tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14973022.post4456744473529226843..comments2007-10-18T22:33:55.927ZComments on TillerMaN's Blog Spot: Absolute Poker Cheating ScandalTillerMaNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09915372792045776533noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14973022.post-22578485084654421362007-10-18T22:33:00.000Z2007-10-18T22:33:00.000ZIt always amazes me how you can have people that a...It always amazes me how you can have people that are clever enough to put together a scam that works but dumb enough to blow it!!!<BR/><BR/>Assuming for a minute that I could pull of such a scam physically and morally I'd never get caught. It's not hard!<BR/><BR/>For example, 2-3 table NL$2000 on a site that offers higher levels. Occasionally, take shots but stick mainly to NL$2000. Now using the hole car information play a normal game! In that if you normally BTN raise 78s and you see the BB has KK you still raise. Maybe you occasionally, 4-bet bluff him light knowing he's going to push. Deliberately lose hands you'd often lose and restrict your hero calls considerably. If you get KK and hero has AA you stack off - always!! Generally just play a normal game but win 10% more pots, 10% more bluffs, get that little extra value when ahead, sneak out the back door a little earlier when behind and deliberately managed good, bad and break even runs. I'd actually sit down and deliberately play break-even or losing play for like 20-50,000 hands. Once or twice a year. Manifest 10k hot runs at 15ptbb/100 and manage your overall performance to around 7ptbb/100. A healthy win rate but probably not enough to arise suspicion in itself.<BR/><BR/>Now do the math:<BR/><BR/>14 x $20 x 275 hands per hour = $770. Now 20h a week, 40 weeks a year and you make a virtually undetectable $616,000 a year. Add more hours, or factor in a few 'lucky' shots at higher levels or a nice MTT win and you can make a million a year easily with very little risk. How dumb are these people.<BR/><BR/>If you really want to make a big score and get out after a year or two building up a million+ bankroll take on the highest levels beat them to hell and maybe end on a big rush to make a few million. Walk away, retire, tell your grand kids about it. But don't be a moron and get greedy.<BR/><BR/>It's like the MIT card counters (block, etc). As usual they pushed it too hard and too far!Kennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18225957722321120681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14973022.post-19544081665487963662007-10-18T15:59:00.000Z2007-10-18T15:59:00.000ZI'm glad you're mentionning it again on you blog T...I'm glad you're mentionning it again on you blog TillerMaN. What I find really disgusting in this instance is all the players who simply refused to admit, despite tantamount evidence, that some player(s) could see the hole cards. Some people will always lower others saying <I>"you're a paranoid"</I>. But these very people actually often lack the brain cells allowing logical reasonning. Not only was it crystal clear from statistical analysis from the start that something was deeply wrong, every single piece of evidence that came later on prooved that cheating did indeed occur, not the contrary. I hope Absolute issues a statement on their homepage and take serious measures (like buying another engine, re-imbursing players who were scammed, etc.). At that moment all these people with blinders on, refusing to see the obvious, can eat the f*cking words coming out of their big mouths.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14973022.post-39105757732598918632007-10-18T11:29:00.000Z2007-10-18T11:29:00.000Zwhy does rekrul find spiritual morality attached t...why does rekrul find spiritual morality attached to the man made finance system?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14973022.post-81438355999424767572007-10-18T07:34:00.000Z2007-10-18T07:34:00.000Znice to knowthxnice to know<BR/><BR/>thxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14973022.post-38434322642146597922007-10-18T02:46:00.000Z2007-10-18T02:46:00.000Zlike how u pick this up, read on poker king how di...like how u pick this up, read on poker king how dissapointed he is that no big site points this out<BR/><BR/>tiller saves the world!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14973022.post-12514070371015029692007-10-18T02:37:00.000Z2007-10-18T02:37:00.000Zbest post E V E Ryou are my hero tillerman.playhar...best post E V E R<BR/><BR/>you are my hero tillerman.<BR/><BR/><BR/>playhard@dailyquiz.chAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com