the ROV then beam back signal to the control room where the scientists and ROV pilots can manipulate, collect and do the valuable scientific work that MBARI brings to oceanographic/deep-sea research!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq74LFEDIpI/AAAAAAAADdo/gSR_zkhDFpw/s1600-h/100_2341.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq74LFEDIpI/AAAAAAAADdo/gSR_zkhDFpw/s320/100_2341.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381511473975730834" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Recovery of the ROV is pretty much the same thing but in reverse..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 204, 204);"&gt;Here's a video of how that happens (doors closing, etc)!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-1fe3ac3fe8c81a4c" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.blogger.com/img/videoplayer.swf?videoUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fvp.video.google.com%2Fvideodownload%3Fversion%3D0%26secureurl%3DqAAAAJRKzAPfu3a7ks9WIkYJqTHGaxX9BwB039LhFxNyB16FIUf543BAA0V_jsJVLbWZAWZL_y0bf971arHT47wnapDxP7xFDGBqfDJkinN28CKF9QkKAqIeAgRSDokjDIgxCueDkY1CryIWWDdUhdNagff9jrCKdkA73SJIIMpNl-Ya6T5lpv1JHvd1WlHNx7eE5XcQvV8IpYPT3XDTJ8QBzmoBF27kVkeGksZVYPcXwKxq%26sigh%3D5pycYFL6rsLPvmubfMGR3xRCflA%26begin%3D0%26len%3D86400000%26docid%3D0&amp;amp;nogvlm=1&amp;amp;thumbnailUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2FThumbnailServer2%3Fapp%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D1fe3ac3fe8c81a4c%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw320%26sigh%3DgNbOfZpcrz5YBeAh8wy0WM_mYVA&amp;amp;messagesUrl=video.google.com%2FFlashUiStrings.xlb%3Fframe%3Dflashstrings%26hl%3Den"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;embed width="320" height="266" src="http://www.blogger.com/img/videoplayer.swf?videoUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fvp.video.google.com%2Fvideodownload%3Fversion%3D0%26secureurl%3DqAAAAJRKzAPfu3a7ks9WIkYJqTHGaxX9BwB039LhFxNyB16FIUf543BAA0V_jsJVLbWZAWZL_y0bf971arHT47wnapDxP7xFDGBqfDJkinN28CKF9QkKAqIeAgRSDokjDIgxCueDkY1CryIWWDdUhdNagff9jrCKdkA73SJIIMpNl-Ya6T5lpv1JHvd1WlHNx7eE5XcQvV8IpYPT3XDTJ8QBzmoBF27kVkeGksZVYPcXwKxq%26sigh%3D5pycYFL6rsLPvmubfMGR3xRCflA%26begin%3D0%26len%3D86400000%26docid%3D0&amp;amp;nogvlm=1&amp;amp;thumbnailUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2FThumbnailServer2%3Fapp%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D1fe3ac3fe8c81a4c%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw320%26sigh%3DgNbOfZpcrz5YBeAh8wy0WM_mYVA&amp;amp;messagesUrl=video.google.com%2FFlashUiStrings.xlb%3Fframe%3Dflashstrings%26hl%3Den" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;Under good conditions, this can get pretty routine-but when you start to get a little rough weather even something relatively stereotyped like this deployment/recovery can get a little tricky... Especially since the ROV is recovered from UNDER the ship and NOT at aft!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"&gt;(for those who want to compare this sequence with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vidivodo.com/49110/aliens-drop-ship-sequence"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"&gt;the dropship launch in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"&gt;Aliens&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 51);"&gt;-click here!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After the day is done..and the sub begins its ascent..the science team waits patiently for its return!....and &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;the specimen processing and lab prep awaits!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq8HYXabuQI/AAAAAAAADd4/Mf909_JLoC8/s1600-h/100_2270.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq8HYXabuQI/AAAAAAAADd4/Mf909_JLoC8/s320/100_2270.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5381528194914171138" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 255, 51);"&gt;More later this week-critters and etc!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-947947827958641315?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/947947827958641315/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=947947827958641315' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/947947827958641315'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/947947827958641315'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/2009-pacific-nw-expedition-cool.html' title='2009 Pacific NW Expedition: ROV Deployment!! COOL deep-sea TECH!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sq74LFEDIpI/AAAAAAAADdo/gSR_zkhDFpw/s72-c/100_2341.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-5798494129868612163</id><published>2009-09-13T23:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-20T22:18:16.569-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deep-sea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='best of the echinoblog'/><title type='text'>Best of the Echinoblog digest: Deep-Sea Critters!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 153, 0);"&gt;I have been a little busy this week with catchup and post-trip stuff ,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 153, 0);" href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/index_L5.htm"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0);" href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/index_L5.htm"&gt;w&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0);" href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/index_L5.htm"&gt;hile I was away with MBARI on this expedition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 153, 0);"&gt; so here is one of my "Best of the Echinoblog" series that was&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 153, 0);"&gt; supposed&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 153, 0);"&gt;to&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 153, 0);"&gt;get posted while I was gone-but didn't! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 153, 0);"&gt;THREE &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 153, 0);"&gt;of the things below were seen on the trip!  I'll leave it up to you guys to decide which ones!  (or you could just&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);" href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/index_L5.htm"&gt;check the blog from the cruise!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The mystery of the Abyssal &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/xyloplax-pt-1-echinoderm-weirdness.html"&gt;"Sea Daisy" &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/xyloplax-pt-1-echinoderm-weirdness.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Xyloplax&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/xyloplax-pt-1-echinoderm-weirdness.html"&gt;. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/xyloplax-pt-1-echinoderm-weirdness.html"&gt; Pt. 1&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/xyloplax-pt-2-conundrums-controversies.html"&gt;Pt. 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/xyloplax-pt-1-echinoderm-weirdness.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SOKjC5hWuoI/AAAAAAAABXI/uyYLIrGh0p0/s320/MAH39.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5251939385663208066" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/brisingids-pt1-weird-deep-sea-halloween.html"&gt;Deep-sea brisingid starfish!! Weird Biology (here)&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/brisingids-pt-2-norse-godsdeep-sea.html"&gt;the stories behind their taxonomic name (here)!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/brisingids-pt1-weird-deep-sea-halloween.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SO6hcygPtQI/AAAAAAAABaQ/cF6NIC0ImvU/s320/Novodinia1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5255315331153376514" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 204, 51);font-size:85%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/05coralbanks/background/invertebrate/media/fig1.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(Novodinia antillensis&lt;/span&gt; from Ocean Explorer)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/27-best-deep-sea-species-10.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Bizarre Echinothuriid sea urchins!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/27-best-deep-sea-species-10.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SPK9xkrSHiI/AAAAAAAABb4/MSyC4mXxmAc/s320/Phormosoma.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5256472374451248674" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:85%;" &gt;(&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Phoromosa &lt;/span&gt;sp&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;, image courtesy of Dave Pawson, NMNH)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/dermechinus-horridus-trick-or-treat.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"Hellraiser" sea urchins! The horrifying mystery of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dermechinus horridus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/dermechinus-horridus-trick-or-treat.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 203px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SQjcLY8AMBI/AAAAAAAABmA/rH4E1V7JRxU/s320/Dermechinus.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262698252813217810" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:85%;" &gt;(Thanks to Dave Pawson, NMNH and NIWA for this image)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/look-at-one-of-worlds-rarest-starfish.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The World's Rarest Starfish...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SWZNdvx9fqI/AAAAAAAAB30/E421XJr2-uo/s1600-h/bottle.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 202px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SWZNdvx9fqI/AAAAAAAAB30/E421XJr2-uo/s320/bottle.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5288999985830788770" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;....and of course, &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/because-you-demanded-it-sea-pig-aka.html"&gt;SEA PIGS!!  (&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/because-you-demanded-it-sea-pig-aka.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Scotoplanes &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;spp..)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/because-you-demanded-it-sea-pig-aka.html"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/because-you-demanded-it-sea-pig-aka.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 203px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SlFd_IfEkmI/AAAAAAAAC5Y/HLLGO1GZHSA/s320/scoto1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5355164771111178850" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-sea-pigs-and-other-deep-sea-animals.html"&gt;why it is unlikely that they would be good pets....&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;And a &lt;a href="http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/more-deep-sea-cukes-swimming-sea.html"&gt;great page of deep-sea Swimming Sea Cucumber videos! (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Enypniastes&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-5798494129868612163?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/5798494129868612163/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=5798494129868612163' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/5798494129868612163'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/5798494129868612163'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/best-of-echinoblog-digest-1-deep-sea.html' title='Best of the Echinoblog digest: Deep-Sea Critters!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SOKjC5hWuoI/AAAAAAAABXI/uyYLIrGh0p0/s72-c/MAH39.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-6574265957989920784</id><published>2009-09-10T08:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-10T09:07:43.347-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pacific Northwest expedition'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MBARI'/><title type='text'>2009 Pacific NW Expedition Stuff!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sqkg_HoQ4GI/AAAAAAAADao/hZv_lNqd0Ug/s1600-h/9416_131081288060_502188060_2577998_6652626_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 213px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sqkg_HoQ4GI/AAAAAAAADao/hZv_lNqd0Ug/s320/9416_131081288060_502188060_2577998_6652626_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5379867498622541922" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(courtesy of Bernard Roth)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Greetings! and an apology to everyone!  The robot-posts didn't get uploaded due to an error on my part..so, d'oh! Hope you guys weren't too bored!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm still heading back home-but here's some pics from the trip!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Leaving Newport, Oregon...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SqkgFsoXLQI/AAAAAAAADaY/Jcbn8a4YCvA/s1600-h/100_2254.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SqkgFsoXLQI/AAAAAAAADaY/Jcbn8a4YCvA/s320/100_2254.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5379866512122653954" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The Remotely Operated Vehicle &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Doc Ricketts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SqkgFP-uO9I/AAAAAAAADaQ/Yq9kAP8Mq_4/s1600-h/100_2256.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SqkgFP-uO9I/AAAAAAAADaQ/Yq9kAP8Mq_4/s320/100_2256.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5379866504431811538" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SqkiwYEf3HI/AAAAAAAADaw/ZAHVlIS16pQ/s1600-h/100_2244.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SqkiwYEf3HI/AAAAAAAADaw/ZAHVlIS16pQ/s320/100_2244.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5379869444361149554" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A huge brisingid sea star (probably &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Hymenodiscus) &lt;/span&gt;measuring almost 60 centimeters (about two feet!) in diameter!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SqkgZhl9reI/AAAAAAAADag/t3p-x7ADfI0/s1600-h/01_02_45_06.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 210px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SqkgZhl9reI/AAAAAAAADag/t3p-x7ADfI0/s320/01_02_45_06.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5379866852757188066" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;(from &lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/sept3.htm"&gt;the Expedition website&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Experiments in deep-sea pressure effects!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SqkkKwpaa2I/AAAAAAAADa4/8E1MjSf6zRk/s1600-h/100_2336.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SqkkKwpaa2I/AAAAAAAADa4/8E1MjSf6zRk/s320/100_2336.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5379870997146659682" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will post a bit more when I am home (and have a better internet connection)!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-6574265957989920784?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/6574265957989920784/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=6574265957989920784' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/6574265957989920784'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/6574265957989920784'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/2009-pacific-nw-expedition-stuff.html' title='2009 Pacific NW Expedition Stuff!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sqkg_HoQ4GI/AAAAAAAADao/hZv_lNqd0Ug/s72-c/9416_131081288060_502188060_2577998_6652626_n.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-7102240072308722153</id><published>2009-08-26T16:56:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-26T17:15:25.657-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deep-sea'/><title type='text'>One for the road...</title><content type='html'>So..next week, I will be off to &lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/index_L5.htm"&gt;an expedition with MBARI in the North Pacific Ocean &lt;/a&gt;where I will be blogging with &lt;a href="http://deepseanews.com/"&gt;Dr. Craig McClain from Deep-Sea News&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Echinoblog will be on autopilot with a "Best of the Echinoblog" series...with&lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/index_L5.htm"&gt; a link to the MBARI Leg 5 daily blog! &lt;/a&gt; (which will be updated daily-sometimes by me!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the meantime, courtesy of &lt;a href="http://neptunecanada.ca/"&gt;Neptune Canada&lt;/a&gt;, here's a cool video of ophiuroids (looks like&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Ophiura&lt;/span&gt;) feeding!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="340" width="560"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/4Texm2eTmSc&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4Texm2eTmSc&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="340" width="560"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and a deep-sea bottom community, including crinoids and other deep-sea critters!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="340" width="560"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/eGjup3DYyMY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/eGjup3DYyMY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="340" width="560"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-7102240072308722153?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/7102240072308722153/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=7102240072308722153' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/7102240072308722153'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/7102240072308722153'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/so.html' title='One for the road...'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-767097747285308220</id><published>2009-08-26T10:00:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-26T16:55:36.749-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='field expeditions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deep-sea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MBARI'/><title type='text'>2009 Pacific NW Expedition!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Next week.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sno_y2YLcrI/AAAAAAAADKg/yKTX_mmsChE/s1600-h/1.png"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 339px; height: 146px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sno_y2YLcrI/AAAAAAAADKg/yKTX_mmsChE/s320/1.png" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5366672048788304562" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;My good buddy Craig M over &lt;a href="http://deepseanews.com/"&gt;at Deep Sea News &lt;/a&gt;and I will be participating in &lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/index_L5.htm"&gt;Leg 5 of the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute's Expedition to the Pacific Northwest!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/index_L5.htm"&gt; &lt;/a&gt; Craig sez it better then me:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Leg 5 of the expedition focuses on sampling lava flows&lt;span&gt; that erupted during historic time on the Juan de Fuca and Gorda Mid-Ocean Ridges, and comparing them with the surrounding, older flows.  Chris and I will be leading the biological sampling focusing on how the communities on older flows vary from those younger flows.  We will be trying to address questions such as: How much time is required for a deep-sea community to form? As lava flows become older do the provide new habitats for organisms? How do the species found at volcanic ridges compare to the surrounding seamounts?  Overall a great trip.&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; You can follow Chris and I &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/index_L5.htm"&gt;through daily posts &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;and pinpoint our daily location.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Here is roughly where we'll be (departing from Newport, Oregon):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sno_ygcBX5I/AAAAAAAADKY/k5ATVo6hkI0/s1600-h/nw-clague2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 248px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sno_ygcBX5I/AAAAAAAADKY/k5ATVo6hkI0/s320/nw-clague2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5366672042898841490" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;...and hopefully THIS is what we'll be seeing!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sno_yrFoCxI/AAAAAAAADKQ/gz_W3ssQZbk/s1600-h/T663_08_14_26_11.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 216px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sno_yrFoCxI/AAAAAAAADKQ/gz_W3ssQZbk/s320/T663_08_14_26_11.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5366672045757696786" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I will be keeping an &lt;a href="http://www.mbari.org/expeditions/Northern09/L5/index_L5.htm"&gt;account via MBARI's blog here.&lt;/a&gt;   and when I get back, all of my experience will be dumped onto you guys like a bad sofa on the street corner!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-767097747285308220?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/767097747285308220/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=767097747285308220' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/767097747285308220'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/767097747285308220'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/my-good-buddy-craig-m-over-at-deep-sea.html' title='2009 Pacific NW Expedition!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sno_y2YLcrI/AAAAAAAADKg/yKTX_mmsChE/s72-c/1.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-1725342849313306802</id><published>2009-08-25T19:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-25T20:35:11.505-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='larvae'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pycnopodia helianthoides'/><title type='text'>Pycnopodia Juvenile Stage Has Arrived!!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;August 28th-UPDATED by Allison Gong:&lt;/span&gt; SEE the new pic at the bottom&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt; in Green!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZ17OGzLI/AAAAAAAACnU/cYuLHch8IpA/s1600-h/pycnopodia-2adults.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZ17OGzLI/AAAAAAAACnU/cYuLHch8IpA/s320/pycnopodia-2adults.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5338764297491631282" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;My colleague &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 204, 255);" href="http://www.ic.ucsc.edu/%7Eajgong/Bio122/Home.html"&gt;Dr. Allison Gong at the UC Santa Cruz Long Marine Laboratory&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 255);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;recently had the fortune to observe the spawning and early larval development of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;Pycnopodia helianthoides&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;-the sunflower star one of my favorite animals!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZ1j-imPI/AAAAAAAACnM/1MJKrwH1QQ4/s1600-h/allisongong.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 220px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZ1j-imPI/AAAAAAAACnM/1MJKrwH1QQ4/s320/allisongong.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5338764291252328690" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(This and all pictures courtesy of Allison Gong, UCSC)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;Info and the comments below are graciously provided by her (seen above in her natural habitat)!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;And we're back!! New updates on the transformation sequence of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Pycnopodia helianthoides&lt;/span&gt; courtesy of Dr. Allison Gong at UCSC!  (scroll to bottom to see!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;Apparently the gametes collected were produced by these hefty beasts on display at the Seymour Center. There are four in the aquarium.  Each one may be either the mother or the father of these larvae.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZ17OGzLI/AAAAAAAACnU/cYuLHch8IpA/s1600-h/pycnopodia-2adults.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 240px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZ17OGzLI/AAAAAAAACnU/cYuLHch8IpA/s320/pycnopodia-2adults.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5338764297491631282" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(This and all pictures courtesy of Allison Gong, UCSC)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;Allison says:  "This is a 3-day-old early &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(0, 204, 204);" href="http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/177910/echinoderm/25734/Development"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;dipleurula larva&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;. It is basically a ciliated blob with an invagination in the flattened posterior end. The internal tube and knob structures are the developing larval gut.&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZt5-CWNI/AAAAAAAACnE/W485N0bv5bo/s1600-h/4210_1146967481353_1442533269_30372216_5909322_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 242px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZt5-CWNI/AAAAAAAACnE/W485N0bv5bo/s320/4210_1146967481353_1442533269_30372216_5909322_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5338764159716841682" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(This and all pictures courtesy of Allison Gong, UCSC)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left; color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;Allison says: "This photo is essentially the same thing, photographed under dark-field conditions for a rather cool effect."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShfzZE2qzHI/AAAAAAAACnk/UAVrEvbZuvw/s1600-h/4210_1146967521354_1442533269_30372217_830001_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 287px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShfzZE2qzHI/AAAAAAAACnk/UAVrEvbZuvw/s320/4210_1146967521354_1442533269_30372217_830001_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5339003495396330610" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(This and all pictures courtesy of Allison Gong, UCSC)&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);font-size:130%;" &gt;A neat black and white shot...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZt_-k_BI/AAAAAAAACm8/u6VnM2aFDNg/s1600-h/4210_1147374251522_1442533269_30373232_6297064_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 286px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZt_-k_BI/AAAAAAAACm8/u6VnM2aFDNg/s320/4210_1147374251522_1442533269_30373232_6297064_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5338764161329724434" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(This and all pictures courtesy of Allison Gong, UCSC)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);font-size:130%;" &gt;Two More!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZtsPb-ZI/AAAAAAAACm0/qcCo2RtqhgY/s1600-h/4210_1147374291523_1442533269_30373233_4791077_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 256px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZtsPb-ZI/AAAAAAAACm0/qcCo2RtqhgY/s320/4210_1147374291523_1442533269_30373233_4791077_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5338764156031728018" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(This and all pictures courtesy of Allison Gong, UCSC)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;UPDATE Ladies and Gentlemen, we have BIPINNARIA!!!  (an intermediate larval stage of starfish)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left; color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SiKdzCwocdI/AAAAAAAACsU/ifyqlqZd6I8/s1600-h/4210_1151652598478_1442533269_30386749_772700_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 267px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SiKdzCwocdI/AAAAAAAACsU/ifyqlqZd6I8/s320/4210_1151652598478_1442533269_30386749_772700_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5342005608254566866" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;Sez Allison: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;"These guys sure don't develop as quickly as urchins! At 14 days, the larva has reach a stage called the bipinnaria. It's sort of a more elaborate version of the dipleurula. In this ventral view, you can see the stomach quite clearly as the darkish ovoid shape in the bottom part."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SiKdzR8xWAI/AAAAAAAACsc/4Y6GbnNsFy4/s1600-h/4210_1151652638479_1442533269_30386750_3806234_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 256px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SiKdzR8xWAI/AAAAAAAACsc/4Y6GbnNsFy4/s320/4210_1151652638479_1442533269_30386750_3806234_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5342005612332013570" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;"Here's a left-side view of a different larva at the same stage. These guys are really transparent, and it's hard to get a feel for their three-dimensional structure because the camera focuses on a single plane."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left; color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SiKdznJi2bI/AAAAAAAACsk/gEWc5x7wKS0/s1600-h/4210_1151652678480_1442533269_30386751_5300602_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 271px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SiKdznJi2bI/AAAAAAAACsk/gEWc5x7wKS0/s320/4210_1151652678480_1442533269_30386751_5300602_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5342005618022734258" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;"These guys happened to swim under the objective lens at the same time, so I snapped a shot of them. In this photo you're getting both a ventral and a dorso-lateral view."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Si8zVsPM84I/AAAAAAAACvI/9-HiMUHmMoA/s1600-h/4701_1156090509423_1442533269_30399531_7437910_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 265px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Si8zVsPM84I/AAAAAAAACvI/9-HiMUHmMoA/s320/4701_1156090509423_1442533269_30399531_7437910_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5345547730457260930" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;10 June 2009-Allison Sez:  These larvae are growing so slowly!  I'm used to things happening more quickly.  Oh well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;This is a ventral (front) view of a 22-day-old bipinnaria larva. The internal ovoid structure in the lower half is the stomach, with dark food cell visible inside. &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;Here's a trick to "seeing" the 3-dimensional structure in a 2-d photo: Imagine a capital letter 'c' and rotate it 90 degrees along its vertical axis. You're now looking into the "opening" of the 'c', right? That's exactly the view of this larva. The roughly triangular object on the top and the squarish object on the bottom correspond to the ends of the 'c'. Confusing, isn't it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Si8zVj51-yI/AAAAAAAACvA/7r8IGfVYVWM/s1600-h/4701_1156090549424_1442533269_30399532_7548005_n.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 281px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Si8zVj51-yI/AAAAAAAACvA/7r8IGfVYVWM/s320/4701_1156090549424_1442533269_30399532_7548005_n.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5345547728220191522" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;Okay, here's a nice lateral view. The gut is nicely visible in this picture. You can see the elongated esophagus and the sphincter where it meets the stomach. You are looking at the larva's left side, with its anterior end up and its posterior end down.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SllSpeCVUuI/AAAAAAAAC9o/gRVLwXGMdfo/s1600-h/29d+bipinnaria.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 248px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SllSpeCVUuI/AAAAAAAAC9o/gRVLwXGMdfo/s320/29d+bipinnaria.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5357404104124879586" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;Bipinnaria larvae reaches the 29 day stage!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sez Allison: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;We had a near miss late last week and lost about half of the larvae. I think maybe they didn't like the food we were giving them. We've altered the diet and the remaining larvae seem happy, although some of them may be arrested at an early stage of development.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;This individual was the most advanced of all the larvae I observed today. At 29 days it is starting to develop little nubbins that may grow into long brachiolar arms--at least, I hope they do!--and measures 850 microns in length.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SllSpyHb-hI/AAAAAAAAC9w/MhMwPyokqKg/s1600-h/49d+bipinnaria.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 209px; height: 320px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SllSpyHb-hI/AAAAAAAAC9w/MhMwPyokqKg/s320/49d+bipinnaria.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5357404109514996242" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sez Allison:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;This larva, at the ripe old age of 49 days, has reached the brachiolaria stage. It measures a whopping 1.5 mm long! The gut is a golden color because we've been feeding them a mixture of green algae and diatoms.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);" id="photocaption"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The simple band in the earlier stages has been elaborated into pointy little nubbins called brachiolar arms. In other species, such as &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Pisaster ochraceus&lt;/span&gt;, the arms get really long; I don't know how long they'll get in these &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0); font-style: italic;"&gt;Pycnopodia &lt;/span&gt;larvae. We'll have to wait and see.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SllSpxMe9mI/AAAAAAAAC94/kIpTpBpRiz8/s1600-h/55d+bipinnaria.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 297px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SllSpxMe9mI/AAAAAAAAC94/kIpTpBpRiz8/s320/55d+bipinnaria.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5357404109267727970" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sez Allison:&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;Whoa. Huge progress made in the last week! The larvae are 55 days old now and have *finally* started growing the long arms we've been expecting for weeks. I shot this photo through my Wild dissecting scope to get the cool effect of a dark background. Couldn't entirely get rid of the unwanted glare, though. Oh well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SllSqDo4LHI/AAAAAAAAC-A/h5S9pt5DHVY/s1600-h/55d+bipinnaria:wstomach.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 303px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SllSqDo4LHI/AAAAAAAAC-A/h5S9pt5DHVY/s320/55d+bipinnaria:wstomach.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5357404114218658930" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sez Allison:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;Here's a closer shot of the same larva.  The brownish structure in the bottom of the larva is its stomach.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SmzoJJgkt1I/AAAAAAAADD0/KOBqxiG5hco/s1600-h/66d.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 230px; height: 320px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SmzoJJgkt1I/AAAAAAAADD0/KOBqxiG5hco/s320/66d.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5362916500160427858" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;From Allison: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt; Isn't this gorgeous? At 66 days (7 weeks and counting) the larvae have reached the advanced bracholaria stage. The arms are longer and the larvae wave them as they swim around. These guys are still feeding, although they haven't grown much. It looks like they max out at about 1.5 mm in length. This particular larva may not be entirely competent (i.e., ready to metamorphose) yet, but it's getting close.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SmzoJb93XlI/AAAAAAAADD8/SzlQJ6uqWq8/s1600-h/settlement.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 214px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SmzoJb93XlI/AAAAAAAADD8/SzlQJ6uqWq8/s320/settlement.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5362916505115123282" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;SETTLEMENT!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;From Allison:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;  Ta-dah! One larva has begun the process of metamorphosis. It has attached itself to a small piece of mussel shell with some suckers on the anterior end. The round structure you see at the top of the animal is the juvenile rudiment, or the earliest stage of the juvenile body, containing the water vascular system's first 5 tube feet. You can see that the brachiolar arms are still there. At this point the critter can no longer feed, as it completely re-arranges its entire body, and survives on energy reserves it put away as a feeding larva.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;I never get tired of watching this kind of metamorphosis, in stars or urchins. It's the coolest thing out there. In a matter of a few days the animal transforms from a bilateral swimming creature to a pentaradial crawling beast, with a full scale re-arrangement of its external and internal anatomy. Larval parts will be resorbed or discarded, and new juvenile structures will be formed. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 204, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;Amazing, isn't it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sm5-uIGWs-I/AAAAAAAADEE/ukW4jTB5DBY/s1600-h/settlement1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sm5-uIGWs-I/AAAAAAAADEE/ukW4jTB5DBY/s320/settlement1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5363363537158058978" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;From Allison:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;  A star is born! The little guy we've been monitoring, seen here in side view, has completed metamorphosis, and as far as I can tell is doing fine. All of the larval body has been resorbed now, and the critter is a little round disc with tube feet and spines. It's not very active right now but I think that's because it's recovering from the trauma of metamorphosis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div id="phototags"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sm5-uWySTxI/AAAAAAAADEM/3Kgl9FVGJmk/s1600-h/settlement2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/Sm5-uWySTxI/AAAAAAAADEM/3Kgl9FVGJmk/s320/settlement2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5363363541100416786" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;From Allison:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt; I tried to get a better view of the aboral (i.e., top) surface but immediately lost contrast because the baby star is almost the same color as the bit of mussel shell it's sitting on. At least in this view you can see that it's radial now. Quite a change from the bilateral larva it was a week ago, isn't it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);"&gt;I think these new juveniles will fast for a number of weeks, living on energy reserves they packed away while they were feeding larvae. It remains to be seen whether or not we can figure out what to feed these tiny guys, but we'll try to keep them going and will hopefully be able to document how all of the arms develop. Remember, these stars have ~20 arms as adults, although they start out with the requisite echinoderm 5, and we're interested in seeing if there's a pattern to how all the arms form.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SpSscuY1ZPI/AAAAAAAADaI/Nj5O1MSk_4k/s1600-h/juvie-pycno.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 288px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/SpSscuY1ZPI/AAAAAAAADaI/Nj5O1MSk_4k/s320/juvie-pycno.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5374109864848352498" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 102, 0);"&gt;One month later (Aug 28th)- We finally see the settled juvenile growing into the multi-armed form we know and love!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 0);"&gt;  Interesting that they get to the multi-armed stage so quickly...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-1725342849313306802?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/1725342849313306802/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=1725342849313306802' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/1725342849313306802'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/1725342849313306802'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/weekend-special-pycnopodia-larvae-watch.html' title='&lt;i&gt;Pycnopodia&lt;/i&gt; Juvenile Stage Has Arrived!!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L3sNLmoKUl4/ShcZ17OGzLI/AAAAAAAACnU/cYuLHch8IpA/s72-c/pycnopodia-2adults.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3433304117507034540.post-8202709420229445736</id><published>2009-08-21T10:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-21T11:08:22.567-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='video'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Crinoidea'/><title type='text'>Friday Crinoid Video Spectacular!</title><content type='html'>So..I am still preparing for the cruise next week...so here's videos about crinoids!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Something REALLY special...a brittle star living ON a crinoid... look closely at the dark, black thing humped over the center. (the crinod is red-ophiuroid is black)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="340" width="560"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5NEz97jSCmA&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5NEz97jSCmA&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="340" width="560"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dense crinoid forests from the Monterey Bay Marine Sanctuary in California!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fQFa9SKzTkA&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fQFa9SKzTkA&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Swimming Antarctic Crinoids &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/s-vF79ykbkY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/s-vF79ykbkY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Pretty nice video of a swimming crinoid in the Philippines...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_BJy98aplkU&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_BJy98aplkU&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3433304117507034540-8202709420229445736?l=echinoblog.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/feeds/8202709420229445736/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3433304117507034540&amp;postID=8202709420229445736' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/8202709420229445736'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3433304117507034540/posts/default/8202709420229445736'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://echinoblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/friday-crinoid-video-spectacular.html' title='Friday Crinoid Video Spectacular!'/><author><name>ChrisM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11784970666468925633</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='11905167990616162767'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry></feed>