Comments on Fluffytek Art Blog: (R6) Creative Vision

CREATIVE VISION: I think the term simply defines ...

2008-03-22T00:26:00.000Z

CREATIVE VISION: I think the term simply defines what the photographer sees in his head. The idea for the photograph or body of work. Nothing more.

BAD PHOTOGRAPHY/PHOTOGRAPHERS: The word "bad" needs to be replaced with something more specific. This is all really subjective stuff when you get down to it.

GOOD ART, GETTING IT: You're right. There's so much bullshit talk out there about what is art, who's doing great work, and how you are NOT getting it if you don't like it enough. That's marketing, and it's a big machine.

ART: Is a word.

PHOTOGRAPHY: Mine comes in many varieties, which sometimes intermix: commercial, portraiture, and self-expression. I don't care who calls it the "A" word. I just want you to find some of it interesting, thought-provoking, or just plain "cool."

Photography is something I just do.

You're right... you just do NOT get it.

2008-03-21T19:16:00.000Z

You're right... you just do NOT get it.

"They have little or no real objective or purpose ...

2008-03-21T08:02:00.000Z

"They have little or no real objective or purpose other to be an “Artist”. Very few have the feeling or as I see it the passion for their art to really make it worthwhile. I think many Artists are not really giving us “their” vision or creation, they are just giving us what they think their audience wants and calling it their “Vision or Creation”."

Thank you Mr Wood. This was exactly what I was trying to say. Only you said it much more eloquently, and much more politely too :-)

I was wandering around some photography sites toda...

2008-03-21T03:40:00.000Z

I was wandering around some photography sites today and came across this. I think it might fit a little bit in the thought of your post. It's from an interview with photographer Barbara Bordnick.

CDLC: How can a person know when he or she has found something that’s truly right for him or her to photograph?
BB: You have to find your own truth. How do you know that you’ve found it? The greatest library you have is your own experience. It’s the only thing you have that’s yours alone. I believe that all organisms have the basic, primal need to communicate. We all choose the method by which we’ll communicate, painting, writing, and so forth. What in your life experience gives you a vocabulary to say something and the reason to say it so well that no one will ever say it better? It’s the difference between doing something for style and doing it for yourself. I believe there’s no such thing as The Truth; there’s only your truth

"Oh please. Why the hell can’t we call a bad photograph, “a bad photograph?”..."

My first thought is it's like the old saying.
There are no ugly women, some are just better looking than the others.
Which reminds me of the old joke about drinking. I never went to bed with an ugly woman. But I did wake up with a few.

Some of the problem is that we do get seduced by the old meanie the "Mass Media". They tell us this or that is what we should accept as the "in" way of doing or looking at something. We are so bombarded by images we seem to lose our own perspective. We accept the going "Vision" as ours.

I was looking a Black Book magazine tonight and they are showing a new collection of clothes. This is a multi-page spread with some photos running across both pages.The pictures are out of focus, they look like the film was fogged or has extreme grain as it has a haze over the entire image. Some of the clothes can hardly be seen. In one shot only a few inches of a strap of the dress is seen by the models neck (this is the photographers pose, not the obscurity)and in another I finally figured out by reading the credits that the black blobs shown in reverse in the haze were, the bra and panties they were trying to sell, being reflected in a mirror. I bet the designer paid a hefty price and approved the ad agency and photographers creative vision. Convinced by, conscious or unconscious, peer pressure that the ad was cool, hip and just the thing to showcase the "Art" trying to be sold.

"The truth be told, bad photographers are prevalent in the art world."

With photography in general I have touched on it in other comments..it's this thing we are using now...the internet. The ease of posting opens the door to everyone. Genius and idiot alike. (Personally I establish the Median Line here) In the past there was the cost of publishing your work and the gatekeepers called publishers and editors that kept most of the crap out of the art world.

"I do believe that there is such a concept as “creative vision,” but it is a nebulous concept,...."

"What every man needs, regardless of his job or the kind of work he is doing, is a vision of what his place is and may be. He needs an objective and a purpose. He needs a feeling and a belief that he has some worthwhile thing to do. What this is no one can tell him. It must be his own creation. Its success will be measured by the nature of his vision, what he has done to equip himself, and how well he has performed along the line of its development."
Author:Joseph M. Dodge

In my humble opinion. Very few “Artist” know or have thought about how they fit, or where what they are doing now will take them, in their chosen field of art. They have little or no real objective or purpose other to be an “Artist”. Very few have the feeling or as I see it the passion for their art to really make it worthwhile. I think many Artists are not really giving us “their” vision or creation, they are just giving us what they think their audience wants and calling it their “Vision or Creation”.

Of course, I probably shouldn't be spouting off, the last picture I took with an objective and purpose was documenting a crack in my garage floor.

Oh I do know that IvoryFlame is a vision of beauty.

D.L. Wood

Ahh....And where would we be without artistic vari...

2008-03-20T09:52:00.000Z

Ahh....And where would we be without artistic variety? I hope each of us has our own "creative vision"...lets just hope that it's NOT the same vision as the next guy.

I prefer to not call a "bad photograph" a "bad photograph"..as I am judging based upon the axiom of subjectivness. I feel it's OK to say "I don't care for that photograph"...as this is based completely upon the only thing that we can truely claim expertise on..and that is OUR own individual taste. But to make a claim about a photograph being bad??....,with such arrogance to make such claims, we better be able to walk on water photographically.

I guess the individual Viewer ultimately determines the artistic aesthetics of any piece of Art. This is the way it should be.

I am fine with that.

bt