forelmashi

lol hah

2007-06-28T21:17:00.000-07:00

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anyone know any songs

2007-06-26T17:20:00.000-07:00

like this one?

emo ftw :p =) lol they play it on the radio pretty often

Apologetics is too funny

2007-06-25T12:53:00.001-07:00

Kant is definitely going on my summer reading list

changes

2007-06-24T19:29:00.000-07:00

The God Delusion

2007-06-22T10:47:00.000-07:00

So wcreplays (I like live on here lol) had a thread about Richard Dawkins' The God Deluion

I dunno.. it seems to be really popular, but the people it seems to be popular with are these mindless hardcore atheists who just spit one-sided stuff they hear back out...a trait I find contemptible in their opposite counter-parts as well.

I've only read the wikipedia summary and I know that is NOT reliable but just with a general idea I never got interested in it.. I feel like he is making stuff up to support his point(but I'm probably being unfair just cause I don't agree lol)

For example, from wikipedia:

[The roots of morality: why are we good?

In chapter 6, Dawkins turns his attention to the subject of morality, arguing that we do not need religion in order to be good. (I agree)Instead, he maintains that our morality has a Darwinian explanation: altruistic genes have been selected through the process of our evolution, and we possess a natural empathy. (lol WHAT ON EARTH)

Yeah if he wasn't like "well known" I might publicly laugh at his ideas some more but WHO KNOWS MAYBE HE'S RIGHT? But probably not. Most likely not.

BTW, on a kind-of somewhat related subject, I recommend Goleman's Emotional Intelligence - a classic

humaneness

2007-06-18T21:12:00.000-07:00

so I saw this featured blog on the front page:

http://www.xanga.com/Ian24601/597314098/a-world-worth-fighting-for.html

quote: "Hemingway was wrong when he said the world is a fine place. It’s rotten and sick. "

Sad. But at least the 'worth fighting for' part redeems it in my mind.

And sometimes it is the most unfortunate of all, the ones who most suffer that are able to see the beauty, while the ones who recite "count your blessings" forget to put it into practice.

The habit of seeing the world as bad and ugly makes the world bad and ugly.

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337 The "humaneness" of the future -
When I contemplate the present age with the eyes of some remote age, I can find nothing more remarkable in present-day humanity than its distinctive virtue and disease which goes by the name of "the historical sense." This is the beginning of something altogether new and strange in history: If this seed should be given a few centuries and more, it might ultimately become a marvelous growth with an equally marvelous scent that might make our old earth more agreeable to live on. We of the present day are only just beginning to form the chain of a very powerful feeling, link for link-we hardly know what we are doing. It almost seems to us as if it were not a matter of a new feeling rather a decrease in all old feelings; the historical sense is still so poor and cold, and many people are attacked by it as by frost and made still poorer and colder. To others it appears as a sign of stealthily approaching old age, and they see our planet as a melancholy invalid who wants to forget its present condition and therefore writes the history of his youth, of a lover deprived of his beloved, of the martyr whose ideal is perishing, of the hero after a battle that has decided nothing but brought him wounds and the loss of his friend. But if one endured, if one could this immense sum of grief of all kinds while yet being the hero who, as the second day of battle breaks, welcomes the dawn and his fortune, being a person whose horizon encompasses thousands of years past and future, being the heir of all the nobility of all past spirit-an heir with a sense of obligation, the most aristocratic of all old nobles and at the same time the first of a new nobility-the like of which no age has yet seen or dreamed of; if one could burden one's soul with all of this- the oldest, the newes, losses, hopes, conquests, and the victories of humanity; if one could finally contain all this in one soul and crowd it into a single feeling- this would surely have to result in a happiness that humanity has not known so far: the happiness of a god full of power and love, full of tears and laughter, a happiness that, like the sun in the evening, continually bestows its inexhaustible riches, pouring them into the sea, feeling richest, as the sun does, only when even the poorest fisherman is still rowing with golden oars! This godlike feeling would then be called-humaneness.

Long Live Physics

2007-06-16T22:17:00.000-07:00

"How many people know how to observe something? Of the few who do—how many observe themselves? "Everybody is farthest away from himself;" all who try the reins know this to their chagrin; and the maxim "know thyself!" addressed to human beings by a god, is almost malicious. That the case of self-observation is indeed as desperate as that is attested best of all by the manner in which almost everybody talks about the essence of moral actions, this quick, eager, convinced, and garrulous manner with its expression, its smile, and its obliging ardor! One seems to have the wish to say to you: "But my dear friend, precisely this is my specialty! You have directed your question to the one person who is entitled to answer you: as it happens, there is nothing about which I am as wise about as this. To come to the point: when a human being judges 'this is right' and then infers 'therefore it must be done!' and then proceeds to do what he has thus recognized as right and designated as necessary,—then the essence of his action is moral."

But my friend, you are speaking of three actions instead of one: when you judge "this is right," that is an action, too,—might it not be possible that one could judge in a moral and in an immoral manner? Why do you consider this, precisely this, right?—

"Because this is what my conscience tells me; and the voice of conscience is never immoral, for it alone determines what is to be moral!"—

But why do you listen to the voice of your conscience? And what gives you the right to consider such a judgment true and infallible? For this faith—is there no conscience for that? Have you never heard of an intellectual conscience? A conscience behind your "conscience"? Your judgment "that is right" has a prehistory in your instincts, likes, dislikes, experiences, and lack of experiences. "How did it originate there?" you must ask, and then also: "What is it that impels me to listen to it?" You can listen to its commands like a good soldier who hears his officer's command. Or like a woman who loves the man who commands. Or like a flatterer and coward who is afraid of the commander. Or like a dunderhead who obeys because no objection occurs to him. In short, there are a hundred ways in which you can listen to your conscience. But that you take this or that judgment for the voice of conscience, in other words, that you feel something to be right, may be due to the fact that you have never thought much about yourself and simply have accepted blindly that what you had been told ever since your childhood was right: or it may be due to the fact that what you call your duty has up to this point brought you sustenance and honors,—and you consider it "right" because it appears to you as your own "condition of existence" (and that you have a right to existence seems irrefutable to you!).

For all that, the firmness of your moral judgment could be evidence of your personal abjectness, of impersonality, your "moral strength" might have its source in your stubbornness—or in your inability to envisage new ideals. And, briefly: if you had thought more subtly, observed better, and learned more, you certainly would not go on calling this "duty" of yours and this "conscience" of yours duty and conscience: your understanding of the manner in which moral judgments have originated would spoil these grand words for you, just as other grand words like "sin," "salvation of the soul," and "redemption" have been spoiled for you.— And now don't cite the categorical imperative, my friend!—this term tickles my ear and makes me laugh despite your serious presence: it makes me think of old Kant who had obtained the "thing in itself" by stealth—another very ridiculous thing!—and was punished for this when the "categorical imperative" crept stealthily into his heart and led him astray back to "God," "soul," "freedom," and "immortality," like a fox who loses his way and goes astray back into his cage:—yet it had been his strength and cleverness that had broken open the cage!

What? You admire the categorical imperative within you? This "firmness" of your so-called moral judgment? This "unconditional" feeling that "here everyone must judge as I do"? Rather admire your selfishness at this point! And the blindness, pettiness, and frugality of your selfishness! For it is selfish to experience one's own judgment as a universal law; and this selfishness is blind, petty, and frugal because it betrays that you have not yet discovered yourself nor created for yourself an ideal of your own, your very own:—for that could never belong to somebody else and much less to all, to all!

Anyone who still judges "in this case everybody would have to act like this" has not yet taken five steps toward self-knowledge: otherwise he would know that there neither are nor can be actions that are the same,—that every action that has ever been done was done in an altogether unique and irretrievable way, and that this will be true of every future action,—that all regulations about actions relate only to their coarse exterior (and even the most inward and subtle regulations of all moralities so far),—that these regulations may lead to some semblance of sameness, but really only to some semblance,—that as one contemplates or looks back upon any action at all, it is and remains impenetrable,—that our opinions about "good," "noble," "great" can never be proved true by our actions because every action is unknowable,—that our opinions, valuations, and tables of what is good certainly belong among the most powerful levers in the involved mechanism of our actions, but that in any particular case the law of their mechanism is indemonstrable.

Let us therefore limit ourselves to the purification of our opinions and valuations and to the creation of our own new tables of values:—and let us stop brooding about the "moral value of our actions"! Yes, my friends, regarding all the moral chatter of some about others it is time to feel nauseous! Sitting in moral judgment should offend our taste! Let us leave such chatter and such bad taste to those who have nothing else to do but drag the past a few steps further through time and who never live in the present,—which is to say the many, the great majority! We, however, want to become who we are,—the new, unique, incomparable ones, who give themselves their own laws, who create themselves! And to that end we must become the best learners and discoverers of everything that is lawful and necessary in the world: we must become physicists in order to be able to be creators in this sense,—while hitherto all valuations and ideals have been based on ignorance of physics or were constructed so as to contradict it. Therefore: long live physics! And even more so that which compels us to turn to physics,—our honesty!"

note: physics meaning, anti-metaphysics.

how fast can your pc calc. pi??

2007-06-16T12:51:00.000-07:00

http://www.xtremesystems.com/pi/super_pi_mod-1.5.zip

calculate 1 million digits of pi and see what you get!

took my slow comp 3 min 3 seconds :p

ima look up how the algorithm works later

funny fox news blooper

2007-06-16T12:23:00.000-07:00

btw, i am really getting ready to uninstall aim.. i finally got rid of this 'active update' thing that kept popping up with a help of google search and this forum but like seriously..

What I Dislike, #1?

2007-06-13T12:24:00.000-07:00

I dislike having to explain my jokes and say "I wasn't serious," especially since it was my intention to be subtle all along. It is not half as humorous when the joker needs to state that he was joking; but to be misunderstood - this is far worse.

And it was not until the last year or two I learned that my "ironic humor," which is what I called it for lack of a name and what others may call "sarcasm," has this funny phrase that people use to describe it: "tongue-in-cheek."

It's quite unfortunate that the dead are not here to say they were joking.

why is nature right-handed?

2007-06-04T15:23:00.000-07:00

So cross products and magnetic forces really bug me... why is nature right-handed? why shouldn't it be left-handed? What makes it right? At least it's observed to be so, but i still dislike being given something without the reasons why lol. the professor just said even senior level physics students don't discuss this and it has to do with relativity and magnetism and he gave me an author to read lol.

Into My Own

2007-05-28T23:56:00.000-07:00

One of my wishes is that those dark trees,
So old and firm they scarcely show the breeze,
Were not, as 'twere, the merest mask of gloom,
But stretched away unto the edge of doom.
I should not be withheld but that some day
Into their vastness I should steal away,
Fearless of ever finding open land,
Or highway where the slow wheel pours the sand.
I do not see why I should e'er turn back,
Or those should not set forth upon my track
To overtake me, who should miss me here
And long to know if still I held them dear.
They would not find me changed from him they knew-
Only more sureof all I thought was true.

so i really enjoy

2007-05-24T12:34:00.001-07:00

the few xanga posts i get in my email. here's another one they always seem to come from the same persons :p maybe i ought to go subscribe to more people.

i'm beginning to wonder if this blog even has any readers lol, as google's analytics isn't compatible with google's blogger. but i know forelmashi.com gets quite a bit so i guess it's safe to assume this page has a little at least. i think? and i'm not boring myself so i also think it's safe to assume i'm not boring EVERYONE. right? lawl.

Add lies- When people in France began to attack the Aristotelian unities and others therefore began to defend them, one could see once again what is to be seen so often but what people hate to see: one lied, mendaciously inventing reasons for these laws, simply to avoid admitting that one had become used to these laws and no longer wanted things to be different. The same process occurs, and always has occurred, in every prevalent morality and religion: the reasons and purposes for habits are always lies that are added only after some people begin to attack these habits and to ask for reasons and purposes. At this point the conservatives of all ages are thoroughly dishonest: they add lies.

A 'relational God.' How many of the same and new problems from this!

wordpress is sooooooo

2007-05-23T23:56:00.000-07:00

much nicer than blogger. i'm going to fix the template/layout stuff when i'm not lazy. using it for my revived warcraft blog. so teacher gave mercy points on the test. wrote down some BS and got at 10 and 13 points respectively out of 25. way better than the 0 that i should have gotten haha. so i endup with a 71/100 and i'm not dead yet.

physics is hard. i posted the two problems i had trouble with on facebook if anyone cares.

nietzche is good.

CIA's Harsh Interrogation Techniques Described

2007-05-21T16:58:00.000-07:00

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/print?id=1322866

z.Z why need title?

2007-05-19T23:46:00.000-07:00

"The intellectual conscience
I keep having the same experience and keep resisting it every time. I do not want to believe it although it is palpable: the great majority of people lack an intellectual conscience. Indeed, it has often seemed to me as if anyone calling for an intellectual conscience were as lonely in the most densely populated cities as if he were in a desert. Everybody looks at you with strange eyes and goes right on handling his scales, calling this good and that evil. Nobody even blushes when you intimate that their weights are underweight; nor do people feel outraged; they merely laugh at your doubts. I mean: the great majority of people does not consider it contemptible to believe this or that and to live accordingly, without first having given themselves an account of the final and most certain reasons pro and con, and without even troubling themselves about such reasons afterward: the most gifted men and the noblest women still belong to this "great majority." But what is goodheartedness, refinement, or genius to me, when the person who has these virtues tolerates slack feelings in his faith and judgments and when he does not account the desire for certainty as his inmost craving and deepest distress—as that which separates the higher human beings from the lower.

Among some pious people I have found a hatred of reason and was well disposed to them for that; for this at least betrayed their bad intellectual conscience. But to stand in the midst of this rerum concordia discors [Discordant concord of things: Horace, Epistles, I.12.19.] and of this whole marvelous uncertainty and rich ambiguity of existence without questioning, without trembling with the craving and the rapture of such questioning, without at least hating the person who questions, perhaps even finding him faintly amusing—that is what I feel to be contemptible, and this is the feeling for which I look first in everybody. Some folly keeps persuading me that every human being has this feeling, simply because he is human. This is my sense of injustice."

"...The taste of the higher type has a singular value standard. Moreover, i usually believes that the idiosyncrasy of its taste is not a singular value standard; rather, it posits its values and disvalues as generally valid and thus becomes incomprehensible and impractical. Very rarely does a higher nature retain sufficient reason for understanding and treating everyday people as such; for the most part, this type assumes that its own passion is present but kept concealed in all men, and this belief becomes an ardent and eloquent faith. But when such exceptional people do not see themselves as the exception, how can they ever understand the common type and arrive at a fair evaluation of the rule? Thus they, too, speak of the folly, inexpediency, and fantasies of humanity, stunned that the course of the world should be so insane, and puzzled that it won't own up to what "is needful." - This is the eternal injustice of those who are noble."

and btw:

<3 Thomas <3 says:
do u still solo?
Matt says:
a little bit
Matt says:
=)
Matt says:
im like 19-2
<3 Thomas <3 says:
aww
<3 Thomas <3 says:
i see your getting wrose
<3 Thomas <3 says:
worse

*sigh* even thomas says.. lol

put it on your games you must play before you die list

2007-05-19T11:29:00.000-07:00

the most anticipated game in history has been announced: starcraft 2

this is huge.

"It's about damn time."

first love

2007-05-17T18:11:00.001-07:00

heard this song on the radio today and IDed it with the help of unlike of wcreplays' forums. yeah 106.1 is definitely the best. i can't stand a lot of the rap/hip hop but the r&b + occasional blues/jazzish stuff is to die for.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=j_JtWklrL-c

i'll figure out how to embed videos that have embed disabled later

truth

2007-05-17T15:31:00.000-07:00

And as for our future, one will hardly find us on the paths of those Egyptian youths who endanger temples by night, embrace statues, and want by all means to unveil, uncover, and put into a bright light whatever is kept concealed for good reasons. No, this bad taste, this will to truth, to "truth at any price," this youthful madness in the love of truth, have lost their charm for us: for that we are too experienced, too serious, too merry, too burned, too profound. We no longer believe that truth remains truth when the veils are withdrawn; we have lived too much to believe this. Today we consider it a matter of decency not to wish to see everything naked, or be present at everything, or to understand and "know" everything.

on religions

2007-05-16T00:17:00.000-07:00

so i came across this site with basic info on various religions and i just started looking at it. On basic articles of faith in Islam..

Belief in Predestination...

* That Allah has already decided what will happen.
* Muslims believe that this doesn't stop human beings making free choices.

this concept is kind of tricky and after a long time i decided that it's easier to think about it with frames of reference(which is what i was doing all along i just didn't realize it which is what made it confusing)
to human beings, it is free will
but in the omniscient reference frame, there is one set path - gutted, no?

of mice and men.

i think i'll post this one in xanga and facebook too.

garfield hates mondays

2007-05-14T20:51:00.000-07:00

so...just got home lalala LOL DID YOU KNOW CREOLOPHUS IS A LATIN NAME FOR A MUSHROOM HAHAHAHAHAH got another SS qck heavy in the mail today...dunno why i got two? as if one of those aren't enough lolol (not complaining though)

my books came too =)

physics test this week, carelaser goes pew pew pew

heard this on the radio today, lots of good songs today! the remedy, over my head, i'm a flirt twice HAHA and etc

facebook is myspace in disguise

wisdom begins with wonder(i needed a title lawl)

2007-05-13T11:25:00.000-07:00

on how people thought during the modern and post-modern eras "But just think, if there were an absolute truth, and if God was it, then it seems to follow that, if you take God out of the equation, you would believe that there was no absolute truth."

btw i'm the one who commented last time she posted asking for more explanation =)

and i know i have a few readers why i never gets comments =( and where did flame disappear to

religion and math

2007-05-11T15:50:00.000-07:00

i read a lot of blogs of Christians.. and i got to thinking there's this similarity, this thing about religion that is a lot like math. there are always these holes. you can fill in the holes by making everything more complicated but it always creates new holes too. the fact is, there are always holes.

but mind you there are huge differences and i don't wish to spend hours writing it here.

and that reminds me, if in this certain town there is a barber who shaves everyone who doesn't shave himself, does the barber shave himself?

haha b&n's customer service talks so quietly

2007-05-10T18:45:00.000-07:00

just bought 4 books :p

Can Man Live Without God
Portable Nietzsche
Basic Writings of Nietzsche
The Gay Science: With a Prelude in Rhymes and an Appendix of Songs

just getting ready for summer, you know

//

starting a new books i recommendpage

i'll update it when i feel like it and maybe make it look nicer and have more info

ugh i need a title - liberation theology? eh

2007-05-07T15:54:00.000-07:00

so i was reading this article in the nyt, As Pope Heads to Brazil, a Rival Theology Persists , and it was talking a lot about liberation theology.. so i was like 'okay but what really is liberation theology' and i googled it and read wikipedia's article on liberation theology. interesting read..especially because i was talking about similar stuff with ryan yesterday. interestingly enough, i found that my position is in agreement with the popes on this matter(or at least as far as i understand it)

this conception of Christ as a political figure, a revolutionary, as the subversive of Nazareth, does not tally with the Church's catechisms". - pope john paul ii

from the article:

However, he also expressed concern over, "the ever increasing wealth of the rich at the expense of the ever increasing poverty of the poor". He also affirmed that the principle of private property "must lead to a more just and equitable distribution of goods, ... and if the common good demands it, there is no need to hesitate at expropriation itself, done in the right way".

you don't need religion to treat people right.. and that's not what religion is about. it might and should come as a byproduct of pursuit of other things..but it is out of sympathy(or love as they like to call it, just so we're talking about the same thing)

yeah i don't think ethics should come from religion AT ALL