tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30786249.post6618313182665213247..comments2007-04-20T07:46:07.381+01:00Richnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30786249.post-12534468311676178202007-04-20T07:46:00.000+01:002007-04-20T07:46:00.000+01:00Don, <BR/><BR/>The post was by Lin.<BR/><BR/>I think its about appropriatness. On MM you will get told to never touch a model, and for most photography thats true, there is no need to do so.<BR/><BR/>You however, tie models to the bed and spank them (lucky you) so its difficult to see how you could do that without touching.<BR/><BR/>However, you have said that you only do it as necessary for the image and thus you are following the same guidlines within the scope of what you do.<BR/><BR/>MM has lots of stories of GWC's touching models inappropriatly and this always causes an outcry as its seen by almost everyone as breaking the 'rules'.Richardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04449619427741048486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30786249.post-44201703535434282542007-04-20T07:43:00.000+01:002007-04-20T07:43:00.000+01:00Not sure why you couldn't see my sig, but the post is mine.<BR/><BR/>I appeciate touching is dependent on the style of photography you are doing. It's difficult to tie someone up without touching them! On the other hand, there's a big difference between touching and "touching", if you see what I mean. One is professional, and the other is not.<BR/><BR/>IMO, Rules and professionalism are necessary when you are dealing with models in general, but again, these are dependent on the style of photography you are doing, and the individual model's personal comfort zone. <BR/><BR/>Maybe UK models are different, but all the ones I have met would welcome a photographer with a more ethical attitude, as it would make them feel more comfortable. I don't see why a professional and ethical attitude would limit the art.Linhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02276948718081506756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30786249.post-68271981115680024852007-04-20T05:18:00.000+01:002007-04-20T05:18:00.000+01:00No, there aren't any rules. There are no professional ethics having to do with what is essentially a hobby. There are only expectations of civilized behavior, but those are the same as all interactions with other human beings. Turning that into some "professional code" is overdoing it just a bit.<BR/><BR/>Touching models. I don't hesitate to touch models if it's necessary to the picture. I also know enough to avoid touching those models who would feel it's an intrusion. But I avoid working with those models as much as possible.<BR/><BR/>Richard or Lin - must be Richard as Lin signs her posts - you're trying too hard to make up a protocol where there isn't one and any protocol would limit the potential of a shoot. Limits are to be avoided, rather than embraced. Rules restrict, they do not inspire.<BR/><BR/>Forget the rules and behave as a decent human being. Rules can't do that; only who you are can do that.<BR/><BR/>-DonD. Brian Nelsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03526887737403699976noreply@blogger.com