tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post5861485123869494070..comments2007-11-09T19:47:05.229-06:00Julie R. Neidlingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03485064471916748455noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-26009309028897802682007-11-09T19:11:00.000-06:002007-11-09T19:11:00.000-06:00

I understand the right to bear arms. But how do you remove them from the bear?

denironoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-78279123918680392192007-11-08T17:51:00.000-06:002007-11-08T17:51:00.000-06:00

That is a list I never would have even thought to come up with.<BR/><BR/>Shame.

Julie R. Neidlingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03485064471916748455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-89774472732979873842007-11-08T17:47:00.000-06:002007-11-08T17:47:00.000-06:00

Cletus. That's funny. I've never heard the name used that way as a stereotype. Maybe Jethro or Huckleberry. Never heard the name Cletus.<BR/><BR/>But isn't there a little Cletus inside all of us? For example:<BR/><BR/>Five Places Flatulence Is Still Funny:<BR/><BR/>1) In church<BR/>2) A ballerina, as she's being tossed through the air.<BR/>3) A golfer, as he's bending over to putt.<BR/>4) A

denironoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-66533271983068838702007-11-08T14:03:00.000-06:002007-11-08T14:03:00.000-06:00

No, Jeff, I am specifically <I>not</I> saying that.<BR/><BR/>Trying to frame a discussion into warring factions and then limiting each side to either/or positions is like <A HREF="http://dakotawomen.blogspot.com/2007/10/october-31-2007-in-news.html#c734944547073246840" REL="nofollow">a comment</A> (on a totally unrelated subject) on <A HREF="http://dakotawomen.blogspot.com/2007/10/october-31-2007

Julie R. Neidlingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03485064471916748455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-32666842941721046422007-11-08T13:54:00.000-06:002007-11-08T13:54:00.000-06:00

So, are you trying to say that a rural education is better than a city one?

jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-49039050974052488862007-11-08T13:50:00.000-06:002007-11-08T13:50:00.000-06:00

I met someone named Cletus, once. I really did.<BR/><BR/>I had a hard time getting past the existence of that name as being real.<BR/><BR/>I don't remember anything else about our conversation. I just remember thinking "Wow. Cletus."

Julie R. Neidlingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03485064471916748455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-77379524449038253302007-11-08T13:36:00.000-06:002007-11-08T13:36:00.000-06:00

I am skeptical about this whole discussion. I mean, has anyone ever actually met someone named Cletus? And what kind of last name is Sixpack? Slavic? I think it's all made up. <BR/><BR/>But seriously, I spent last week hunting with a couple guys from the Pittsburgh area who total over 60 years teaching. They said a big change happened in the 80s when kids just stopped taking responsibility.

Jonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-12269128668996292752007-11-08T10:25:00.000-06:002007-11-08T10:25:00.000-06:00

As someone who formerly lived in the south suburbs of Chicago during an economic downturn (steel mills closing right and left)and who now lives in the rural midwest, I see some of the problems you and Dan mention in both places. They actually mirror eachother, and, I think, much of it is caused by people's cultural mindset, for lack of a better term. Both places had intelligent people, but not

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-44944571626236925692007-11-08T09:34:00.000-06:002007-11-08T09:34:00.000-06:00

1. Deniro: I wasn't trying to be cruel. 'Twas an example that used a kind of stereotype that men know cars and the reality that it is a knowledge not based in gender but in experience and interest.<BR/><BR/>2.Keith: I don't think Edelen was taking a swipe, either, though I was surprised at what seemed like an overly simple assumption coming from a writer who generally goes a lot wider and tries

Julie R. Neidlingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03485064471916748455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-12432373378874015952007-11-08T07:51:00.000-06:002007-11-08T07:51:00.000-06:00

One more thing:<BR/><BR/>As to what the quoted teacher said in your post, I agree with everything said, especially about being forced to teach to the lowest common denominator rather than to excellence. I will say again that the issue there largely reflects what's going on at home and is, in large part, outside the role of the educator, instead firmly rooted in parenting issues.<BR/><BR/>I will

DLEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02475467561892290120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-33748556754600271202007-11-08T07:39:00.000-06:002007-11-08T07:39:00.000-06:00

Julie,<BR/><BR/>Wow, I think this is the longest thing I've ever seen you post.<BR/><BR/>For me, the distinction is clear, and I think where we're having problems is in the labels. I'm not a fan of labels because they cause these kinds of misunderstandings.<BR/><BR/>I will never denigrate someone because they haven't read Sartre. Heck, I haven't read Sartre. Nor am I calling the "

DLEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02475467561892290120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-3839874733722286632007-11-08T06:06:00.000-06:002007-11-08T06:06:00.000-06:00

From what little I've read of Dan Edelen (and for various reasons, it's not much) I don't think he was actually trying to take a swipe at rural people in general--I believe he advocates agrarianism. What I think he was suffering from in his unfortunate quote was the tendency to assume that everyone who votes differently than I do is an idiot. One need only listen to NPR or Rush Limbaugh to hear

Keith Schooleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04078256877683382439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15903370.post-4440405792055416802007-11-08T00:20:00.000-06:002007-11-08T00:20:00.000-06:00

<I>men who are unable to change the oil in their own car</I><BR/><BR/>Now that hurts.

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