Comments on vt.Buzz ~ a political blog: Out of pocket

You do? I am honored but it is Mr. Schmuck to you...

2008-11-05T14:18:00.000-05:00

You do? I am honored but it is Mr. Schmuck to you Coopy.

Anonymous said... "Coop said: "First I'm Hoffer, t...

2008-11-05T08:05:00.000-05:00

Anonymous said...

"Coop said: "First I'm Hoffer, than he's my hero, now I'm Hoffer again. ""

"..than he's my hero? than?"

Yeah, that's my bad.

That said, pick an ignorant anonymous trash lie and go with it, schmuck.

"Nice spelling moron."

Yeah, I recognize your work, schmuck.

Always a pleasure.

Coop said: "First I'm Hoffer, than he's my hero, n...

2008-11-05T05:53:00.000-05:00

Coop said: "First I'm Hoffer, than he's my hero, now I'm Hoffer again. "

..than he's my hero? than?

Nice spelling moron.

First I'm Hoffer, than he's my hero, now I'm Hoffe...

2008-11-04T21:24:00.000-05:00

First I'm Hoffer, than he's my hero, now I'm Hoffer again.

Oy Gevalt, schmuck! Pick an ignorant anonymous trash lie and go with it for fook sake, little fraudulent fella.

Buckle your seat belt, little bigot boy. The next 30 years are gonna be hard times for gop slime.

Bummer.

Always a pleasure.

"First, ya spend six months claimin' I'm Hoffer an...

2008-11-04T08:13:00.000-05:00

"First, ya spend six months claimin' I'm Hoffer and now he's my hero."

Nice dodge, Doug.

bubba..."Question: the dims seem to have their pan...

2008-11-03T16:05:00.000-05:00

bubba...

"Question: the dims seem to have their panties bunched up about Gov. Douglas owing the state for campaign expenses...."

Answer: Bubbakis has got bupkis and he's tryin' to change the subject and hope nobody notices.

Nice try, nitwit. If doogie had anything on Dean, he'd have brought it up by now. He hasn't.

If he had a Federal shot at him, he'd have brought that up, too. After all, this is still shrub's incompetent-trash, gop-slime injustice department.

He didn't do that, either. Clearly, like your ignorant anonymous ass, bubbakis, doogie's got bupkis, too.

No wonder ya love the schmuck so much.

Always a pleasure, little fraudulent fella.

bubba said... "Apparently to jw it is "shouting do...

2008-11-03T15:21:00.000-05:00

bubba said...

"Apparently to jw it is "shouting down" his hero Doug Hoffer when you present facts that prove his fantasies to be just that!"

Really? And when did your ignorant anonymous ass do that, bubbakis, and how soon afterwards did ya wake up, little fella!

Nice try, nitwit. The next fact you and the rest of the Vermont scum vote cough up will be your first.

First, ya spend six months claimin' I'm Hoffer and now he's my hero.

Either way, congrats! Your streak's intact and you remain 0-everything.

Enjoy all 12 years of the Obama Administration.

Always a pleasure.

Apparently to jw it is "shouting down" his hero Do...

2008-11-03T14:47:00.000-05:00

Apparently to jw it is "shouting down" his hero Doug Hoffer when you present facts that prove his fantasies to be just that!

Nice try - why don't you answer the question. Tax ...

2008-11-03T12:53:00.000-05:00

Nice try - why don't you answer the question. Tax dollars are tax dollars no matter how you try to rationalize!

Dean paid the state for expenditures that were mad...

2008-11-03T10:36:00.000-05:00

Dean paid the state for expenditures that were made for his re-election.

Douglas has not.

Question: the dims seem to have their panties bunc...

2008-11-03T10:16:00.000-05:00

Question: the dims seem to have their panties bunched up about Gov. Douglas owing the state for campaign expenses. Have they ever complained about the hundreds of thousands of dollars former Gov. Dean stuck the state for during his ridiculous run for the Presidency?

I thought so.

Hypocrites.

Vermont's reason for the civil union law:Phil Scot...

2008-11-03T08:04:00.000-05:00

Vermont's reason for the civil union law:

Phil Scott and Dick Mazza

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2008-11-03T01:43:00.000-05:00

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JW:I would ask you to please take a little more ti...

2008-11-02T21:31:00.000-05:00

JW:

I would ask you to please take a little more time to read my posts carefully and ascertain when I am quoting someone else and what I am putting forth as my opinion.

I quoted a lengthy post from someone named "farjas" to prove my point, that even Democrats acknowledge that the timing of this charge appears political and therefore its effectiveness is undermined.

You can question my independence all you want. I'll be voting Obama and Douglas.

As for your intimation that somehow I'm quoting my own sock puppet post, the answer is no. Remember you need an account to post at GMD.

I've been banned from Green Mountain Daily by Odum because I called him and another poster out on their hypocrisy, specifically their position that grassroots protests are good when their friends do it, but "coercive" and "harassing" when St. Albans residents who want a Wal Mart in their town do it. And their position that Wal Mart's participation in Vermont's political/permitting process amounts to outside meddling, but that when Odum's employer, Vermont Natural Resources Council, does it it amounts to a local grassroots effort.

So Odum accused me of "threatening" his livelihood and banned me. Now I just read his blog, I don't post there.

But I still consider it a bellwether for the far-left wing of the Democratic Party, so when people like Farjas and others who are allowed to post there say the issue of Douglas' ethics on his expenses seems to lack traction and appear political, I tend to think that means even people violently opposed to Douglas believe it.

Anonymous said... "Very nice. You make me laugh."S...

2008-11-02T20:31:00.000-05:00

Anonymous said...

"Very nice. You make me laugh."

Said the left butt cheek to the right.

Nice try.

Independent Vermonter has left a new comment on th...

2008-11-02T20:23:00.000-05:00

Independent Vermonter has left a new comment on the post "Out of pocket":

JWCOOP10 said: "Only a hardcore partisan pretending to be an independent would argue to the contrary.

Halloween was yesterday, Indy. Time to take off the make up and put the costume away until next year.

As for your characterization of the GMD posts regarding the issue, nice try. No sale.

Nobody's criticizing Symington for thrashing doogie with the club he handed her.

To the contrary, we're just criticizing her for not doing it sooner."

"JW, I call myself an independent for good reason. I don't reflexively assume anyone who calls themselves a Republican is "scum" like you do, nor I consider them above reproach, as you seem to hold most Democrats. I take them as I find them."

Fine, Indy. If it helps you to tell yourself that, suit yourself.
I call myself a Democrat because they're the best viable option and I suspect that I vote republican about as often as you vote for a Democrat, but fine, have it your way.

"And as for my characterization of the GMD posts regarding this matter, I said:

"Even the hardcore Democrats who are allowed to post at Green Mountain Daily acknowledge that raising this issue at this late stage in the game looks like nothing but politics to the average voter."

For example:

"Not to rain on your parade...
This feels similar to the press release about GWB and a drunk driving conviction from the 2000 campaign. Not in content, but rather, the timing of it."

Interesting choice of analogy, Indy. Is it your contention that GWB had not been convicted of DWI in Maine back in the '70s?

Whether you're citing your own post or not is for all practical purposes irrelevant. You're citing it, presumably, because it illustrates the point you're trying to make.

Again, Indy, doogie fashioned the club and handed it to Symington to beat him with it. The only thing Symington did wrong was wait until she was trailing with two outs in the ninth, nobody on and down to her last strike before askin' the ump for time, steppin' out and askin' the bat boy to hand her the bat doogie'd made her or, if you prefer, askin' the ump to look at the baseball before doogie through another pitch.

Either way, the club is real, the story is true, doogie's busted and Symington's only sin was not acting sooner.

"...No matter how much you'd like this to stick, it probably won't. It's a little late in the game to throw out this sort of accusation, regardless of its validity."

So, what you're saying is that your complaint with Symington is based on style as opposed to substance.

Fine. Again, I agree with you for the third or fourth time in this post alone.

Symington hasn't won any style points in this campaign and she should have acted sooner.

That, however, doesn't make doogie any less guilty or the charges against him any less valid.

Symington's an incompetent candidate who's run a terrible campaign.

Doogie, on the other hand, is an incompetent Governor who's run Vermont into the ground over the past six years the way Bush has run the Country into the ground, and he's clearly not as popular as he, the Freeps Folks and the rest of the Vermont SCLM keep telling us he is as even the WGOP poll makes abundantly clear.

Moreover, that poll was conducted before this story broke so he's not even as popular as he was when at least as many people wanted him gone as wanted him to stay.

Symington probably did wait too long to use this. Doogie probably will survive this and get reelected with 45 percent of the vote, give or take, because Pollina has divided the anti-doogie vote that is probably over 50 percent now.

So what? That doesn't make the story any less true or doogie any less guilty and incompetent.

Like Clinton, doogie's been blessed by the incompetence of his enemies.

Like Bush, he's actually guilty and incompetent.

As for your ridiculous claims that this is politically motivated, get a grip.

Sue Allen said that this information has been out for a couple of weeks now on VTW Friday night. Terri was sitting right there. She didn't take the opportunity to disagree.

That didn't stop her as TA Editor from endorsing doogie any more than it stopped the Freeps or the RH from endorsing him when they were sitting on this story.

In fairness to Terri, she's not the Editor. Sue Allen is. Sitting on the story was her call.

If this was politically motivated, they could have endorsed Symington, Pollina or nobody and released it immediately when it would do the most damage to doogie.

But hey didn't, now, did they, Indy?

Given your claims that it's too late in the campaign to make a difference now, sitting on the story and endorsing the schmuck is as much or more evidence of political motivation as reporting it because Shay Totten or others had broken the story, the news was out and they had to report it, Indy.

At the end of the day, you're as free to vote for doogie and hope that this doesn't make any difference because it broke too late as I am to vote for Symington and hope that it does and that Pollina voters come to their senses and vote for Symington instead so we can can this incompetent trash once and for all.

Despite shrub's best efforts, it's still a free Country, but that doesn't make doogie any less guilty or incompetent than sitting on the story did in shrub's DWI case.

I'll give ya this much, Indy.
At least ya didn't try to say the schmuck was swiftboated.

JWCOOP10 said: "Only a hardcore partisan pretendin...

2008-11-02T18:50:00.000-05:00

JWCOOP10 said: "Only a hardcore partisan pretending to be an independent would argue to the contrary.

Halloween was yesterday, Indy. Time to take off the make up and put the costume away until next year.

As for your characterization of the GMD posts regarding the issue, nice try. No sale.

Nobody's criticizing Symington for thrashing doogie with the club he handed her.

To the contrary, we're just criticizing her for not doing it sooner."

JW, I call myself an independent for good reason. I don't reflexively assume anyone who calls themselves a Republican is "scum" like you do, nor I consider them above reproach, as you seem to hold most Democrats. I take them as I find them.

And as for my characterization of the GMD posts regarding this matter, I said:

"Even the hardcore Democrats who are allowed to post at Green Mountain Daily acknowledge that raising this issue at this late stage in the game looks like nothing but politics to the average voter."

For example:

"Not to rain on your parade...
This feels similar to the press release about GWB and a drunk driving conviction from the 2000 campaign. Not in content, but rather, the timing of it. No matter how much you'd like this to stick, it probably won't. It's a little late in the game to throw out this sort of accusation, regardless of its validity. It's too easily brushed off as politically motivated with 5 days left. Right or wrong, many moderate Vermonters believe Douglas to be a last line of defense against one party rule in the state, which has lead to his comfortably being re-elected. A Gubernatorial candidate for the Democratic party will have to make their case against this notion early in a campaign, and I don't believe Symington has done that. It hasn't helped that she's being butchered from the right and the left, but the end result is the same, Jim D will be on the 5th floor for two more.
There's also this:
All the kiddies are psyched for halloween, and many parents will use that as an excuse tomorrow to leave work early to hit the streets (or the bars). The news cycle between now and Tuesday is very short. Most people (not those of us hanging out in political blog world) will not be exposed to political news (local or national) between tomorrow afternoon and Monday. Would this have made more of an impact if it were brought up a week ago? I doubt it. It's not a silver bullet.

by: farjas @ Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 14:14:19 PM CDT"

I don't know whether Douglas is in the wrong on this or not, but at this stage of the game I just don't think it matters to the average voter. They see it as a standard, tit-for-tat back and forth between the candidates.

Anonymous said... "This thread bores me. How about...

2008-11-02T18:29:00.000-05:00

Anonymous said...

"This thread bores me. How about this...."

In other words, your ignorant anonymous ass wants to change the subject to some gop-slop nonsense that won't get any traction because you're afraid this mileage malfeasance could.

Nice try. No sale, schmuck.

This is still shrub's cluelessly-corrupt injustice department and shrub's gop-slime IRS and INS, little fraudulent fella.

If they had anything on Obama, they and fixed news would have sprung it on him a long time ago.

Unlike Symington, the Freeps Folks and the rest of the Vermont SCLM, they wouldn't sit on a story until the last minute.

They didn't. Evidently, they don't.

Clearly, your ignorant anonymous continues to be dumb, to be scum and to have bupkis and I don't have to assume anything.

Always a pleasure

Anonymous..."It's a shame that opposing views can'...

2008-11-02T18:14:00.000-05:00

Anonymous...

"It's a shame that opposing views can't be raised without being shouted down. This has become classic left wing behavior of which Coop has become a posterboy."

Oh, you poor, poor, persecuted little putz.

Go cheney yourself, chump.

You and your coalition of the clueless cretins are the same nameless-nitwit scum ya were a year ago when ya were shouting down the Doug Hoffers of the World.

You scum-vote slime just can't handle it when somebody smacks ya back, which is why the ignorant anonymous-trash likes of you has no answer but to lie your sorry butts off and post my name, number and address over and over again, periodically threaten my wife and repeatedly offer google map directions to our place.

Ignorant, anonymous trash with bupkis spewing psychotic slop ya can't substantiate and frequently can't spell are not "opposing views", schmuck. It's just ignorant anonymous trash with bupkis spewing psychotic slop you can't substantiate and frequently can't spell, sport.

There's nothin' legitimate about you or your pathetic "views", punk.

Nothin'. Zip. Nada. Bupkis.

Never was. Never will be.

"The thing that has made our country so strong is the existance of a 2 party system with an open and honest dialogue. Like an eagle our country needs a left wing and a right wing to fly."

Nice try, nitwit. No sale.

You not only can't justify your miserable "existance", little fraudulent fella, ya can't even spell the word.

Then again, you always have been the ignorant, anonymous-trash gift that keeps on givin', crazy lady.

To the contrary, the thing that has always made this State and this Country great is our ability to overcome and rise above the brain-dead bigotry and obstructionist efforts of the klukluxkretin, neo-nazi-nitwit likes of you and your ignorant, anonymous, auntie-amerikan ass, crazy lady, and come Tuesday, we shall overcome.

This Country and this State survives and thrives in spite of you and your delusional dreck, dimwit, not because of ya.

You're not a wing, you're dead weight keepin' this Country and this State from gettin' off the ground.

The take back vermunt trash likes of you are no more patriotic Americans than the nazis were patriotic Germans.

Ya lost then. You're losin' now and you're gonna lose big come Tuesday.

Get used to it. You're gonna get plenty of practice.

At the end of the day, you're just one more vile thing that needs to be cleaned outta Missisquoi Bay with the rest of the flotsam, jetsam and algae bubbles threatening my Dog's life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, little fella.

In every sense, you're dumb, you're scum and ya got bupkis.

Now tell your story walkin' and take it where the climate suits your sheet, schmuck.

Disappear.

Very nice. You make me laugh.

2008-11-02T11:39:00.000-05:00

Very nice. You make me laugh.

I know Mississippians and find that an insult to t...

2008-11-02T11:10:00.000-05:00

I know Mississippians and find that an insult to them.

It's a shame that opposing views can't be raised w...

2008-11-02T10:48:00.000-05:00

It's a shame that opposing views can't be raised without being shouted down. This has become classic left wing behavior of which Coop has become a posterboy.

The thing that has made our country so strong is the existance of a 2 party system with an open and honest dialogue. Like an eagle our country needs a left wing and a right wing to fly.

The Coops of the world clearly display their fear and intolerance for anyone with a differing point of view and will only be happy when they beat them down, gain that elusive Super Majority and dicate their policy to all. At best this is incredibly Nixon-esque. At the worst he embodies the exact characteristics of the Nazi greats..something he clearly loves to accuse others of being.

Pity hapless little man Coop while he sits in his basement harboring so much hatred and intolerance towards anyone that isn't exactly like him. I think the board is wrong...Coop didn't come here from New Jersey. I think he was born, bred and schooled in the backwoods of Mississippi.

Do you still have your 'sheet' Coop?

bubba.... "It might take a couple of years but..."...

2008-11-02T10:29:00.000-05:00

bubba....

"It might take a couple of years but..."

Bubbakis will continue to be dumb, to be scum and to have bupkis.

That, ya won't have to wait for.

Always a pleasure.

Just one more lie from BO... in his book he spoke ...

2008-11-02T07:31:00.000-05:00

Just one more lie from BO... in his book he spoke lovingly of her. She was with him for his swearing in. He is an unselfish man. He told us that in all his memiors. Surely he must have been supporting her. After all he believes in spreading the wealth around. His convictions to the greater good must have compelled him to give her money to maintain her lifestyle. ..didn't he? Oh!

What a hypocrite!

From Politico today...HENDERSON, Nev. — Barack Oba...

2008-11-02T07:26:00.000-05:00

From Politico today...

HENDERSON, Nev. — Barack Obama did not know a relative was living in the United States illegally for the past nearly four years prior to today's Associated Press report, "but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed," the campaign said Saturday in a statement.
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Does that mean he will turn her over to INS for deportation?