tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post7398131217320694757..comments2008-05-20T15:52:17.108-07:00Robhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-64077113384088467622008-05-20T15:52:00.000-07:002008-05-20T15:52:00.000-07:00Unless you miswrote, Russ, the "it" in the following sentence<BR/><BR/>"It worked in the Americas, but for obvious reasons failed in Korea and Viet Nam, and is failing in Iraq and Afghanistan."<BR/><BR/>is genocide. To put it plainly, you've implied that the US goal in Korea and Vietnam was genocide. <BR/><BR/>If that's your position, I disagree. I think our goal was to defeat our enemies militarily but not to wipe them out culturally or physically.<BR/><BR/>Every act of aggression or imperialism isn't also an act of genocide. There are enough cases of actual genocide without stretching the definition to include such things as non-genocidal wars.Robhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01478763837213733775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-16247077669489642782008-05-18T21:43:00.000-07:002008-05-18T21:43:00.000-07:00Writerfella here --<BR/> Though both Korea and Viet Nam were 'allied actions,' they only set the pattern for the later conflicts, also ostensibly 'allied actions.' But the largest role in any of those four was held and is being held by the US. But no, you have misread, dMarks, as writerfella only was indicating that success achieved in 'the Indian Wars' granted ill confidence that such success also would be guaranteed by tactics and strategies learned at that time. Their name may have been changed into 'hearts and minds' but the meaning still is the same...<BR/>All Best<BR/>Russ Bates<BR/>'writerfella'writerfellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00111681906238053379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-66594413988417643902008-05-18T11:02:00.000-07:002008-05-18T11:02:00.000-07:00I don't follow your comparison of this to the Korean War? Are you actually implying that it was the US failing to conquer all of Korea, and North Korea remains the free place?dmarkshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29769707.post-143678060702557672008-05-18T09:47:00.000-07:002008-05-18T09:47:00.000-07:00Writerfella here --<BR/> It often isn't examined or even delineated, but genocide happens in stages, beginning with contact and conquest or contact and subjugation, then follows assimilation and deconstruction, and at last isolation and acculturation. It worked in the Americas, but for obvious reasons failed in Korea and Viet Nam, and is failing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hints about historical lessons well learned? In those last four arenas, enemy strongholds and territories were called "Indian Country'...<BR/>All Best<BR/>Russ Bates<BR/>'writerfella'writerfellahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00111681906238053379noreply@blogger.com