tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-151964442008-04-02T13:23:27.266-07:00Middle Earth: Orcs Perspectiveshabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1158334067059379352006-09-15T08:23:00.000-07:002006-11-04T02:13:39.813-08:00Could eagles have taken Frodo to Mount DoomHere is a interesting discussion of whether the righ-bearers travels were even worth it?
Could not the eagles just take Frodo to Mount Doom. Read it at http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/eagles.htmlshabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1130236044166225742005-10-25T03:27:00.000-07:002005-10-25T03:27:24.173-07:00Dialogue between Gandalf and Dwarves, about BalrogDialogue between Gandalf and Dwarves concerning Balrog:-(The dwarves have finally decided to attack Moria without Gondor and Elves. To make sure, Moria can be mined without Balrog’s terror, they ask Gandalf about it. Gandalf was passing through, when he was requested to visit, Balin 11, the then kin of Dwarves)Dwarf Guard: Hail Mithrandir and well met. Enter now the chamber of the kings, for kingshabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1130233627360030912005-10-25T02:47:00.000-07:002005-10-25T02:47:07.390-07:00Did Orcs use magic?Did Orcs use magic?Magic in Middle earth is almost non magical. For Elves magic is their farsightedness both physically and in time, their really long lives which allows them to accumulate wisdom. For dwarves it is their finely crafted tools, their unmatched weapons and amour. Even the Balrogs, dragons can scarcely do anything really magical. They just were free of some physical limitations shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1130203269513002722005-10-24T18:20:00.000-07:002005-10-24T18:21:09.520-07:00Orcstory: The Orcs comethOrcstory: The Orcs cometh, Fourth age. But then one event happened which made this dangerous travel in hostile lands unnecessary. It also forever changed the military equations of Middle-Earth. The Orcs made a chariot which was not driven by horses or wolves. Instead of being propelled by beasts of burden, it was propelled by fire. The Orcs called these chariots “wahan”, meaning that which shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1130179343323395962005-10-24T11:36:00.000-07:002005-10-24T11:42:23.330-07:00Orcstory: The Orcs cometh, Fourth age. But then one event happened which made this dangerous travel in hostile lands unnecessary. It also forever changed the military equations of Middle-Earth. The Orcs made a chariot which was not driven by horses or wolves. Instead of being propelled by beasts of burden, it was propelled by fire. The Orcs called these chariots “wahan”, meaning that which carries. These wahan could travel fastershabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1130011650108660532005-10-22T13:07:00.000-07:002005-10-22T13:07:30.166-07:00Orcstory: the fall of SauronOrcstory: the fall of Sauron, Fourth AgeThe fall of Sauron and the unmaking of the one ring marked the end of the third age. With Sauron’s fall, the Orcs lost their main ally against the Elves. With Sauron gone most would have expected the Elves to strike deep and to destroy their orcish problem for once and for all. But Sauron's fall was a time of great joy for Elves and their allies. In such shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1124311903553172812005-08-17T13:51:00.000-07:002005-08-17T13:51:43.556-07:00Orcish Society: Democracy/DictatorshipFor much of second age the orcish society had a democratic form of government. In the second age even if some leaders seized power, it was always through democratic means and by loopholes in the law.Democracy first came to the Orcs after the end of the reign of Shah-rookh. After his death, and Lazog’s victory, no leader could claim the throne bye the virtue of birth. So the orc clans choose theirshabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1124111928923421192005-08-15T05:02:00.000-07:002005-08-15T06:18:48.930-07:00Story of the Orcs in the First Age, part two.About the same time humans arose in Middle-Earth. From the very beginning there was dispute in the human race about the side to take. Just before the capture of Melkor, the human camp broke up in two. Some of the humans joined the Elves while others joined the Orcish side. The prominent group of the Humans which went to the Elvish side was called the Edain. After most of the elves move away, the shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1124106946338466592005-08-15T04:42:00.000-07:002005-08-15T04:55:46.343-07:00Jeejewisha of the OrcsHave you seen a wild boar being hunted? It is said that ten spear wielding men will not suffice as long as they have any care for their bones. For the boar will keep on fighting, till one drop of life is left in him. So keen is the desire to live, that the boar just wont say die.
This quality is called "jeejewisha", the will to live. And this no one, not even the Elves, can deny that Orcs have inshabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123958037365016602005-08-13T11:15:00.000-07:002005-08-13T11:33:57.370-07:00The rise and rise of OrcsWhen did Orcs begin their rise in Middle earth?
After the fall of Sauron, Orcs were left leaderless. But it also freed them from many shakles. The Elves had no pressing need to move against them. For all his help, Sauron was a laibility to the Orcs, with the entire machinery of the Valars and the Elves geared against him. With Sauron gone the Orcs were able to forge new allainaces. Being governedshabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123936023090480542005-08-13T05:25:00.000-07:002005-08-13T05:27:03.090-07:00Popularity of Tolkien How popular is Tolkien? Many consider him to be the leading story teller of the 21st century. His books have been read by millions. Movies on his books are amongst the top grossers of all times. A quantitative measure is the number of pages Google indexes for various middle earth terms. So I did some googling and came up with these reults.
orcs:658,00
elves:1,650,000
tolkien:3,040,000
shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123605122093781332005-08-09T09:32:00.000-07:002005-08-09T09:32:02.096-07:00Was Tolkien a racist?Before commenting on this question I would like to make a disclaimer. I am a really big fan of Tolkien. Have read and reread most( all?) of his books, and owe some of my best time to them. But yet, yes Tolokien was a racist. This is a accusation often labelled against him. And this question has been discussed to death. So what you read here might not be very new or novel.
In all of his writing, shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123532164549889412005-08-08T13:16:00.000-07:002005-08-08T13:16:04.553-07:00Lord of the Rings Fanatics Tour: MordorI am writing "the OrcStory" because:
Tolkien wrote his story damn stark black and white. Elves are good Orcs are bad. Tolkiens story is told from the side of Elves. To greyen this story a little, to put forward the Orcish perspective, I write this Story.
Tolkiens story is undemocratic and dynastic. X was great coz he was the son of Y. No one became great by their works, they all shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123531361228005222005-08-08T13:02:00.000-07:002005-08-08T13:02:41.230-07:00Chronology of Ages, Orcish perspective: Second ageThis does not match exactly with Tolkien as they are the Orcs accounts of the story.
1. Sauron with the leftover of the dark citcle returns to the desolate lands of Mordor and starts making a stronghold there. Orcs, on the run on alll sides retreat to Mordor.
2. Stronghold of Barad-dur in Mordor completed.
3. Middle earth has relative peace for a long time with both sides nursing their shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123528165777358782005-08-08T12:00:00.000-07:002005-08-08T12:09:25.780-07:00
Here are some maps of middle earth. I have not made these maps and claim no cpyright over this. They were with me for a long time and if they infringe any copy right let me know and I will remove them.shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123499793258246532005-08-08T04:16:00.000-07:002005-08-08T04:16:33.260-07:00Chronology of Ages, Orcish perspective: First ageThis is not from Tolkien. Using his story as a base I am telling Orcs view of Middle Earth.
1. Arose in middle earth at the same time as Elves
2. Both were just small tribes in the beginning. Orcs preferred day while Elves preferred day.
3. When both grew large enough, the nearby resources were not large enough to maintain both tribes. As a result fighting broke out between them. At this shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123499121243308082005-08-08T04:05:00.000-07:002005-08-08T04:05:21.246-07:00Story of the Orcs in the First Age.This is NOT from Tolkien. I am using his story as base and then telling the Orcs view of the story.
Orcs arose in the middle earth about same time as the Elves. They all claim descent to one of the of the eight Orc fathers. The chief and the mightiest amongst them was Gorukh and as homage to him the orcs call themselves Oruk or Orc to outsiders.
It was a member of his tribe that first met theshabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123498192373048352005-08-08T03:49:00.000-07:002005-08-08T03:49:52.373-07:00The races.Tolkien has described elves as the epitome of goodness. They are loving, caring, fond of art, music, dancing and the like. On the other extreme are the orcs .they represent all that is bad. They are jealous, squabbling, fighting amongst themselves and have no care for arts and music. Between them lie humans, dwarves, hobbits and the like. They have shades of grey. Humans have helped both dark andshabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123497978133526842005-08-08T03:46:00.000-07:002005-08-08T03:46:18.136-07:00Story of the Middle Earth as told by Tolkien.It is in chronological order. Though I have tried to keep all facts correct some may be wrong.
1. Valar, children of gods thought created.
2. Discord amongst the valar,dark and light sides , led respectively by melkor and manwe divide.
3. God shows them a dream,the craetion of the world. Valar want to realise it.
4. Both dark and light sides join to realise this great dream.
5. Second strifeshabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123496723501917372005-08-08T03:25:00.000-07:002005-08-08T03:25:23.503-07:00Top reasons why Orcs are beter than Elves
They are faithful. Never in any age did they change sides, or betrayed their allies. The elves on the other side, had dealings with the dark valars many times. The Noldeian elves were won over. The rings of power were formed by the elves themselves.
They are not treachorous or cunning. They didnot take away the gifts Illuvatar had meant for all of his children; Orcs, Elves, Humans all shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123488658242242642005-08-08T01:10:00.000-07:002005-08-08T01:10:58.243-07:00Were the orcs so bad?In the novel LOTR ( If you donot know what LOTR is, donot read any further), Tolkien portrays, the orcs as the most vile of all the races. They are epitome of all that is bad, and Elves are the epitome of all that is good. But here I will tell the Middle earth as the Orcs saw it. The Middle Earth which was as theirs as of the Elves or Humans. The Middle Earth which was a hell for them coutsey theshabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123441613915331692005-08-07T12:06:00.000-07:002005-08-07T12:06:53.916-07:00Blogger: DashboardHere I will post the orcs view of the middle age life.shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15196444.post-1123934973606283261990-08-13T04:50:00.000-07:002005-08-13T05:09:33.610-07:00Popularity of TolkienHow popular is Tolkien? Many consider him to be the leading story teller of the 21st century. His books have been read by millions. Movies on his books are amongst the top grossers of all times. A quantitative measure is the number of pages Google indexes for various middle earth terms. So I did some googling and came up with these reults.
orcs:658,00
elves:1,650,000
tolkien:3,040,000
middle shabdahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07961528262493927188noreply@blogger.com