<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435</id><updated>2009-11-21T04:19:43.989Z</updated><title type='text'>Obsolete</title><subtitle type='html'>Inexorable leftist gibbering from someone somewhere.  ||  "Our press, which you appear to regard as being free ... is the most enslaved and the vilest thing." -- William Cobbett. || “Tridents (sic) are not weapons of mass destruction.” -- Nadine Dorries MP</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.septicisle.info/atom.xml'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>2195</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-4626899780888914096</id><published>2009-11-20T21:38:00.003Z</published><updated>2009-11-20T22:36:07.225Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Binyam Mohamed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='extraordinary rendition'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='David Miliband'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='torture'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rendition'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='special relationship'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Labour'/><title type='text'>The war against evidence of torture continues.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;How then goes our glorious government's consistent attempts to stop any primary evidence emerging of our collusion in, if not open acceptance of the use of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/labels/torture.html"&gt;torture&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; when it came to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/labels/rendition.html"&gt;interrogating suspects&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; caught up in TWAT (the war against terror)?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;This week brought rulings to please both sides.  Yesterday, for the sixth straight time in a row, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/19/court-rejects-miliband-cia-request"&gt;the high court rejected the claims&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; of the Foreign Office that to reveal seven paragraphs of a CIA memo sent to MI5 and MI6, a memo which almost certainly details the "treatment" which Binyam Mohamed was being subjected to whilst detained in Pakistan, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/12/torture-foreign-office-miliband-judge"&gt;would damage national security and could potentially stop the CIA sharing information with us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  This is, as the judges have repeatedly argued, preposterous.  According to them, the memo contains no actual secret intelligence, instead rather a summary sent to the intelligence services on Mohamed.  What the memo almost certainly does contain though is prima facie evidence that MI5 and MI6 knew years before they previously claimed that the US was either conniving in or actively mistreating prisoners indirectly under their care or supervision.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;In the latest ruling, the judges make clear that one of the paragraphs makes reference to the infamous &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bybee_memo"&gt;Bybee memo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/04/torturers-justifying-to-themselves-they.html"&gt;released by the Obama administration earlier in the year&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  The Bybee memo details exactly how Abu Zubaydah, then the most senior al-Qaida operative in US custody, could be tortured, supposedly without breaching the prohibition against torture in the United States code.  In a section which remains redacted, there is apparently a verbatim quote from the memo: apparently we can't see what the Americans have already released to the world.  To infer, it looks as if the memo is justifying, or explaining to the intelligence services in this country, that Mohamed will be or has been treated in a similar fashion, and that because Bybee OKed it, there's nothing to worry about on the legality front.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;The real reason then why the government is so determined to keep this memo secret is that it contradicts everything they have maintained over the alleged intelligence service collusion with torture.  Not just the government story, but also the story which the intelligence services themselves have continuously thrust down our throats.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2007/07/rendition-whitewash-is-applied.html"&gt;They told the intelligence and security committee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; that they only joined together the dots on what the CIA was doing when the Abu Ghraib scandal broke, claiming that despite knowing about the rendition programme, there was "no automatic connection between secret facilities and mistreatment".  To call this laughable would be putting it too lightly; that the ISC believed this most blatant of lies, this lack of intellectual curiosity and complete failure to put two and two together is why it ought to be disbanded and a watchdog with real power to monitor the security services immediately set-up in its place.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;While however the government will yet again appeal against the high court ruling, they must have been utterly delighted with the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/nov/18/secret-services-can-hide-evidence"&gt;one made in the same parish by Mr Justice Silber&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  On Wednesday he ruled that MI5, MI6 and the police can potentially withhold evidence from defendants and their lawyers in any civil case, if it is determined to be "secret government information" which they seek.  As the Binyam Mohamed memo case shows, what can be determined to be "secret government information" is remarkably elastic.  Not that MI5, MI6 or the government could decide personally what is secret or isn't, oh no.  Instead "special advocates", presumably the same that act for those being held on control orders and who can't be specifically told on what information their movement and rights are being restricted will decide.  As Louise Christian complained afterwards, the judge's ruling effectively allows  "government to rely on secret evidence in the ordinary civil courts ... a constitutional outrage".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;As one window opens slightly, another is slammed shut.  Not that is just us and the Americans who have disgraced ourselves: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/20/canada-allegations-complicit-torture-afghanistan"&gt;even the Canadians are finding that "the good war" means handing over captives to the Afghan intelligence services&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, and with it almost certainly into their torture dungeons.  Interesting is the way that the Canadians are attacking Richard Colvin's credibility, just as the government has repeatedly done the same against the whistleblowers here.  The taint on all of us is going to take an awfully long time to lift.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-4626899780888914096?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/4626899780888914096/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=4626899780888914096&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/4626899780888914096'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/4626899780888914096'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/war-against-evidence-of-torture.html' title='The war against evidence of torture continues.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-714179769398602683</id><published>2009-11-19T20:55:00.004Z</published><updated>2009-11-19T21:03:14.941Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Michael Gove'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='immigration'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='education'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dumbing down'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ed Balls'/><title type='text'>Dumbing down Michael Gove style.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;I'm not the biggest fan of Ed Balls, but anything that makes Michael Gove look like an utter tit is fine by me, via &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.johnband.org/blog/2009/11/19/dumbing-down/"&gt;John B&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;center style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/mNR0AuGnoUg&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/mNR0AuGnoUg&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;While over at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/19/the-truth-about-immigration/"&gt;Lib Con we're promised a series of articles on immigration&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, which look set to be essential reading.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-714179769398602683?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/714179769398602683/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=714179769398602683&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/714179769398602683'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/714179769398602683'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/dumbing-down-michael-gove-style.html' title='Dumbing down Michael Gove style.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-3761543280090892864</id><published>2009-11-18T21:10:00.004Z</published><updated>2009-11-18T22:51:37.343Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='David Cameron'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Queen&apos;s speech'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gordon Brown'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nick Clegg'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Labour'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the new Tories'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>The Queen's last gasp.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;The obvious response &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8365163.stm"&gt;to the Queen's speech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; would to be to class it as the last gasp gesture of a government on its death bed; the sole remaining embers of a cigarette burnt down to the very end, offering not even the slightest nicotine kick; the last words of the condemned before being dropped through the trapdoor.  For once, the obvious response is also the right one, although not necessarily for the reasons detailed by either Cameron or Clegg.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Clegg, in the increasingly hysterical fashion in which he seems to be deciding is the best way to lead his party, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cancel-the-queens-speech-ndash-and-save-democracy-1821244.html"&gt;declared that the entire speech should have been cancelled so that politics could be "fixed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;".  Cameron too, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/18/david-cameron-queens-speech"&gt;complained that "the biggest omission" was the cleaning up of expenses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  Considering that the proposals from Sir Christopher Kelly in the main do not change anything with any great immediacy, except for the intake at the next election, the only real reason for urgency is to prove who has the hairiest shirt, as it was before.  Clegg at least has purer motives in wanting the changing of the way we do politics as a whole, but the emphasis which both are continuing to place on the expenses scandal only encourages the view that nothing has changed, when it simply isn't the case.  True, the complete changing of our system which some rather hopefully imagined might happen has not arrived, but then neither Labour and especially not the Tories have it in their interests to implement the likes of electoral reform.  We're going to have to make do with what we have for now, and further alienating politics from the majority is not going to have a happy ending.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;That said, there's not exactly anything to inspire absolutely anyone in this final dirge of bills.  Labour has, unless it's saving the big hitters for the election, finally ran out of any remaining ideas it had.  Cameron's ridiculously hyperbolic claim that this was the "most divisive, short-termist and shamelessly self-serving Queen's speech in living memory" was wrong, not because it's divisive, self-serving or short-termist, but because it serves absolutely no one, certainly not Labour themselves.  The Tories will obviously claim that the commitment to end child poverty by 2020 is meant to embarrass them once they take over, but it would embarrass whoever's in power.  Can anyone seriously believe that child poverty in its entirety will be ended at any point in time, let alone in 11 short years, without corners being cut or pledges being subtlety altered?  Capitalism itself ensures that there will always be winners and losers; the poor, as the Bible earnestly predicted, will always be with us.  It is, like Nick Clegg said while criticising the fiscal responsibility bill with its equivalent pledge of halving the deficit within 4 years, like legislating the pledge to get up in the morning, an empty gesture.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Empty gestures were however the order of the day, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/18/queens-speech-ed-balls-education"&gt;as Jenni Russell ruthlessly exposed in her critique of the "pupil and parent guarantees"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; in the education bill.  Politics by magic wand is though increasingly popular: it's the exact same nonsense as "sending a message", whether it's through foreign policy or on drugs, somehow imagining that by raising cannabis back up to Class B the kids will realise that this isn't a safe drug after all and so reject it in favour of those other legal highs, the ones which the government isn't also attempting to criminalise.  There was yet another in the Equality Bill, with the public sector having a duty to narrow the gap between rich and poor.  Will this be done by cutting the ridiculous salaries which some chief executives on councils and other managerial types take home and "redistributing" them to the lower paid in the public sector?  I somehow doubt it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;We should perhaps be grateful for small mercies.  While there is an umpteenth crime bill, making it even easier for the police to carry stop and searches, which is simply guaranteed to cut crime at a stroke and have no negative consequences whatsoever, there is no new immigration bill.  Missing though was the health bill, which was odd enough to prompt Cameron to ask where it was, even while he was lambasting the government for being addicted to "more big government and spending" and also the housing bill, both of which would have been popular with core Labour supporters.  Perhaps they're being saved for the manifesto, but it does show that for Cameron's claim that this was all about electioneering (politics, in a Queen's speech, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/18/queens-speech-politics-labour"&gt;as Martin Kettle notes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, how horrible!) Labour still hasn't brought out the really big guns as yet.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;It did however make you wonder what the point of the entire exercise was.  How many of these bills will actually make it to the statute book is impossible to know.  That there are only 33 legislative days in the Lords though between January and when an election is likely to be called suggests that it won't be many, if any.  Everyone in essence was going through the motions, gearing up for the real fight, which is still some distance away.  Perhaps the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh could have been given the day off and some random individuals pulled off the street, put in fancy dress and lead in to read the interminable goatskin vellum.  It would have been a sight more authentic than Cameron and Brown pretending to talk to each other as they walked into the Lords.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-3761543280090892864?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/3761543280090892864/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=3761543280090892864&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/3761543280090892864'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/3761543280090892864'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/queens-last-gasp.html' title='The Queen&apos;s last gasp.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-6326483419911853330</id><published>2009-11-17T22:27:00.000Z</published><updated>2009-11-17T22:27:50.951Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Graham Dudman'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='abuses by tabloids'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scum-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Glen Jenvey'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TERROR TARGET SUGAR'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Press Complaints Commission'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sun-watch'/><title type='text'>The Sun's non-birthday and Graham Dudman's letter to the PCC.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;How can you trust a newspaper which even lies about its age?  The Sun itself &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/40th/"&gt;would have you believe that today is its 40th birthday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, as would the adverts which the paper is running, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29lnTcbYlgI"&gt;featuring various "celebrities" quoting some of its more famous headlines&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, although strangely it omits both &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotcha_%28headline%29#Controversy"&gt;"GOTCHA!"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster#The_Sun_newspaper_controversy"&gt;"THE TRUTH"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, just as (in)famous as the others mentioned.  The only real significant thing about 40 years ago today is that it was the first time &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotcha_%28headline%29#History"&gt;the paper was published as a tabloid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; - it had been a broadsheet since the 15th of September 1964, after emerging from the ashes of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Herald#The_fourth_Daily_Herald.2C_1930.E2.80.931964"&gt;Daily Herald&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; - and under the ownership of a certain Rupert Murdoch.  He also lied from the very start - he told the IPC, whom he bought it from, that it would be a "straightfoward, honest newspaper".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Murdoch's pledge that it would always be a straightforward, honest newspaper, has naturally been carried down over the years from hack to hack, from editor to editor.  During Rebekah Wade's reign, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4258455.stm"&gt;Graham Dudman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, the paper's managing editor, did almost all the required television and radio interviews and appearances, as Wade herself was too shy and retiring, as well &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003/mar/12/sun.pressandpublishing"&gt;as liable also to put her foot in it&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  In the same way it seems, rather than the editor herself respond to such nuisances as a letter from the Press Complaints Commission investigating an article potentially in breach of its code, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/11/graham_dudman.asp"&gt;it fell instead to Dudman to do it&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  At long last, Tim over at Bloggerheads has posted the letter which Dudman sent to the PCC in response to their request for more information over the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/labels/Glen%20Jenvey.html"&gt;"TERROR TARGET SUGAR" Glen Jenvey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; report back in January.  It makes for a highly revealing insight into how the tabloids regard both the PCC and those that complain to the organisation:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The complaint suggests that "the intent of the thread was to start a polite letter writing campaign to persuade the influential Jewish people that what Israel is doing in Gaza is wrong". With respect, we do not agree that the intent of the thread was simply to start a "polite letter writing campaign". It is clear from even just a cursory review that the Website carries numerous extreme views and is widely used by Islamic extremists to discuss radical and/or extremist subjects. We have reviewed both the thread which prompted the article and other threads on the Website and we have no doubt that it was reasonable for The Sun to describe the Website as a "fanatics website". For example, the Website contains one message board entitled "Does anyone here recognise Israel's right to exist" which contains threads that include quotes such as "Muslims are a patient people. Jews are a greedy people. Who will win in the end?" (posted by 'AbuMusaab' at 7:56am on 4 January 2009); "you are a fool if you think that the Muslims will let you live in peace" (posted by 'SunniHammer' at 8:39am on 4 January 2009); and "you won't find any peace until all of you thieves were kicked out from the Palestine inshallah" (posted by 'Ammarcool' at 9:56am on 4 January 2009). These are just three examples.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;In light of this, in our view, to regard Islamic extremists as being in the business of sending "polite letters" is naive and extreme. This is based on the expert opinion of Glen Jenvey, an expert in radical Islam. In any event, as a matter of common knowledge, we are unaware of a single incident of Islamic extremists writing polite letters. It is quite obviously a euphemism which almost does not require expert opinion to establish.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Rather then than even allow a modicum of respect for the complainer, Dudman sets out from the very beginning to smear Ummah.com, just indeed as Jenvey himself did.  Just as you could cherry-pick from the MySun forums what could be regarded as "extreme" views, the Sun finds a few predictably hot-headed opinions, as was the mood back in January, and presents this as evidence that the site was and is an extremist hotbed.  Such extremists couldn't possibly then conceive of such a polite and dignified way of expressing their opinion by sending "polite letters"; it simply has to be a euphemism.  And what's more, our expert, Glen Jenvey, says so.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Dudman then goes on to contradict himself:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;The matters raised in the article are plainly matters of public interest. Exposing, even at the earliest of stages, a proposed conspiracy to cause harm to prominent British Jews is a matter that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;The Sun&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt; is and should be free to report. It is not the case that public interest is and can only be served by reporting such matters to the police.&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Err, except the Sun is only claiming that a list was to be drawn up, or so Dudman claims.  Even at earliest stages?  This drawing up, as noted previously, was hardly moving fast and "Abuislam", aka Jenvey, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/01/scum-watch-letter-writers-turned-into.html"&gt;had to keep bumping the thread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; to get any sort of story which he could sell on.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;Central to the complaint is the suggestion that Glen Jenvey, the terrorism expert quoted by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;The Sun&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt; in the article is connected to (or in fact may possibly be) a freelance journalist called 'Richard Tims'. Additionally the complaint suggests that it was 'Richard Tims' who posted the thread on the Website using the avatar 'Abuislam' which is referred to in the article. We have spoken to Mr Jenvey regarding the complaint, particularly in relation to the allegation that he is in some way connected to 'Richard Tims'. Mr Jenvey has categorically denied that he is, or that he uses the name, 'Richard Tims' or, indeed, that he ever met anyone by that name. Mr Jenvey also denies that he ever posted any threads on the Website.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Well, to quote Mandy Rice-Davis, seeing as we're going back 40 years plus today, he would say that, wouldn't he?  Since then Jenvey has of course admitted that he was Abuislam, and as a result the Sun, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/09/some-closure-to-glen-jenveyterror.html"&gt;in its half-hearted apology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, put all the blame on him.  That this was a complete failure to abide by the most basic practices of journalism, that you check and check again, and that you don't rely on the word of just one person unless you absolutely have to is neither here nor there for this straightfoward, honest newspaper.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;We should add that Mr Jenvey is an extremely well respected expert on terrorism who has contributed to various radio and television programmes in this country. In this respect, we make the following points:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Since the letter was written Jenvey has been completely discredited.  It's true that Jenvey didn't just dupe the Sun, but also the likes of the BBC repeatedly, and that reflects badly on all involved.  That doesn't however excuse the Sun from relying on others rather conducting its own investigation into Jenvey's credentials.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;5. To confirm, Mr Jenvey was not paid for his contribution to the article.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;As Tim points out, this is a nifty piece of sleight of hand by Dudman.  Jenvey almost certainly was paid by the Sun, but indirectly, through the South West News Service news agency which supplied the paper with the story to begin with.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;The complainant would also be trying to discredit Mr Jenvey (and by implication the article published in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;The Sun&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt; on 7 January) without any foundation. In this respect, the complaint includes a link to a website (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;u style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/01/glen_jenvey_has.asp&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;) which contains a number of extremely serious allegations against Mr Jenvey. As well as the allegation that Mr Jenvey, 'Richard Tims' and 'Abuislam' are all one and the same, which I deal with above, the website also makes a number of personal attacks on Mr Jenvey. Those attacks include allegations, amongst many others, regarding Mr Jenvey's sexuality as well as claims that he is a paedophile (eg &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;i style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;"or is it that he likes young muslin boys around?"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;). Mr Jenvey categorically denies that he is a paedophile. In this respect, we understand that Mr Jenvey has been in a stable relationship for the past 16 years. The website also contains a purported interview with an individual claiming to be Mr Jenvey's daughter. This interview is manifestly false. Mr Jenvey does not have a daughter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;It's best here to quote Tim again:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;Unlike other 'leading' bloggers, I take responsibility for the comments that appear on my website, but it cannot be stressed enough that the 'daughter' content did not originate on my site, and was instead repeated under comments as part of a background information dump by a well-meaning comment contributor. It was irrelevant to the body of the post, and was publicly dismissed as irrelevant the time. In this letter, Dudman only makes passing mention of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" href="http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/01/glen_jenvey_has.asp"&gt;the body of the post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt; (i.e. the part containing key evidence showing their expert to be a fraud) and instead focuses on the comments underneath, greatly misrepresenting their content and context in many ways, not the least of which being:&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; - The 'paedophile' text (as with the other text about Jenvey's daughter) was mirrored information from another website posted to my website as a comment, and allowed as background only. It did not originate from me, nor was it highlighted, encouraged or expanded upon in any way. The Sun imply otherwise. Further, the text The Sun claim was published by me 'to discredit Glen Jenvey' does not accuse Glen Jenvey of being a paedophile, as a wider quote from that passage reveals ("'is bin laden a gay? or is it that he just likes young muslin boys around? is jihad a form of child sex?"). The comment is about Osama Bin Laden, and was originally posted to ummah.com under the name 'saddam01', which according to Ummah.com is yet another alias of... Glen Jenvey! Yes, the 'paedophile' text wasn't *about* Glen Jenvey, and it was most likely written *by* Glen Jenvey! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;(As many of you are aware, Glen Jenvey later went on to falsely accuse me of being a paedophile. &lt;a href="http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/03/how_nice.asp"&gt; Repeatedly. On hundreds of websites.&lt;/a&gt; What role this letter/accusation played in that decision and if Jenvey was confused enough to believe that I had done anything like that to him is unknown at this time.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;It has to be said that both myself and Tim deeply regret and apologise for linking to, providing space for and discussing &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/01/scum-watch-glen-jenvey-unmasked-as.html"&gt;the supposed interview with Jenvey's "daughter"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  In mitigation, as soon as we became aware that the "interview" was probably not genuine, we put up disclaimers, and when it became apparent that it was false, I removed the information completely from my post without any prompting.  Are we perhaps ourselves then hypocrites for so quickly latching onto that information?  More than possibly.  Is it something we've learned from and will not be repeating?  Most certainly.  The same can hardly be said for the Sun on that score.  At least though we didn't claim in correspondence to the press regulator that our source had been smeared as a paedophile by the complainant when the source himself then went on to, err, smear the person who exposed him as a fraud in exactly the same terms.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;It is our view, from what I set out above, that the complainant has not been full and frank with the PCC, both as to the nature of the information discussed on the Website and the implication that Mr Jenvey was in some way responsible for posting one of the threads referred to in the article. This is a further matter which should be taken into consideration.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;If it hadn't been for Jenvey finally admitting on the Donal MacIntyre show that he had been Abuislam and the entire report was a fabrication, then Dudman's attempts at smearing Ummah.com might well have succeeded.  As we've seen over the last week, with the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.pcc.org.uk/news/index.html?article=NjAyOQ=="&gt;PCC "investigation"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; into the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/07/dark-arts-come-back-to-haunt-andy.html"&gt;Guardian's allegations about phone hacking at the News of the World&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, the PCC is the kind of organisation that is only willing to take even the slightest action when it catches newspapers breaking the code the equivalent of red-handed.  Even then the Sun only ran an apology on its 12th page, when the initial report had been a front page splash, and in effect took no responsibility, instead heaping it all on Jenvey's shoulders.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/nov/17/guardian-editor-resigns-pcc"&gt;Alan Rusbridger's resignation from the PCC's code committee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, almost certainly a reaction to the whitewash it produced over the NotW phone hacking, where it effectively condemned the Guardian more than it did the NotW, might yet trigger some soul-searching at a regulator which has never been weaker than it is now.  That is though just how those who fund it and sit on its boards like it; it will take a scandal even bigger than the Jenvey one or even the furore over Jan Moir's homophobia to persuade the industry that its regulator needs some teeth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-6326483419911853330?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/6326483419911853330/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=6326483419911853330&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/6326483419911853330'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/6326483419911853330'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/suns-non-birthday-and-graham-dudmans.html' title='The Sun&apos;s non-birthday and Graham Dudman&apos;s letter to the PCC.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-5008282736082251164</id><published>2009-11-16T23:23:00.002Z</published><updated>2009-11-16T23:24:43.146Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cushy prisons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='crime'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scum-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='crime policies'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Labour'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prisons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sun-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>Scum-watch: Getting it completely wrong on Labour's record on crime and prisons.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Having &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://the-sun-lies.blogspot.com/2009/11/its-called-scum-for-reason.html"&gt;attacked Gordon Brown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="post-edit.g?blogID=3796962133576484410&amp;amp;postID=238934511572043061"&gt;personally last week&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; and came off the worst for it, this week the Sun seems to have decided to stand on surer ground, by attacking Labour on crime. Problem is, it can't seem to do so without telling some whopping great lies, as today's leader shows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: georgia;" class="article"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;p class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/sun_says/article244723.ece"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Prison policy, in particular, has become a joke.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/sun_says/article244723.ece"&gt; Early on, Labour decided not to build more jails and instead focus on alternatives to prison and early release for prisoners. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;In 1997 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&amp;amp;q=cache:oAFXrOHUVJcJ:www.justice.gov.uk/about/docs/stats-prison-pop-sep08.pdf+UK+prison+places+and+population+1997&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;gl=uk&amp;amp;pid=bl&amp;amp;srcid=ADGEESgWnZbpPaS4Q6A9eKh2eq_cOMKVTBz7jiMRgUL2vLYltm5Ve8BavNoqCQrLyZRrAoBKCUX6SpV_KlTJlLUm9ktnW0PAvSAppGVOBjdyyZtDHGdYTxhz0ete5grOjSGqlTDKKTjw&amp;amp;sig=AFQjCNEqiYea4YpnkvBAWKwiZxnv4YvKKA"&gt;the average prison population was 61,470&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; (page 4).  The population &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://countrycode.sitestat.com/homeoffice/prisons/s?document.1000492E13112009_web_report.doc&amp;amp;ns_type=pdf&amp;amp;ns_url=[http://www.hmprisonservice.gov.uk/assets/documents/1000492E13112009_web_report.doc]"&gt;last Friday was 84,593&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; (DOC), a rise in just 12 years of more than 20,300. I can't seem to find any concrete figures on just what the total number of places available in 1997 was, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/feb/27/prisonsandprobation"&gt;but ministers themselves boast that they have created over 20,000 additional places&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, and the Prison Reform Trust agrees, noting in this year's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/documents/download.asp?lvid=1164&amp;amp;id=1877"&gt;Bromley report&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; that the number of places has increased by 33% since the party came to power (page 5). By any yardstick, the creation of over 20,000 places is a massive increase. Labour's real success is that despite increasing the population so massively, there are still not enough places to go round, hence the early release scheme which the Sun and the Conservatives so decry without providing anything approaching an alternative solution. As statements of fact go, the Sun's claim that "Labour decided not to build more jails" could not be more wrong.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;This coincided with ill-judged policies on late drinking, softening drug laws and over-reliance on cautions, all of which increased crime. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;In actual fact, and predictably, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/21/in-which-your-host-is-proved-right/"&gt;levels of alcohol related crime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3196124/24-hour-drinking-makes-towns-like-the-Wild-West.html"&gt;have changed little&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;. There is no evidence whatsoever that softening the drug laws, of which only the law on cannabis was briefly softened, increased crime, unless you count the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.jrf.org.uk/media-centre/cannabis-reclassification-saving-police-time-and-money-major-policing-inconsistencies-r"&gt;massive rise in cautions given out for possession&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1388385/Cannabis-cautions-save-police-time.html"&gt;wasting the time of everyone involved&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;. Lastly, there is little evidence also that giving out more cautions increases the likelihood of re-offending. You can in fact probably narrow it down to two groups: those who would have re-offended regardless of the punishment they received and those for whom it was an aberration. The problem with cautions is the effect it has on the victims of the crime, and the implications for the justice in general, not that they increase crime.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; which may previously have resulted in someone going to court for having a tiny amount of resin in their position, &lt;p style="font-family: georgia;" class="article"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;p class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;The result? More criminals ought to be behind bars. But there is nowhere to  send them.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; Instead, jails and secure hospitals operate more as short-stay hotels.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; Today The Sun reports on a murderer who hacked a mother and son to death but  is on day release after just six years.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Not an exactly representative example: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2730963/Indefinite-sentence-butcher-Gregory-Davis-freed.html"&gt;Gregory Davis pleaded guilty to manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, hence he is not a "murderer", as the leader claims. Psychiatrists now think that he has recovered to an extent to which he is not a danger to the public, on which I'm more inclined to trust them then I am the Sun.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: georgia;" class="article"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;p class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;Weekends out of jail for lags have trebled in the past two years.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; Labour deny this has anything to do with easing prison pressure. But the facts  speak for themselves.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; Last year, 11,599 prisoners were let out for four-day breaks.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt; In 2006 the figure was only 3,813.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Is the Sun on to something here? Not to judge by the figures themselves: the latest show that there is room for around 900 more prisoners currently; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://countrycode.sitestat.com/homeoffice/prisons/s?document.1000206E25082006_web_report.doc&amp;amp;ns_type=pdf&amp;amp;ns_url=[http://www.hmprisonservice.gov.uk/assets/documents/1000206E25082006_web_report.doc]"&gt;back in August 2006&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; (DOC), to pick one set of figures at random, there were only 700 spaces available.  Indeed, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://countrycode.sitestat.com/homeoffice/prisons/s?document.1000230D27102006_web_report.doc&amp;amp;ns_type=pdf&amp;amp;ns_url=[http://www.hmprisonservice.gov.uk/assets/documents/1000230D27102006_web_report.doc]"&gt;in October 2006&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, Operation Safeguard was in effect, with prisoners being held in police cells. Surely if weekends out were meant to ease prison pressure there would have been more let out back in 2006 when it was much more desperately needed. Is it not more likely that these breaks, meant to help those shortly to be released to readjust to life outside as well as for general rehabilitation are being used more widely because of the relative success of doing so?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;Labour's soft approach even makes life cosy  inside:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; Convicts at Chelmsford jail enjoyed a talent show.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;And what a talent show it was!  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2731308/Britains-jails-are-so-full-that-200-are-sent-home-every-weekend.html"&gt;Costing a whole £1,500&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, it seems the kind of thing that might actually help prisoners once they are allowed back out into the real world, but the Sun seems to think that prisoners should spend their time either locked up in their "cushy" cells or sewing mail bags.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;Convicted criminals should pay the price - not just as punishment but for the protection of the public. That is the contract on law and order between voters and Parliament.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;Having broken that deal, Labour have no right to criticise the Conservatives when they vow to do better.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;By the same token, the Sun has no right to criticise Labour when it can't even get the very basic facts about the party's record on crime right.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-5008282736082251164?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/5008282736082251164/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=5008282736082251164&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5008282736082251164'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5008282736082251164'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/scum-watch-getting-it-completely-wrong.html' title='Scum-watch: Getting it completely wrong on Labour&apos;s record on crime and prisons.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-5861339194045935070</id><published>2009-11-14T19:48:00.000Z</published><updated>2009-11-14T19:56:37.813Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='weekend round-up'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='weekend links'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='weekend'/><title type='text'>Weekend links.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;As you probably don't know, a glorious publication which has brightened all our lives reached a significant milestone recently.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/visual_arts/article6901208.ece"&gt;Enough about Viz though&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, the Sun has also been celebrating &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2730010/The-Sun-is-Britain-in-a-newspaper-says-Simon-Cowell.html"&gt;its 40th birthday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  In recognition of 40 years of tits, lies and propaganda &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/11/page_3_propaganda.asp"&gt;Tim has put together a rather special video&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; which is well worth your perusal.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://mymarilyn.blogspot.com/2009/11/sun-40-years-of-crap.html"&gt;Claude also has a post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; with a short history of the paper's brilliance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Elsewhere things are rather slow.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/11/murray_to_quill.htm"&gt;Craig Murray has the latest in an increasingly bitter war of words with the Quilliam Foundation's lawyers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, Paul Linford, reflecting on the Sun's misreading of the public mood over Jacqui Janes &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://paullinford.blogspot.com/2009/11/regaining-sympathy-not-same-as.html"&gt;argues that sympathy is not the same as trust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2009/11/14/emotrance-the-new-name-for-bullshit/"&gt;Unity informs us about "EmoTrance"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, not the fusion of emo and trance music, in case you were wondering, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://shirazsocialist.wordpress.com/2009/11/14/those-zionists-just-keep-getting-more-clever/"&gt;voltairespriest has a fascinating post on how Nick Griffin seems to think that the English Defence League is part of a "Zionist false flag" operation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://hopisen.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/ben-brogan-is-a-twit/"&gt;Hopi Sen attacks the idiocy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; which is the view that the poor are betrayed by voting Labour, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://thethirdestate.net/2009/11/iran-vs-saudi-arabia/"&gt;finally Third Estate has an informative piece on the ratcheting up of tension&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; between Iran and Saudi Arabia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;In the papers, or at least on their sites, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/christina-patterson/christina-patterson-didnt-we-have-a-lovely-time-the-day-we-went-to-basra-1820376.html"&gt;Christina Patterson seems to be invoking the Sex Pistols song Holidays in the Sun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; over the plea from the Iraqi tourism minister for visitors to return, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/geoffrey-wheatcroft-gordon-browns-very-public-decline-1820373.html"&gt;Geoffrey Wheatcroft writes an accurate in places and not quite there in others piece on the tragedy of Gordon Brown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, while &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-1227718/PETER-OBORNE-As-Brown-survives-hellish-week-dawning-Cameron-victory-isnt-bag.html"&gt;Peter Oborne thinks Brown has perversely&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; just had his best week in a year.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/13/rupert-murdoch-no-10"&gt;Marina Hyde notes that the partnership between Murdoch and the current incumbent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; or soon to be can only end in tears, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/howard-jacobson/howard-jacobson-nick-griffin-looks-as-if-hed-be-light-on-his-feet-so-heres-what-to-do-with-him-1820375.html"&gt;Howard Jacobson says the best way to deal with Nick Griffin is to put him on Strictly Come Dancing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/andrew-grice/andrew-grice-whisper-it-but-whitehall-is-already-preparing-for-a-change-at-no-10-1820557.html"&gt;Andrew Grice suggests Whitehall is already gearing up for a change of government&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/nov/14/is-x-factor-killing-pop"&gt;Esther Addley considers whether the X Factor is killing pop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  Not just pop, but "mainstream" music as a whole, I'd suggest.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;As for worst tabloid article, we have a choice of two.  First up is the Daily Mail with a fairly standard scare piece &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1227678/The-graphic-sexual-imagery-40-songs-appall-parents--So-know-whats-childs-iPod.html"&gt;over the explicitness of music lyrics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  This from a newspaper which has directly below the article a quite lovely report on &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1227612/Alexandra-Burke.html"&gt;Alexandra Burke's "never-ending legs"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, and how she certainly knows how to "please a crowd".  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/11/lots-of-tits-at-mail.html"&gt;Tabloid Watch points out that a search for cleavage on the Mail's site returns 987 results&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, even more than the equivalent on the Sun's.  The winner though in my eyes is a staggering hatchet job on Professor David Nutt in the Sun, which rather than attacking the man himself &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2729905/Drugs-professors-son-in-spliff-pic-on-net.html"&gt;instead goes for his children via their social networking profiles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  They reproduce a photo of his son Steve with a roll-up in his mouth, claiming it shows him "apparently smoking dope".  I'm no expert, but it looks suspiciously to me like an ordinary roll-up rather than one containing a substance more exotic than tobacco.  Not content with that, his daughter is the next target, her crime having uploaded a photograph with herself with friends carrying a bottle of spirits.  Lastly, eldest son Johnny is raked over the coals for having photographs on his profile of himself naked in the snow in Sweden. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.page3.com"&gt;No hypocrisy there whatsoever, then&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-5861339194045935070?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/5861339194045935070/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=5861339194045935070&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5861339194045935070'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5861339194045935070'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/weekend-links_14.html' title='Weekend links.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-4002707735790528191</id><published>2009-11-13T20:45:00.008Z</published><updated>2009-11-14T18:47:45.395Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='death of politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='death of Labour'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Glasgow North East'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='by-elections'/><title type='text'>The real story from Glasgow North East.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;The story of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8358429.stm"&gt;Glasgow North East by-election is categorically not that Labour won an overwhelming victory&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, especially considering the constituency is effectively a rotten borough for the party.  A loss certainly would have been, though (a story, that is).  It also isn't that the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_North_East"&gt;Conservatives received only 1,075 votes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, or indeed that the British National Party was only 62 votes behind, although it might be if &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/2009/11/tories-smackheads.html"&gt;Chris Dillow's observation that heroin is probably more popular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; than the Tories was more widely disseminated.  Nor is it that unsurprisingly, being a "celebrity", isn't an automatic vote winner: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smeaton_%28baggage_handler%29"&gt;John Smeaton got 258 ballots &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;while &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikey_Hughes#Michael"&gt;Mikey Hughes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, a former Big Brother contestant, got 54.  It also isn't, although it's again interesting, that the Socialist Labour vote completely collapsed on the 2005 result, when they got an astounding 4,036 votes, down this time to an appalling 47, most likely because Labour was on the ballot when it wasn't previously as a result of Michael Martin standing as the "Speaker".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;The real story ought to be the catastrophically low turnout, a derisory 32.9% (Wikipedia has it as 33.2%).  This can't be blamed on the lack of choice: all the main parties stood, as well as three various socialist sects, the BNP, three independents, and the Greens.  While turnouts at by-elections are usually lower than at a general election, you might have thought it would have been the opposite in this instance, as there was far more choice on the ballot than previously due to the main opposition parties traditionally not standing against the Speaker, with their voters coming out this time when they might not have bothered previously.  Instead it dropped from 45.8% in 2005, which was already well below the average of 61%.  Did the expenses scandal have any impact?  Unlikely.  Instead it seems that the people of Glasgow North East, who were already poor before the recession, have lost all faith in politicians of every colour and creed.  The only reassuring thing is that the British National Party didn't do better than their 1,013 votes.  The current consensus is that the turnout is likely to go up next year when there is an actual, genuine alternative to the current government: Glasgow North East might yet prove to be the rule, not the exception.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Update: Slightly edited after &lt;a href="http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/14/the-real-story-from-glasgow-north-east/"&gt;some on Liberal Conspiracy responded with "Eh?" to the first paragraph&lt;/a&gt;, which is what happens when I'm trying to write something reasonably snappy and quickly to boot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-4002707735790528191?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/4002707735790528191/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=4002707735790528191&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/4002707735790528191'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/4002707735790528191'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/real-story-from-glasgow-north-east.html' title='The real story from Glasgow North East.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-1274513167794492336</id><published>2009-11-12T20:20:00.004Z</published><updated>2009-11-12T20:59:41.885Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quilliam Foundation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Craig Murray'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ed Husain'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='legal threats'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bloggocks'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ed Jagger'/><title type='text'>Craig Murray legally threatened by Quilliam Foundation.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;At the beginning of last week &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/continuing-jihad-of-melanie-phillips.html"&gt;I wrote on how Melanie Phillips had responded to an attack on her by Ed Husain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quilliam_Foundation"&gt;Quilliam Foundation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, by making the exact arguments that he predicted she would - attacking him as still being an Islamic extremist despite now dedicating himself to helping those who had became radicalised.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Mel at least didn't set m'learned friends after Husain for his piece.  That is however exactly what &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/11/all_blogger_ale.html"&gt;the Quilliam Foundation has done to Craig Murray after he reported&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, with good faith, that the Foundation, a charity which relies on the government for funding, had not published any accounts as of yet, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/11/public_money_go.html"&gt;in this post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;It does though seem that some of those in Quilliam who have past experience with subterfuge have put it to good use.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/11/quilliam_founda.html"&gt;Yesterday Craig received a phone call&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;A man telephoned me and said that he had been following my blog for some time and was most impressed by it, and would like to know how to make a donation. I replied truly that I was extremely grateful, but the website really was just me, and therefore I did not request donations, unless for some specific expense like an election campaign. &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;You may be surprised to hear that people do not generally phone me up out of the blue and offer cash, so I was a bit suspicious. I did go on and suggest that if he wanted to be helpful he could buy my books, but he lost interest in the conversation very quickly in a manner that just seemed wrong compared to his initial eagerness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Craig continues:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;So when I got a letter today from lawyers threatening libel action, I wondered if this was an attempt to get financial information on what funds they might target. So today I phoned him back. He gave his name as Ed, so I asked directly if he was Ed Husain or Ed Jagger of the Quilliam Foundation. At first he replied "I am not Ed Husain". I had to ask again before he admitted he was indeed Ed Jagger of the Quilliam Foundation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;I put it to him that he had lied when he phoned and said he wanted to make a donation. He said that he just wanted to establish my contact details for the lawyer. I said that if he had asked me openly and honestly, I would have told him. He concluded by saying that any further communication should be through our lawyers (which will be tricky as I can't afford one: Unlike Jagger I am not funded by taxpayers' money.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;I don't suppose there is any law against Mr Jagger telephoning and lying to me about wishing to make a donation. Indeed I would write it off as a harmless ruse, and amusing he had been caught. But for an organisation funded by the taxpayer to telephone someone and lie to them is quite a different thing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Should anyone wish to make that point to Mr Jagger, the number from which he telephoned me was 07780 685592.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Quite charming behaviour, I would say.  Also charming is the lawyer's letter, from Clarke Wilmott LLP, which takes Craig's initial post and reads it in the most hyperbolic fashion imaginable.  Apparently, it "constitute[s] express, clear and obvious statements to the effect that The Quilliam Foundation has acted illegally, that it is engaged in financial and accounting impropriety and that ... this impropriety is directed particularly to reward the directors of The Quilliam Foundation favourably and disproportionately".  A level of disproportionality equivalent to Israel's attack on Gaza, perhaps?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Not that Clarke Wilmott has actually provided any evidence whatsoever that Quilliam has filed its accounts, despite the threatening letter, although as Unity points out in the comments, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/609e547eca3d4354476be72feab2f80d/compdetails"&gt;according to the Companies House website they filed them on the 10th of this month&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, 6 days after Craig's post.  Craig's post was then at the time correct; only now that it is not have they complained about it, and rather than asking for it be clarified, they've sent the lawyers in with ominous demands for recompense.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;As Craig suggests, for an organisation ostensibly set-up to defend Western values, the attempt to stifle criticism only after the foundation has actually responded to that criticism is rather at odds with their commitment to free speech.  Still, the uses of public money, eh?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-1274513167794492336?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/1274513167794492336/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=1274513167794492336&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/1274513167794492336'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/1274513167794492336'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/craig-murray-legally-threatened-by.html' title='Craig Murray legally threatened by Quilliam Foundation.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-583836326077972805</id><published>2009-11-11T21:31:00.003Z</published><updated>2009-11-11T22:44:58.157Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='civil liberties'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jacqui Smith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='DNA database'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='crime policies'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Labour'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Home Office'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='European Court of Human Rights'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>The DNA database fudge.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;One of the motifs of the past few months has been that politicians of all colours "just don't get it".  Ironically, when it comes to the continuing debacle over the DNA database, you rather imagine that they did get it and now they're utterly bewildered at how things have turned out.  Here, after all, is what ought to be a standard tabloid outrage scandal: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/dec/05/dna-database-civilliberties"&gt;because of the "unaccountable" European Court of Human Rights&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, the government is having to change its policy on keeping all the DNA profiles of those arrested but not charged indefinitely, potentially raising the spectre of the guilty getting away with their crimes.  The Sun, that flag-bearer of social authoritarianism, did originally raise its voice, but has since barely made a peep about the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.bailii.org/eu/cases/ECHR/2008/1581.html"&gt;S and Marper case&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; and its implications.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;For a government that has so often treated with contempt the concerns of civil libertarians, with the full connivance of the vast majority of the tabloid press, the Daily Mail only recently deciding that it's time to join the other side, it must be wondering where all those who believe if they've got nothing to hide they've got nothing to fear have disappeared to.  As it happens, the majority are still probably on the side of mass DNA retention, just as they were on the side of extending the detention limit for terrorist suspects, even if the numbers fell away once the full implications of 42 or 90 days were properly explained.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;It is therefore encouraging, that just this once, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/news-and-events/1-press-releases/2009/11-11-09-liberty-response-to-new-dna-database-proposals.shtml"&gt;it's the other side making all the noise&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  On the one hand, you do have to recognise that if the government were to implement the the S and Marper ruling to the letter and destroy the DNA profiles of those not charged and found not guilty, on the very first occasion that someone then went onto commit a far graver offence and as a result was not brought to justice immediately, you can bet that those who are currently quiet would be screaming blue murder.  A more confident, and indeed, more liberal government, would however make the argument that we cannot create a completely secure society without making the kind of sacrifices that would reduce the amount of freedom which each and every one of us currently enjoys.  As it is however, we instead have a government that is terrified both of the power of the press in one of its "fits of morality" and which knows that such woolly-thinking is hardly a vote-winner.  Even so, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/11/dna-six-years-home-office"&gt;keeping an innocent person's profile for 6 years&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; is completely unjustifiable, and quite clearly breaches the S and Marper ruling.  The main hope from ministers has to be that by the time any challenge to it winds its way through the courts again, they'll ever not be in the same job, or they won't even be in government.  The Conservatives are promising to emulate the more enlightened Scottish system, but again, whether it will be one of their first priorities is unclear.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;The overall result though is classically New Labour.  They would like to go further, without being able to, while also privately doubtless wishing they could do the exact opposite.  Such are the constrains by which we have been governed, and likely will continue to be under Cameron's "new" Tories.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-583836326077972805?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/583836326077972805/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=583836326077972805&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/583836326077972805'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/583836326077972805'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/dna-database-fudge.html' title='The DNA database fudge.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-7752408609147890200</id><published>2009-11-11T21:29:00.001Z</published><updated>2009-11-11T21:30:56.392Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gordon Brown'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fall of Gordon Brown'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='abuses by tabloids'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scum-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jacqui James'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Afghanistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sun-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>Scum-watch: Well meaning, not bloody shameful.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;For those who were perhaps expecting the Sun to allude to the heavy criticism their stories involving Jacqui Janes have received, not just in other quarters but on their own comment facilities, I'm afraid you'll be disappointed with today's follow-up.  The closest their report comes to acknowledging that maybe Gordon Brown's letter wasn't more evidence of his "underlying disregard for the military" is in this sentence:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2724067/Army-mum-accepts-Gordon-Browns-apology.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Mr Brown's apology ended 48 hours of uproar since The Sun first revealed the  mistakes in his well-meaning but badly handwritten note.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; Funny, the paper didn't think it was well-meaning yesterday or on Monday.  Then it was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://the-sun-lies.blogspot.com/2009/11/its-called-scum-for-reason.html"&gt;"bloody shameful".&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; Mrs Janes incidentally has been persuaded, doubtless by the Sun itself, to make clear that her intentions were the very best:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;p style="font-family: georgia;" class="article"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;   &lt;p class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Jacqui also set the record straight on her contact with The Sun and her  recording of the PM's phone call, in which she berated him over troop and  helicopter shortages.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; Mum-of-six Jacqui, 47, said: "I released the tape because I wanted people to  know what he really said to me, not what Downing Street put out.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; "I also want to make clear that I didn't take a penny in payment for  interviews with The Sun."   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; Jacqui said she contacted The Sun because the paper backs Britain's Forces,  adding: "It had nothing to do with politics."   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; Except the paper turned it into politics, whether Janes wanted them to or not.  On any grounds, that's exploitation of a grieving person.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; As for an editorial comment, the only thing which it offers today is a typically lachrymose, jingoistic and unfeeling demand that everyone remembers.  Gordon Brown will presumably unfairly cop it again once this whole incident slips down the memory hole.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-7752408609147890200?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/7752408609147890200/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=7752408609147890200&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/7752408609147890200'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/7752408609147890200'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/scum-watch-well-meaning-not-bloody.html' title='Scum-watch: Well meaning, not bloody shameful.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-7228581241896191525</id><published>2009-11-10T23:01:00.002Z</published><updated>2009-11-11T18:22:53.783Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gordon Brown'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fall of Gordon Brown'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='abuses by tabloids'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scum-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jacqui James'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Afghanistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sun-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>Scum-watch: How to lose friends and alienate people.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://the-sun-lies.blogspot.com/2009/11/its-called-scum-for-reason.html"&gt;How do you then follow up one of the most petty, vindictive and downright counter-productive attacks on a politician in recent times?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;  The obvious answer, it seems, is to be both even more cynical and underhand than you've already been: wait for the politician, alerted to your news story, to phone the slighted mother to apologise and then get her to record it &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2722106/Mum-at-war-Jacqui-Janes-the-full-transcript.html"&gt;so you can reproduce the thing in full on your website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; To be fair when the Sun clearly doesn't deserve it, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2722174/Jacqui-Janes-Mr-Brown-listen-to-me-My-son-could-have-survived-but-he-bled-to-death.html"&gt;Mrs Janes' claim that she recorded it on the spur of the moment with a friend's BlackBerry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; could be true.  In any case, whether they were personally involved in the recording of the conversation between Gordon Brown and Mrs Janes or not, they must have realised that this was taking the story to a whole other level.  It's one thing after all to complain about what you consider to be an insensitive and insulting letter, or indeed to &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/newsnight/1722479.stm"&gt;do the equivalent of a Sharron Storer&lt;/a&gt;, confronting a politician on the spur of the moment in front of watching television cameras; it's quite another to effectively ambush someone who is quite clearly mortified at the damage he thinks he has done and then to use it against him as part of a campaign.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; The transcript of the conversation between Brown and Janes does not make for easy reading.  Janes is convinced that her son's life could have been saved if there were more helicopters available, a view she is fully entitled to, but not one that she can actually prove, or be proved without a full coroner's report, which will probably take years considering the current backlog (indeed, we now know that a helicopter was sent after the explosion which ultimately killed Janes).  Brown goes out of his way to not argue with her without agreeing with her, and as before, is clearly desperately wishing he wasn't having the conversation.  This isn't because he can't face up to the consequences of what he is asking the army to do for him, which clearly affects him hugely, but almost certainly because he knows there is almost nothing he can say that will placate a grieving mother, nor can he think of it while actually in conversation with her.  Time, while a healer, also allows for far greater consideration and with it, eloquence, which the prime minister displayed at today's press conference.  If he had said during the phone call &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8352041.stm"&gt;what he did today to the media&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, it might just have satisfied Mrs Janes that little bit more.  As it was, Brown was right to disagree when she claimed there were 25 spelling mistakes (there were 4 or 5 at most) and that he had spelt both her name and her son's name wrong (unclear on the family name, while he did get his name right, if scruffily).  Probably the most instructive lines of all though come towards the end:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:georgia;" &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;    &lt;blockquote  style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;GB: Whatever  information you've been given, that is not correct. But I don't want to  interact in a political debate about this...    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;JJ: No that's fine. Nor do I.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; Whether Mrs Janes did or not at the time, or still does, as a result of handing the Sun the conversation this has become a political debate.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://heresycorner.blogspot.com/2009/11/one-mothers-son.html"&gt;As the Heresiarch correctly points ou&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;t, this isn't about the letter.  This is about the fact she has lost her son, with the letter simply being used as a vehicle for her anguish.  It just so happens that her belief that the military are being underfunded and betrayed by the politicians is exactly the same one which the Sun holds, or at least pretends to hold.  Grief is the motivator, and while money might well have changed hands between the paper and the Mrs Janes, the real issue here is both the exploitation of Mrs Janes for political and personal gain and the low and dirty methods used.  Did the prime minister after all imagine that what he must have thought was a confidential and private phone call would be recorded and reproduced in a newspaper, to be used, as yesterday's Sun editorial put it, as evidence of his "underlying disregard for the military"?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; If that was the Sun's intention, then it seems to have backfired spectacularly.  Yesterday the consensus, across the political spectrum, seemed to be that this was an unpleasant non-story, with some feeling sympathy for Brown.  Today that appears to have turned to overwhelming distaste at the reproduction of the conversation, and with even more defending the prime minister even while disliking the man and his policies.  Most dangerously for the Sun itself,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2722174/Jacqui-Janes-Mr-Brown-listen-to-me-My-son-could-have-survived-but-he-bled-to-death.html?allComments=true"&gt; its own readers at least on the website also seem to be in the majority taking Brown's side&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, with some even taking pot shots at Mrs Janes herself.  This is especially intriguing, as this is hardly the first time &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/labels/Helen%20Newlove.html"&gt;the Sun has used grieving parents to demand political change&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, without them being attacked in the fashion to which Mrs Janes has been by some.  Partially this is because of the view of some that those who choose to join the army know the risks of the "job", but it's also because while Sun readers often favour the draconian policies on crime which the paper espouses, they are far more sceptical on Afghanistan, despite the paper's complete support for the war.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; Furthermore, the paper's own journalists seem unsure of the attack on Brown which they've launched.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/nov/10/sun-political-editor-brown-letter"&gt;The Graun claims that Tom Newton Dunn, the new political editor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, having previously been the paper's defence correspondent, wanted the story to put more emphasis on Brown's eyesight with its impact on his handwriting, despite him supposedly being the man who wrote the original report.  Even more significant is that Murdoch himself, while obviously supporting the change of support from Labour to the Conservatives, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/nov/10/rupert-murdoch-gordon-brown"&gt;apparently "regrets" it&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.  If he objects to the highly personal turn the criticism has taken, new editor Dominic Mohan will swiftly know about it.  It's also curious that despite the high profile the story has taken, that there was no editorial comment today on the interview.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; The biggest indictment of the Sun's story though is not just that it has undermined the claim that Brown has "underlying disregard" for the military, that it has so misread the mood of its own readers that they have came out in sympathy with him, but that it has actually deflected the debate away from government strategy on Afghanistan onto the personal and, ultimately, the newspaper itself.  This is, as Labour themselves have argued, been a campaign to damage the prime minister, and an unfair one at that.  David Cameron might well be concerned with just what kind of partner he has jumped into bed with.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-7228581241896191525?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/7228581241896191525/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=7228581241896191525&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/7228581241896191525'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/7228581241896191525'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/scum-watch-how-to-lose-friends-and.html' title='Scum-watch: How to lose friends and alienate people.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-7695456353211382812</id><published>2009-11-09T23:06:00.003Z</published><updated>2009-11-10T21:31:04.755Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gordon Brown'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fall of Gordon Brown'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='abuses by tabloids'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scum-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Afghanistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sun-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>It's called the Scum for a reason.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;On Saturday, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/weekend-links.html"&gt;the Sun ran a leader attacking Gordon Brown for having the temerity to answer a question about The X Factor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; given to him during an interview on a Manchester radio station.  According to a newspaper &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00923/Front_page__Saturda_923977a.jpg"&gt;which that day led on, err, The X Factor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, he should be dedicating his "every waking moment" to the fate of our forces out in Afghanistan.  He ought to be, according to the leader writer, be "leading the way".  This is without mentioning the completely fatuous argument the paper made by comparing the number of hits on Google when searching for "Gordon Brown and Afghanistan" and "Gordon Brown and Michael Jackson".  Not that it'll be doing so again, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/nov/09/murdoch-google"&gt;considering Mr Murdoch is pondering "banning" Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; Two days later, and the paper attacks Gordon Brown for err, dedicating his "every waking moment" to the fate of our forces out in Afghanistan.  Not only did Brown "fail to bow" at the Cenotaph, quite clearly a concious snub to Our Boys, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2720283/Prime-Minister-Gordon-Brown-couldnt-even-get-our-name-right.html"&gt;but he also sent a "bloody shameful" letter to Jacqui Janes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, mother of Jamie Janes, killed on October the 5th in Afghanistan.  Brown's crime was to write it in his almost illegible handwriting, as well as possibly mistaking their surname for James instead of Janes (it isn't clear whether Brown has written James instead of Janes; his n and m look very similar) and to make a number of spelling mistakes.  According to Mrs Janes, who has naturally given the Sun an exclusive video interview, she was so angered by the letter she threw it across the room and burst into tears:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;p style="font-family: georgia;" class="article"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;blockquote  style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;   &lt;p class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;"I re-read it later. He said, 'I know words can offer little comfort'. When  the words are written in such a hurry the letter is littered with more than  20 mistakes, they offer NO comfort.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; "It was an insult to Jamie and all the good men and women who have died out  there. How low a priority was my son that he could send me that disgraceful,  hastily-scrawled insult of a letter?    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; "He finished by asking if there was any way he could help.    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; "One thing he can do is never, ever, send a letter out like that to another  dead soldier's family. Type it or get someone to check it. And get the name  right."   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; Of course, once she had finished chucking it across the room, she got on the phone to the Sun.  In fact, there's nothing to suggest that the letter was hastily-scrawled: Brown's handwriting is simply that bad.  As someone whose handwriting is also close to being illegible unless I write out every letter individually, which makes you look even more like a child, and who also has a surname which is very easily misspelled, which while annoying is hardly the end of the world, it's difficult not to have some sympathy for Brown.  Clearly he wants the letter to have the personal touch, something that a word processed expression of condolences wouldn't have, and just what do you say to the parent of someone who's just lost their son in a war you sent him to fight without slipping into the obvious, the clichéd and the torturous?  Yes, he should have perhaps been more careful with the spelling and especially with the names, but has it really come to the point where we think that personal letters written with the very best of intentions are acceptable material to attack the prime minister with?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; The Sun it seems, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://the-sun-lies.blogspot.com/2009/09/dont-know-what-youve-got-till-its-gone.html"&gt;having up until very recently having supported the prime minister&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, even if it didn't blow smoke up his backside like it did his predecessor, has decided to attack Brown over the very trivial things it was alarmed he was involving himself in.  Not being able to disagree with him over policy on Afghanistan, on which he only fails to be as gung-ho as they are, they've decided that such perceived slights are &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/sun_says/article244723.ece"&gt;"more evidence of Mr Brown's underlying disregard for  the military"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.  After all, nothing quite says you disregard the military like not acting like a hunchback in front of the Cenotaph, or err, writing a personal letter to the bereaved.  This also ties in with, according to the Sun, his "half-hearted attitude to the war in Afghanistan".  This half-hearted attitude involves his increasing the number of troops by 500, and yet another speech last Friday on just why we're in the country.  His speech did have a contradiction at its heart, but the reason for this is that Brown is trying to please everyone: he has no intention of getting us out, but knows as public opinion turns against the war and against the corrupt Karzai government, he has to put down some "conditions" for their continued presence, even if they're false ones.  If Brown is being half-hearted, then so too is President Obama, still undecided on whether to increase the US troop numbers by 40,000, as requested by the army.  Seeing as we rely on the Americans, we're waiting on them as much as everyone else is.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; Even by the Sun's complete lack of any standards, this must rank as one of the lowest attacks to be launched on a politician in recent times.  Not only is it without any foundation whatsoever, but the newspaper seems to think it's perfectly acceptable to use an individual, in this instance a grieving mother, to attack someone for their own ends, someone whom as pointed out above up until a month ago they were giving their nominal support to.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://mreugenides.blogspot.com/2009/11/in-defence-of-gordon-brown.html"&gt;As Mr Eugenides also suggests&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, it says more about that person that her first instinct on getting the letter was to phone the Sun to complain about the handwriting than it does about the person who took the time to write it.  Clearly, we've now gone beyond the point where Brown will be attacked by the Sun on the virtue of his actual policies, it's now &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jun/13/pressandpublishing.media"&gt;"bucket of shit"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; time, where anything and everything that he does which they decide is wrong will be pointed out and complained about.  Going by the Sun's past record when it comes to smearing Labour politicians, the election campaign coming up could be quite something.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-7695456353211382812?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/7695456353211382812/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=7695456353211382812&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/7695456353211382812'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/7695456353211382812'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/its-called-scum-for-reason.html' title='It&apos;s called the Scum for a reason.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-6801629572440059902</id><published>2009-11-07T21:54:00.003Z</published><updated>2009-11-07T22:57:14.065Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='weekend round-up'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='weekend links'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='weekend'/><title type='text'>Weekend links.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;No real theme this weekend.  Condolences though to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://leninology.blogspot.com/2009/11/chris-harman-rip.html"&gt;the family of Chris Harman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, who died suddenly last night.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://sadiestavern.blogspot.com/2009/11/last-orders-at-bar-please.html"&gt;Also worth mourning the demise of Sadie's Tavern&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; (formerly the British Bullshit Foundation), all the more so for the reasoning which I sadly agree with.  Anyway, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://paullinford.blogspot.com/2009/11/kelly-has-gone-too-far.html"&gt;Paul Linford thinks Christopher Kelly's review of parliamentary expenses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; has gone too far, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://bleedingheartshow.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/beating-around-the-bush/"&gt;Neil Robertson defends Obama against the New Statesman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://viva-freemania.blogspot.com/2009/11/times-and-autistic-insults.html"&gt;Tom Freeman notes the Times' sudden discovery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; that using the word autism in a disparaging way can be considered offensive, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://heresycorner.blogspot.com/2009/11/brown-and-out-in-afghanistan.html"&gt;the Heresiarch sees the contradiction in Gordon Brown's case for staying in Afghanistan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://bensix.wordpress.com/2009/11/07/a-war-criminal-in-london/"&gt;while BenSix has discovered&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; that Liam Fox is next week inviting that well-known humanitarian Henry Kissinger to this country to give him the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.theatlanticbridge.com/gallery.php?newsitem=46"&gt;"Margaret Thatcher Medal of Freedom"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.  That'll be our next overlords welcoming with open arms a war criminal.  The more things change, the more they stay the same.  Finally, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://mymarilyn.blogspot.com/2009/11/hes-not-wearing-poppy.html"&gt;Claude lambasts the inexorable rise of poppy fascism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;In the papers, or at least their sites, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/matthew_parris/article6906864.ece"&gt;Matthew Parris&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/paul-flynn-mp-yes-we-should-pull-out-nothing-will-ever-change-1816558.html"&gt;Paul Flynn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; argue for the end of the Afghan war, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/john-hutton-mp-no-we-shouldnt-pull-out-the-strategy-is-absolutely-the-right-one-1816559.html"&gt;while John Hutton makes the case for the other side&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.  Janice Turner thinks we &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/janice_turner/article6906847.ece"&gt;should turn our ire on the things that matter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/howard-jacobson/howard-jacobson-call-it-snobbery-if-you-like-but-someone-has-to-rage-against-the-dying-of-the-light-1816590.html"&gt;Howard Jacobson fights the good fight against trash culture&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/andrew-grice/andrew-grice-cameron-is-raising-great-expectations-that-may-lead-to-a-very-bleak-house-1816562.html"&gt;Andrew Grice notes David Cameron abandoning his European promises&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/06/await-joy-simon-singing-canary"&gt;Marina Hyde anticipates the Simon Mann saga&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/07/noam-chomsky-us-foreign-policy"&gt;Seumas Milne meets Noam Chomksy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; while article of the weekend is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/07/remembrance-day-poppies-cenotaph"&gt;the Graun's own attack on the rise of poppy fascism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.  About fucking time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;As for worst tabloid article of the weekend, we have the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-1225857/God-save-sex-lessons.html"&gt;usual contender from Amanda Platell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/11/platell-still-hypocrit-and-just.html"&gt;once again dealt with by Tabloid Watch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-1225902/You-doomed-Mr-Brown-stop-dragging-too.html"&gt;an abortion from the usually decent Peter Oborne&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; on how Gordon Brown is running "a scorched earth campaign", but the winner is this utter pile of cock masquerading as a Sun leader comment:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/sun_says/article244723.ece"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;WHEN the Prime Minister told a radio audience: "I don't think they're very good", we could be forgiven for thinking he was talking about his Cabinet.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;But no. He was trying to show how with-it he is by passing a verdict on the X Factor twins John and Edward.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;You might reckon he would have better things to talk about with his young listeners in Manchester. Like the war in Afghanistan. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;Because he obviously didn't talk about that.  He didn't have to work with the questions he was given.  The Sun attacking a politician for having his mind on trivia is pretty much about as hypocritical as you can get.  That would be bad enough if the paper then didn't use this as an argument:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: georgia;" class="article"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;&lt;p class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;Yet Google "Gordon Brown and Michael Jackson" and you get 11,400,000 results.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" class="article"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; Google "Gordon Brown and Afghanistan" and you get less than a third of that -  3,100,000.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;This couldn't possibly be because the internet is more interested in Michael Jackson and the doubtless millions of news stories about him than good old Gordie and Afghanistan, could it?  No, it must be Gordon Brown's fault.  Jesus wept.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;It is the fate of our heroes fighting a cruel and bitter war in that faraway land that should be occupying his every waking moment right now.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;Especially as we prepare to honour our forces in tomorrow's Remembrance Sunday ceremonies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;In a year when the death toll of our soldiers will be the highest since the Falklands War we will wear our poppies with extra pride.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;As Prime Minister, Gordon Brown should be leading the way.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;Quite right. Tomorrow he should be at the cenotaph in sackcloth and ashes, with the biggest, reddest poppy anyone has ever seen.  That'll make all the difference.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-6801629572440059902?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/6801629572440059902/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=6801629572440059902&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/6801629572440059902'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/6801629572440059902'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/weekend-links.html' title='Weekend links.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-8186600572981998354</id><published>2009-11-06T20:53:00.004Z</published><updated>2009-11-06T21:05:13.526Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='junk science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dowsing rods'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Iraq'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ATSC Exports LTD'/><title type='text'>Junk science kills.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Of all the corruption scandals to come out of Iraq, almost certainly the most despicable is the news that the Iraqi security forces have paid up to $60,000 a piece for "explosive detectors" which are in fact nothing more than dowsing rods.  Supplied by ATSC Exports Ltd and also sold to the police in Thailand, the results have been predictable:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;center style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vvJUSLn-WKY&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vvJUSLn-WKY&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2009/11/05/british-company-sells-60000-dowsing-rods-to-iraq-as-explosives-detectors/"&gt;Unity has the story in full.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-8186600572981998354?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/8186600572981998354/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=8186600572981998354&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/8186600572981998354'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/8186600572981998354'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/junk-science-kills.html' title='Junk science kills.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-5966946012003100344</id><published>2009-11-05T20:50:00.005Z</published><updated>2009-11-05T22:36:16.612Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jihadists'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='terror'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kim Howells'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='musical terrorism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='madness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='foreign policy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Afghanistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='insurgency'/><title type='text'>The unreality of Afghanistan.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;There's a distinct air of unreality which must around hang around newspaper offices and also the realms of Whitehall.  The reaction to the killing of 5 British soldiers by an Afghan police officer, who depending on who you believe, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/04/afghanistan-attack-british-soldiers-killed"&gt;either had a grudge against an officer called Manam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, who was also injured and may well have been the original target, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/05/afghanistan-gunman-uk-soldiers-taliban"&gt;or a long-term Taliban agent waiting for his opportunity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, was one of a still aloof nation that regards it as unbelievable that it can be so apparently easy to kill Our Boys, while also perplexed at how "Terry Taliban" isn't prepared to play by good old fashioned Queensbury rules.  It wasn't so long ago that IEDs were being described as "new" and "asymmetrical" tactics, as if guerilla warfare was some new concept, and that it was perfectly beastly that the other side weren't allowing themselves to be shot out in the open like the clearly inferior fighters that they are.  How dare they make the greatest, best trained army the world has ever seen look bad?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;The imperial hangover which this country suffers from is reasonable enough, but it still makes you wonder what planet some people are living on when the Mail incredulously asks on its front page&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.mailwatch.co.uk/2009/11/05/mail-534/#comments"&gt; "[W]hat kind of war is this?"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;  A fairly standard war, really, considering you're battling against non-state backed fighters.  Anyone would think that infiltrating organisations, spying on others and even occasionally carrying out the type of operation as took place on Tuesday was a unique and untested innovation.  We seem to forget that our enemy probably feels much the same when a unmanned, unsighted drone suddenly unleashes a Hellfire missile and turns what was the centre of a village into a scene of utter carnage.  We like to imagine that we're the ones with the moral authority, that we're not the ones that use children as either suicide bombers or distractions, even while we without a second thought call in airstrikes that are not exactly discriminate in those that they kill and maim.  In terms of similar attacks, this one wasn't even exactly highly sophisticated; it was an opportunity which was taken when it arrived.  Compared to say, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Iraqi_Parliament_Bombing"&gt;the suicide bomb attack inside the Iraqi parliament&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, or the attack carried out by Ansar al-Sunnah in which they got inside &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=351870&amp;amp;page=1"&gt;an American military base in Mosul, killing 14 soldiers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, it's not even in the same league.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;The problem the attack poses though is obvious: when our policy is to train the Afghan army and police and then get out, or at least that's what it's meant to be, that this officer was apparently not a new recruit and had been in the police for three years raises the nightmare that there may be many more "cells" where we have in fact trained those will then turn on us when the chance arises.  This isn't exactly new either though: the Iraqi police and army were and probably still are riddled with those with their own distinct agendas, and that was in a country where there are only two major sects in conflict with each other.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/12/afghanistan-taliban-pakistan-al-qaida"&gt;In Afghanistan there are at least five different ethnic groups, speaking at least six languages&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, and where tribal rivalry and personal fiefdoms are far, far older than the modern state itself.  Like in Iraq, where a job in the police or the reconstituted army were around the only ones going, that there is a such a low threshold for potential recruits to pass to become officers creates problems in itself.  The Afghan army and police are notorious for their unreliability, and I don't think there's been a film yet shot of either Americans or British troops working with them where spliffs haven't been passed around at some point by their companions.  The Taliban of course, despite their supposed purity, are probably much the same, especially those who are being paid rather than the true believers, but that doesn't make the situation any better.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Again, none of this would much matter if we had anything approaching another plan to put into place should everything go wrong as it seemingly is, but we don't.  The closest thing either us or the Americans have to an advanced military strategy is to flood ever higher numbers of troops into the country.  This has been vastly encouraged by the supposed success of the "surge" in Iraq, but that coincided with two much more important occurrences: firstly the setting up of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awakening_movement"&gt;Awakening councils&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, when the insurgent groups outside of the hardline Salafists of the Islamic State of Iraq and Ansar al-Islam turned on their former allies, and secondly the ceasefires declared by the Mahdi army, which vastly decreased the attacks by the Shia around Baghdad, as well as the sectarian killings.  Despite attempts to encourage something similar to the former in Afghanistan, there's little sign of it happening.  The increase in troops is also meant to go hand in hand with the strategy of "taking and holding", having previously only taken land held by the Taliban to then withdraw and let them take it again.  This is all well and good, but it still leaves us at some point having to give that which we've taken back, with no guarantee whatsoever that the Taliban won't then come straight back.  Training up the Afghan army and police is meant to stop just that, but there's still no real belief that they'll be able to hold their own when the time comes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;With there being no apparent alternative, you have to wonder if &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/03/labour-afghanistan-kim-howells"&gt;Kim Howells' intervention yesterday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; was meant to further cement the current policy as the only one in town.  Only someone in the chair of the completely toothless &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/labels/Intelligence%20and%20Security%20Committee.html"&gt;Intelligence and Security Committee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; could think that the best way to spend the money saved by getting out of Afghanistan is to raise up the drawbridge here and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/03/afghanistan-terror-taliban-al-qaida"&gt;in Howells' words introduce "more intrusive surveillance in certain communities"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, which has to be one of the most cowardly ways of calling for more spying on Muslims imaginable.  Howells seems to be basing this on the false premise that getting out of Afghanistan would make the security situation here deteriorate, when if anything the opposite would be the case, as well as helping to ameloriate the attitudes which some within this country hold.  Just to further flesh out his attitude that this whole mess isn't our fault but rather the Afghans' own, just like some blamed the Iraqis for not embracing the democracy we so kindly imposed down the barrel of a gun, he continues: "I assumed, wrongly, that a desire among ordinary Afghans for peace would prevail over the prospect of continued war and the spectre of being ruled by a tyrannical theocracy in one of the world's poorest and most backward countries." He seems to think that what they're currently experiencing is somehow better.  Indeed, some would doubtless suggest, despite the Taliban's brutality, that at least during their short rule there was something approaching security, hardly the case now and hardly the case during the previous years.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;We shouldn't pretend that getting out of Afghanistan immediately would either be easy or not have major, long lasting effects on our relationships both with the United States and NATO.  It would however be better to consider it as a genuine option and to plan for it than to continue with the lunacy of our current position, knowing that it is untenable as a going concern.  Our politicians however, with the exception of the Liberal Democrats, who finally seem to be coming round to the fact that this war is just as unwinnable and disastrous on all fronts as our adventure in Iraq was, seem to be far more prepared to continue lying to the public about al-Qaida and safe havens than admit that this simply cannot go on.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-5966946012003100344?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/5966946012003100344/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=5966946012003100344&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5966946012003100344'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5966946012003100344'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/unreality-of-afghanistan.html' title='The unreality of Afghanistan.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-6821505475101544420</id><published>2009-11-04T21:27:00.006Z</published><updated>2009-11-04T22:20:23.002Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jihadists'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ed Husain'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='verbal pogrom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Melanie Phillips'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Israel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islamists'/><title type='text'>Verbal pogroms, or the continuing jihad of Melanie Phillips part two.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/continuing-jihad-of-melanie-phillips.html"&gt;Yesterday I hypothesised that Melanie Phillips has become so entrenched&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; in her "Israel First" ideology that she could no longer separate her own persona from that nation as a whole (which was cross-posted &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/11/04/the-continuing-jihad-of-melanie-phillips"&gt;over on Lib Con&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;).  Attacking her views was, as she wrote, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5498441/twominute-hate-at-the-guardian.thtml"&gt;a "verbal pogrom"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, the equivalent of actually perpetuating violence against her.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://flyingrodent.blogspot.com/2009/11/no-point-crying-over-genocided-milk.html"&gt;Thanks then to Flying Rodent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, who brings my attention to this piece from yesterday, making clear I couldn't have been more wrong.  Writing this time on the timidity of Britain's leading Jews, who are standing by while "Israel [is thrown] even more brazenly under the bus", Mel uses the exact same term for the second time in as many days:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5501326/britains-timid-jews.thtml"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;However, I fear that his hope that British Jews get rid of these leaders and replace them by individuals who are prepared to mount a proper defence of Israel in the face of this verbal pogrom is tragically unrealisable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Attacking Phillips herself then is a verbal pogrom, and being critical of Israel is also a verbal pogrom.  I really wish I was making this up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-6821505475101544420?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/6821505475101544420/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=6821505475101544420&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/6821505475101544420'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/6821505475101544420'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/verbal-pogroms-or-continuing-jihad-of.html' title='Verbal pogroms, or the continuing jihad of Melanie Phillips part two.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-910833658553852424</id><published>2009-11-03T22:29:00.005Z</published><updated>2009-11-04T21:27:19.482Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jihadists'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ed Husain'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Melanie Phillips'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Israel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islamists'/><title type='text'>The continuing jihad of Melanie Phillips.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;At the weekend &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/oct/31/melanie-phillips-islamism-spectator"&gt;Ed Husain wrote an eminently reasonable, measured and very restrained in the circumstances attack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; on the more out there views of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/labels/Melanie%20Phillips.html"&gt;Melanie Phillips&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.  Husain clearly feels that Phillips is a potential ally in the battle against radical Islam, although quite why judging by her record it's difficult to tell.  His main concern now seems to be that rather than being an ally, she's becoming a prominent obstacle to any kind of progress, especially in the way she seems determined to see conspiracies where there are none, in this instance with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5487921/a-less-than-united-front.thtml"&gt;Inayat Bunglawala and his determined opposition to the remnants of al-Muhajiroun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.  Again, this isn't anything new with Phillips: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2007/04/just-how-much-madder-can-mad-mel-get.html"&gt;a few years back she was convinced that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction had been buried beneath the Euphrates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; and that Saddam's crack team of WMD experts had upped sticks and moved to Syria.  Nonetheless, it was also going to be interesting to see how Phillips responded.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;According to Phillips, the reason why Husain "feels so viciously" towards her is because of her support for Israel, on which Husain is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5492961/ed-husain-and-me.thtml"&gt;"unbalanced and obsessional"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.  This is a quite extraordinary example of projection, even for Phillips.  Husain's views on Israel could hardly be much more orthodox with the average view in this country: he felt that the attack on Gaza in December and January was "disproportionate".  In a press release for the Quilliam Foundation, he called for:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:georgia;" &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/index.php/component/content/article/374"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;"The UK Government cannot seek to win hearts and minds across Muslim communities while failing to stop Israel from murdering Palestinians en masse. Gordon Brown and David Miliband have reached out to Damascus and Darfur in recent weeks in an attempt to bring peace and stand for fairness. That is commendable. And in that spirit, where is the outright condemnation of Israeli atrocities and pressure on Israel to stop its inhumane operations? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Perceived double standards from our Government and the current green light (from Washington and London) to Israel's killing machine will strengthen Al Qaeda's metanarrative and radicalize yet another generation of young Muslims. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Isolating and angering millions of Muslims by sitting on the fence will not aid the PREVENT agenda, or the moderate majority of Muslims. The FCO and Downing Street has a duty to stand, condemn, and call for immediate cessation of Israel's military operations, and end the siege".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;Undoubtedly those who are as vociferous in their support for Israel as Phillips will disagree with much of that, yet to second guess someone who has dedicated himself to countering radicalisation, having himself been a major player at one time in the likes of Hizb-ut-Tahrir, doesn't seem to be the best way to deal with jihadist propaganda.  The problem is, as Husain himself notes, that Phillips espouses an "Israel First" mindset, where Israel can do absolutely no wrong, regardless of who leads it or regardless of what it does.  If Israel tomorrow decided to nuke Iran without any warning, Phillips would almost certainly defend it on the basis that the country had long been planning a "second genocide", another of her own obsessions, and not even pretend to cry crocodile tears for the innocent among the Iranians who hadn't been involved in such plotting.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;Whether it's down to a neurosis or otherwise, what's becoming ever more apparent is that Phillips is now associating Israel and the history of the Jewish people with her own persona.  If you attack her, you now seem to be attacking Israel itself.  In fact, you might even, without having any way of knowing it, be advocating the very destruction of Melanie Phillips.  In her latest post, headlined &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/5498441/twominute-hate-at-the-guardian.thtml"&gt;"Two-Minute Hate at the Guardian"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Goldstein"&gt;Goldstein, after all, was almost certainly modelled on Trotsky, who was Jewish&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, which is unlikely to be a coincidence) she even calls the attacks on her a "verbal pogrom", which, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://rhetoricallyspeaking.blogspot.com/2009/11/victimhood.html"&gt;as Rhetorically Speaking points ou&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;t, seems to suggest that she regards criticism of her a form of violence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;Even more hilarious, or worrying, depending on your view, was part of her initial response to Husain.  Husain alleged that in Phillips' world view, if you don't support Israel in the same way which she does, then you're with the Islamists who want to see it destroyed.  Phillips says this is absurd.  Then, err, she says this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote  style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;A number of anti-jihadis told me from the start that my support for Ed Husain was misplaced because he had never properly renounced Islamist extremism. To begin with, I defended him as a naif. Even when he came out with boilerplate bigotry against Israel, I put it down to the fact that he had been brought up in that kind of milieu. He was on a steep learning curve, I said. Everyone can change for the better.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;It was I who was naive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;Husain then still must be an Islamic extremist because um, he doesn't support Israel in the way which Phillips demands.  This is a rather spectacular way to prove Husain's point, and one which Phillips must be immensely proud of.  Not that she likely has any idea whatsoever of quite how she's just hoisted herself by her own petard.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-910833658553852424?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/910833658553852424/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=910833658553852424&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/910833658553852424'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/910833658553852424'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/continuing-jihad-of-melanie-phillips.html' title='The continuing jihad of Melanie Phillips.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-5499195248704034744</id><published>2009-11-02T18:04:00.003Z</published><updated>2009-11-03T00:09:33.396Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jihadists'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='terror'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='terrorism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='madness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='foreign policy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Afghanistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='insurgency'/><title type='text'>Afghanistan and neo-colonialism.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;While I was away I read &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mischief"&gt;Black Mischief by Evelyn Waugh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; - hardly the most politically correct of novels today, and it is indeed horrendously racist in places - a satire based around a fictional African country where an Oxford-educated native comes to power and attempts to impose his own idea of "progress" upon a country which is first indifferent then turns resistant when his megalomania extends to introducing a new currency, resulting in a coup launched by the disaffected English general who first brought him to power and the French ambassador.  While not an exact fit by any means, the parallels with Afghanistan are there, and beginning to become ever more evident.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;There certainly is in any event a satire to be written about the complete gibbering lunacy of our Afghanistan policy, a policy which has never been more exposed that with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/02/hamid-karzai-afghanistan-winner-election"&gt;the reappointment of Hamid Karzai as president&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; after Abdullah Abdullah pulled out of a second round of voting.  To get just a flavour of the insanity of our current policy, you have to know that despite this being the absolute nightmare scenario, it is at the same time the one which was most favoured given the circumstances.  For months the Americans and our own representatives have been pulling their hair out at the intransigence of Karzai - the corruption surrounding him, the patronage he gives to warlords, the obstinacy of the man who is meant to be president of his own country but who has essentially forgotten that he owes everything to us - while knowing full well that he was going to be re-elected not thanks to but along with massive vote fraud.  The hope was despite the ballot box stuffing, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8179845.stm"&gt;Karzai would turn out to have got above the 50% needed to avoid a second round&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, and while the biased in Karzai's favour Independent Election Commission tried its best, it still had to throw out enough votes to take Karzai below the threshold.   A second round of voting suited absolutely no one - Karzai was still going to win, especially as Abdullah and the UN's demands to stem the voting fraud by reducing the number of polling stations were thrown out, and yet more lives would be lost as the Taliban would have again stepped up its attacks for a day.  Attempts at getting Karzai and Abdullah to lead a coalition were half-hearted at best, and so we have the utterly half-hearted endorsement of a second Karzai electoral term.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;If the Bush adminstration was still in power, hardly anyone would be batting an eyelid.  After all, an administration which first came to power not on the popular vote but on the verdict of the supreme court, despite the neo-conservative fervour for the installing democracy elsewhere, wouldn't have had much opposition to a similar installation of another president.  Now though we have Obama and Clinton, who if anything have even less influence over Karzai and less idea about what the policy actually is than the last lot.  Those who have tried to do things differently have now been humiliated by the very man they secretly wanted rid of, and have been left not only looking stupid but have also undermined support back at home by doing so.  Lives were lost in keeping those polling stations which were either unused or where the boxes were stuffed open, and for what?  So that the same man could be put back in on the back of a vote now regarded as largely illegitimate?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Afghanistan has been described optimistically by some as "the good war".  In terms of lives lost, it almost certainly does so far pale into insignificance with the number killed in Iraq.  There is though surely now a case to be made for a full reassessment of just what has took place as a result of the initial overthrow of the Taliban.  Justified mainly now on the grounds of the threat which was posed by al-Qaida to the West, a threat which has at every single turn been vastly and outrageously exaggerated, we have through our bull in a china shop approach succeeded in forcing al-Qaida and the Taliban into an uneasy but fruitful alliance, have destabilised Pakistan to such an extent &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/02/pakistan-bombing-rawalpindi-taliban"&gt;that it now faces daily suicide attacks in its major cities&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, and attempted to impose a democracy on quite possibly the most socially conservative country in the entire region, with predictable results.  The more you look at it, the more ridiculous it becomes: Afghanistan was a safe haven, a base for al-Qaida, but it was one in which they were relatively constrained and mainly useful only for training; the actual planning and training for 9/11 itself &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_cell"&gt;took place in Germany&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; and America, not Afghanistan.  What we have done is involve ourselves in a civil war which has been going on for decades, and which will most likely continue for decades: it would have done had we not involved ourselves and it will do if we leave tomorrow.  The justification for staying is no longer any such high motives as protecting a democracy (it isn't one), keeping the Taliban out (they're already there) or protecting women's rights (always a fantasy to begin with and even more so since the passing of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Family_Law"&gt;law involving Shia Muslims&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;), but someone protecting ourselves from attack.  It doesn't matter that in the same breath ministers admit that the plots which are directed against us are overwhelmingly planned over in Pakistan (where they fled from us in the first place) and that they involve British citizens rather than foreigners, still they parrot the same lies which even they they must know to be completely false.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;The biggest success of the war in Afghanistan is that very few outside of the circle of rabid Trots or the likes of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/20/afghanistan-election-karzai-liberal-arrogance"&gt;Simon Jenkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; actually describe this war for what it really is: neo-colonialism orchestrated by those who are supposed to be horrified and opposed to such control over other nations.  This is colonialism where the rulers back in London and Washington can't actually influence anything, and where they can't admit that outside of the colonial capital and indeed increasingly within it, they have absolutely no control whatsoever.  This is colonialism where the armies, under the auspices of NATO, are left to provide security to a nation which has never been secured in its existence.  Their real role is to act as target practice for when the Taliban feel like launching an ambush and as moving, armoured targets for the increasingly sophisticated IED manufacturers.  The entire war is based on the false premise that you can stop an idea from flourishing by dropping over a hundred thousand troops in the place where it briefly had a safe haven.  Ideas cannot be beaten militarily; they have to been fought intellectually, and in this case by those inside Islam, not outside it.  Our approach has resulted in extremist, takfirist, Salafist Islam being far more disseminated than it would have been otherwise, gaining footholds in Somalia, Yemen, Iraq and western Pakistan where it may have existed before but without gaining momentum and allegiance.  All of these places are and now could be as dangerous as Afghanistan was between roughly 1998 and 2001, but the ideology also doesn't need a safe haven in any event: all it needs is those dedicated enough and knowledgeable enough.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;The argument against getting out of Afghanistan now would be that we would abandoning the country to the Taliban when they Afghan people themselves still overwhelmingly reject their return to power.  Others would argue that such a move could be just the catalyst needed for those in pursuit of a global caliphate as their ultimate goal to establish the country as the first outpost, the attempt to make it Iraq having failed.  The reality however is that the Taliban themselves never successfully conquered Afghanistan, just as no outsiders ever have.  They would not immediately overrun the Karzai government, nor would we let them.  The best alternative is to draw back now from frontline duties and to concentrate on building up the Afghan army and police as a matter of the utmost imperative.  Just as we gave up our old colonies, we have to give up our new ones as well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-5499195248704034744?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/5499195248704034744/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=5499195248704034744&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5499195248704034744'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5499195248704034744'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/11/afghanistan-and-neo-colonialism.html' title='Afghanistan and neo-colonialism.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-5352632106525802861</id><published>2009-10-31T21:52:00.003Z</published><updated>2009-10-31T22:31:01.340Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='weekend round-up'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='weekend links'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='weekend'/><title type='text'>Weekend links.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;First off, it seems that Islam 4 UK aka Anjem Choudary and co, chickened out at the last minute &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/10/challenge-for-unite-against-fascism.html"&gt;from holding their march for Sharia law&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, instead moving it to an "unknown" location, presumably Wandsworth, although no one seems to know whether it went ahead or not.  The counter-demos did however take place, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6390"&gt;and Sunny has some picture&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;s.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Elsewhere the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/10/how-government-science-policy-works.html"&gt;exploits of David Nutt and Alan Johnson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; are foremost in the thoughts of others.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.chickyog.net/2009/10/31/alan-johnson-uses-drug-clamour-to-sack-nutt/"&gt;Justin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://tygerland.net/2009/10/30/johnson-fail/"&gt;Aaron&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/2009/10/drug-laws-cognitive-biases-democracy.html"&gt;Chris Dillow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://bleedingheartshow.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/death-by-bar-chart/"&gt;Neil Robertson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; all have posts on the sacking, sorry I mean resignation.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://paullinford.blogspot.com/2009/10/blair-presidency-would-be-gift-horse-to.html"&gt;Paul Linford isn't keen on the idea of Blair getting the EU presidency&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, although it seems highly unlikely he will, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://pennyred.blogspot.com/2009/10/day-of-dead.html"&gt;while Laurie Penny has a typically forceful post on the vigil for Ian Baynham&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;In the papers, or at least their sites, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1224221/PETER-OBORNE-Did-Blair-betray-Britain-years-bid-EU-president.html"&gt;Peter Oborne asks whether Blair was betraying Britain for years with his eye on the EU presidency&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, one of those newspaper questions to which the answer is always no.  Matthew Parris says being on the fence on Europe is the least painful position, which rather depends on the type of fence, and Tom Whipple hardly makes the best case for the continued criminalisation of cannabis by saying it comes from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6897378.ece"&gt;"ruthless, violent men"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  Because we couldn't have it sold by the local off-licence alongside the fags, could we?  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/amy-jenkins-were-all-paranoid-about-drugs-1812268.html"&gt;Amy Jenkins argues we're all paranoid about drugs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/howard-jacobson/howard-jacobson-make-me-laugh-ndash-even-at-an-offensive-joke-ndash-but-just-dont-be-so-smug-about-it-1812295.html"&gt;while Howard Jacobson in his usual style rather wonderfully takes down Jimmy Carr&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  Article of the weekend though, amazingly, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/oct/31/melanie-phillips-islamism-spectator"&gt;is Ed Husain for a quite wonderful take down of Melanie Phillips&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, one of the few people who might make some on the right listen about her rampant insanity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;As for the worst tabloid article of the weekend, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/10/amanda-platell-inane-hypocritical-and.html"&gt;Tabloid Watch has done another smackdown of Amanda Platell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, while without blowing my own horn in the slightest &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://the-sun-lies.blogspot.com/2009/10/disgrace-space.html"&gt;I've rather slapped down the Sun over its latest bout of Facebook-bashing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  Make your own choice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-5352632106525802861?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/5352632106525802861/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=5352632106525802861&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5352632106525802861'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5352632106525802861'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/10/weekend-links_31.html' title='Weekend links.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-7815349911897356390</id><published>2009-10-30T21:28:00.003Z</published><updated>2009-10-30T22:04:05.686Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='new media bollocks'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='new media'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gordon Brown'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fall of Gordon Brown'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bullshit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>That's how the cookie crumbles.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;That Gordon Brown, eh?  So indecisive &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8312215.stm"&gt;that he can't even decide what his favourite biscuit is&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, even though he was asked twelve times?  Indicative of his entire approach to government, right?  Dithering and prevaricating and procrastinating while our metaphorical Rome burns, unable to take charge and leaving everybody incensed with his behaviour?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Well, surprise surprise, it turns out that the now infamous question posed by the hardnosed politicos over at Mumsnet was never actually given to Brown to answer, although Brown himself said at the time he had "missed" the question.  In a blog posted on the site, an explanation behind how he "missed" it is given:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mumsnet.com/blogs/mumsnettowers/2009/10/30/a-little-rant-about-biscuits/"&gt;Now it’s not often we find ourselves feeling sorry for politicians but we have to admit to feeling more than a pang of sympathy for the PM over the past few weeks. Because the truth is that Gordon Brown didn’t follow the live chat on the screen directly - he answered the questions grouped and fed to him by MNHQ and his advisers. He didn’t avoid the biscuit question because it didn’t cross his path (as we said on Radio 5 on the day, in fact).&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mumsnet.com/blogs/mumsnettowers/2009/10/30/a-little-rant-about-biscuits/"&gt;Why did we do it that way? Well, there were so many questions and they were coming in thick and fast on every subject under the sun, so we reasoned that the most effective way of getting as much ground covered as possible was to group them together for him, rather than him answering random ones that he happened to notice.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://mumsnet.com/blogs/mumsnettowers/2009/10/30/a-little-rant-about-biscuits/"&gt;We had a pile as long as your arm on subjects ranging from climate change to childcare vouchers to treatment of asylum seekers. After he’d covered a question he would immediately demand, “What next?” Occasionally, we’d squeeze in a light-hearted one - for example, about what movies he wanted to see - but we were conscious of not merely focusing on frivolities. Fun as biscuits are, access to the Prime Minister is precious and we would have hated to waste time on Rich Tea Fingers at the expense of miscarriage or school starting age. Plus, of course, we’d rather not be seen as a soft touch in the GMTV sofa mould.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Why Downing Street themselves didn't point this fact out more forcefully is easy to explain - they knew they wouldn't be listened to and that if they did they themselves would have been accused of focusing on trivia.  It must though have been absolutely infuriating for all involved for this nonsense to be used to attack both Brown and the government, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/55261,news-comment,news-politics,gordon-brown-biscuitgate-at-last-a-crumb-of-truth"&gt;as both the Times and Sunday Times even included mentions to it in leader columns&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, while the Mail, typically, suggested his failure to make up his mind was because he was "apparently unable to decide what the   politically correct answer ought to be".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;As the astute writer behind the blog on Mumsnet points out, this is one of those supposedly frivolous things that can actually colour minds more significantly than an actual decision or policy might.  It was also manna from heaven for those who have already decided that Brown is a ditherer, even though this rather contradicts his supposed Stalinist ruthlessness that others have fingered him with having:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;In fact the real message of Biscuitgate is that whatever you do or say as a Prime Minister can and will be woven into any commentator’s particular beef or agenda, in order to prove their point. Who’d be a politician, eh?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Well, indeed.  Mumsnet does however some other pertinent criticism of the prime minister and his performance at the session:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;That’s not to say Biscuitgate didn’t reveal something about the Prime Minister. We strongly suspect that Mumsnetters resorted to asking about biscuits repeatedly towards the end of the chat because they were frustrated at being fed chunks of official policy rather than being engaged with directly. It’s hard, of course, to keep up with the banter on a board like ours - particularly if you’re not reading the actual chat and you’re a Mumsnet virgin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;But the truth is it has come more naturally to other politicians to speak to and emotionally connect with Mumsnetters. That, I think, is a fair criticism of Gordon Brown, as is a a certain brusqueness, intermittently displayed during his visit. What is unfair is that Biscuitgate proves just how indecisive or insincere Gordon Brown is - he might be, of course - what do I know? But there was absolutely nothing he did during his visit to Mumsnet Towers to suggest it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Or perhaps they simply had ran out of other things to ask?  That Brown was brusque or short though does fit with some other pictures painted of the man: he probably didn't want to be there or thought he could make better uses of his time.  After all, should the prime minister himself really be giving interviews to places like Mumsnet?  New media might be great and all, but wouldn't appearing on say, 5 Live and answering callers as Brown has also done in the past, and reasonably well from memory, be both more representative and reach far more people?  Wouldn't a health or family minister be a better fit and still able to answer other questions, if perhaps with not the same authority?  Brown might deserve a lot of things, and you can certainly suggest he brought it on himself, but like with John Major and tucking his shirt into his underpants, sometimes the most ludicrous things stick while much else gets forgotten.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-7815349911897356390?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/7815349911897356390/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=7815349911897356390&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/7815349911897356390'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/7815349911897356390'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/10/thats-how-cookie-crumbles.html' title='That&apos;s how the cookie crumbles.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-5895930212195388048</id><published>2009-10-30T20:48:00.002Z</published><updated>2009-10-30T21:08:19.030Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jacqui Smith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='drug stupidity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='war on drugs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='drug policies'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='drugs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='drug prohibition'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ecstasy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Home Office'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Alan Johnson'/><title type='text'>How government science policy works.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;1. In an effort to bring some evidence into a policy often made on the back of scaremongering, hysteria and misinformation, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advisory_Council_on_the_Misuse_of_Drugs"&gt;appoint an independent body&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; to examine and advise on what the specific dangers and harms of drugs are, with a view to bringing their suggestions on which drugs should stay legal and illegal, and if illegal, which category they should be in into line with the actual law.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;2. Ignore entirely what the board tells you &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2008/05/you-better-hope-you-dont-smoke-reefer.html"&gt;when it doesn't fall into line with you want to hear&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/02/war-on-drugs-marches-on.html"&gt;and especially so when it completely contradicts what the Daily Mail says&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;3. When the chief scientist on the board then complains about this and continues to maintain that his view is right while yours is wrong, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/feb/09/ecstasy-horse-riding"&gt;demand that he apologises for the "hurt" he caused to the families of those who have died while taking drugs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;4. When the chief scientist then again repeats his argument and accuses you of "devaluing and distorting" the scientific evidence, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/30/david-nutt-drugs-adviser-sacked"&gt;demand that he resigns for daring to express the opinion which you asked him to provide in the first place&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-5895930212195388048?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/5895930212195388048/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=5895930212195388048&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5895930212195388048'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/5895930212195388048'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/10/how-government-science-policy-works.html' title='How government science policy works.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-4364053097282469772</id><published>2009-10-29T23:56:00.005Z</published><updated>2009-10-30T20:33:31.247Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='smearing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Damian McBride'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guido'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bloggocks'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nadine Dorries'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='libel'/><title type='text'>How very cosy.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/labels/Nadine%20Dorries.html"&gt;Nadine Dorries&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, that noted flag carrier for lying and libel, has managed &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2009/10/mcbride-pays-1000-to-dorries.html"&gt;to wring a whole £1,000 from Damian McBride&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; over the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2009/04/spin-smears-and-faux-outrage.html"&gt;supposed libels he sent to Derek Draper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; while they were considering the setting up of the now infamous "Red Rag" website.  McBride, fairly enough, decided it wasn't worth the potential cost of going to court, even though these remarks about the sainted Ms Dorries were never actually published, were private remarks sent from one person to another and which would never have entered the public domain had Derek Draper's email not been "hacked" by persons unknown and sent to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.order-order.com/"&gt;Guido Fawkes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;.  It would have been fun of course for McBride to argue in court that Dorries had no reputation to defend, and considering that Dorries' lawyer has turned out to be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://donalblaney.blogspot.com/"&gt;Donal Blaney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, hardly the most feared silk in the libel capital of the world, you would have rated his chances.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;Alas, it was not to be.  It is of course completely irrelevant &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/05/smeargate_dorries.asp"&gt;that Dorries spent that weekend&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2009/04/draper-watson-call-in-lawyers-to-put.html"&gt;herself making clearly libellous accusations that Tom Watson knew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; about McBride's behaviour and did nothing about it, something which both the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/may/21/mail-on-sunday-tom-watson-damages-apology"&gt;Mail on Sunday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/28/the-sun-tom-watson"&gt;the Sun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; have now paid far larger sums out in damages to Watson for repeating.  It is also by no means hypocritical that Guido, a person who laughs at libel laws and declares that he is above such things, has profited from delivering the writ to McBride.  Fawkes is also, of course, a libertarian blogger and in no way associated with the Conservative party, despite the fact he has earned from delivering a letter on behalf of a Conservative MP, the other of which was also delivered by a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.torybear.com/"&gt;piss-poor Tory blogger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;, and which was from the offices of the equally piss-poor Donal Blaney, a Tory blogger.  Is that clear?  Good.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-4364053097282469772?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/4364053097282469772/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=4364053097282469772&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/4364053097282469772'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/4364053097282469772'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/10/how-very-cosy.html' title='How very cosy.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-3267057274416724637</id><published>2009-10-28T22:51:00.006Z</published><updated>2009-10-29T23:51:05.788Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scum-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sun-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Poppy fascism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='British National Party'/><title type='text'>BNpeas.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;From today's Viz:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.septicisle.info/uploaded_images/scan0001-709207.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 109px;" src="http://www.septicisle.info/uploaded_images/scan0001-709101.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Meanwhile, the Sun has figured out the best way to challenge the BNP: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2702455/BNP-soldier-in-Nazi-style-salute.html"&gt;find a soldier who supports the party on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, print a load of pictures of him doing things which 19-year-old BNP supporters do, and then claim that he brings shame upon his regiment.  Bound to end the feelings of victimhood the party feeds off in an instant.  Just to be consistently outraged by people doing things that others don't like which aren't directly harming anyone else, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sun_talk/2696884/Gauntys-New-Daily-Blog.html#"&gt;Jon Gaunt in his superb new blog attacks Harriet Harman for daring not to wear a poppy in the Commons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, as well as namesake Jon Snow even though he's declined to wear one for years.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2008/11/rise-of-poppy-fascism.html"&gt;Poppy fascism is still with us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, and seems to be getting worse.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-3267057274416724637?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/3267057274416724637/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=3267057274416724637&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/3267057274416724637'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/3267057274416724637'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/10/bnpeas.html' title='BNpeas.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-3429229387368924871</id><published>2009-10-27T22:13:00.005Z</published><updated>2009-10-28T00:01:25.384Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='David Cameron'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gordon Brown'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='European Union'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tony Blair'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>The real reason for the Blair presidency.</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.septicisle.info/uploaded_images/27.10.09-Steve-Bell-on-To-001-773265.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 300px;" src="http://www.septicisle.info/uploaded_images/27.10.09-Steve-Bell-on-To-001-773263.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;We've heard a lot recently about self-inflicted harm and acts of suicide, mainly in connection with the Royal Mail, yet much the same could be said about the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/26/tony-blair-european-union-presidency"&gt;curious, perplexing campaign springing up for Tony Blair to be the first permanent president of the European Council&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  The &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_european_council"&gt;power and prestige of the post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; is probably being exaggerated, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/?p=2418"&gt;as Nosemonkey argues&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, yet it's apparent it's not so much the job and the work involved but the title and impression which the person whom lands it will send.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;The first, resounding and most bamboozling question which it raises is just what damaging, horrendous and career ending secret information Blair has on Gordon Brown.  Despite everything we've been told about Brown's ever deteriorating relationship with Blair, he is still apparently "lobbying discreetly" for Blair to get the job.  At times Brown and Blair apparently didn't talk; at the lowest point, when Brown felt that Blair had reneged again on his promise to hand over the reins, he told him that he would never believe a word he said again.  A smart principle perhaps when dealing with someone as notoriously slippery as the "pretty straight kind of guy", but not one which is conducive to running a government.  Why, after everything, would Brown now still think that he'd be the best man for the job?  While Brown has always preferred the United States to Europe, even if unlike Blair it hasn't loved him back, he has never given the impression of wanting the EU to actively fail or to sabotage it from within.  Perhaps Brown is envious at how, again despite everything, Blair has so successfully turned his hand from leader into money-maker, something which you doubt Brown when he exits Downing Street will emulate.  Helping him get the job of EU president will for two and a half years at least severely undermine his earning power, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5489614.ece"&gt;even if when you're earning £12 million a year&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; you can easily afford to take a couple of years "off".  We're left with wondering just what this information Blair must have is.  How terrible could it be that you have to support someone for a job who you so actively loathe?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Just as mysterious but for the opposite reason is the Conservative opposition to Blair gaining the post.  Cameron and friends are still supposedly hoping that the Czech president will find a way to delay signing the Lisbon treaty, its last hurdle now that Ireland's voters were persuaded to change their mind and Poland's ratification, leaving them enough time to come to power and hold a referendum.  Not because Cameron himself is viscerally Eurosceptic, but mainly become the Tory base and Rupert Murdoch demand it.  Far more likely though is that the Czech president stops procrastinating and that Lisbon comes into effect long before the Tories get their shot at power, and that the other Tory promise to "not let matters rest" turns out to be as much froth as many of the other plans.  How better then to undermine an organisation and institution you regard as bad for the country than by ensuring that someone as unpopular in this country and controversial elsewhere as Blair becomes its figurehead?  Strangely then, despite joking about how bad it would make Brown look, William Hague &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/26/tony-blair-eu-presidency"&gt;supposedly would only allow Blair to become president over "his dead body"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/27/david-cameron-european-president-tony-blair"&gt;Cameron now thinks much the same&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, although he opposes the EU having a president, and that if it did, it should be someone who can chair meetings rather than grandstand on a global stage.  This doesn't seem to be based on personal dislike for Blair: after all, Cameron was the person who made his front bench raise in applause for Blair has he left and who has actively based his entire persona on the great man.  Could it be that, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://heresycorner.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-we-should-stop-worrying-and-learn.html"&gt;despite the Heresiarch's mocking&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, Cameron genuinely does fear being upstaged by Blair, or rather that he is much more afraid of a Europe which he would be far more inclined to agree with than would otherwise be the case?  Then there's the Rupert Murdoch factor again: Blair as EU president might be someone who Murdoch would be far less likely to ceaselessly attack.  Would a Blair presidency help somewhat with a reconciliation, something Cameron would most certainly not want to happen?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Strangest of all though is the apparent support of those who genuinely do believe in the European Union.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/27/iraq-european-union-president-blair"&gt;The Guardian is concerned only by the fact that Tony Blair might be a war criminal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;; otherwise he would be the most obvious and easily the most qualified candidate.  The European Union has never exactly been the most democratic of institutions, and the decision on who will become the president is certainly not with the European electorate as a whole but instead with the European council's 27 members, yet you thought even they might have seen the downsides of Blair becoming president.  There are after all not many convicted criminals or potential criminals in charge of democratic nations, Italy being a notable exception, but even Mr Berlusconi, despite his involvement with the Iraq war, is only likely to be a small player in any eventual prosecution of both Bush and Blair for their role in a war of aggression, the "supreme international crime".  Electing as your global representative someone who has never shown a moment's regret or pause and who declares that only God can be his judge is a difficult proposition to get your head round.  David Miliband's argument was that Europe needs someone &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/25/miliband-backs-blair-president-eu-new-post"&gt;who can stop traffic in global capitals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, although he probably didn't mean that those stopping the traffic would be the police in order to try to arrest him.  Bush after all never showed any inclination to travel, which is probably just as well, and Blair, although he has been globe-trotting, is probably still wary of nations which could attempt to have him charged with some sort of offence.  He probably couldn't get anywhere much safer than Israel, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quartet"&gt;as the current representative of the Quartet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, which must suit him down to the ground.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;In fact, I think I might have alighted on the real reason why Sarkozy and Merkel think Blair might be the right man for the job.  Nothing would seem more calculated to further ostracise the EU from this country, where probably the only person equally as unpopular as Blair is Brown himself.  Why not kill two birds with one stone?  Piss off Brown even if he's lobbying for it, as it must piss him off, and help start the formal exit of the United Kingdom from the European Union, as the nation's real leader, that man RM again, has long wanted.  What could possibly go wrong?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-3429229387368924871?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/3429229387368924871/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=3429229387368924871&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/3429229387368924871'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/3429229387368924871'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/10/real-reason-for-blair-presidency.html' title='The real reason for the Blair presidency.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-1331932476406231242</id><published>2009-10-26T22:18:00.004Z</published><updated>2009-10-26T22:53:42.853Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='terror'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='terrorism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='abuses by tabloids'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scum-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='leaks'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Birmingham terror raids'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='beheading plot'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sun-watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Parviz Khan'/><title type='text'>Scum-watch: Yet more lies about "evil terrorists".</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://the-sun-lies.blogspot.com/2009/10/apologising-to-abdul-muneem-patel.html"&gt;Last week the Sun had to apologise to Abdul Muneem Patel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt; for calling him an "evil terrorist" and claiming that he had been involved in the liquid explosives plot.  He had in fact been found guilty of having a document &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://www.septicisle.info/2008/04/scum-watch-harassing-evil-islamic.html"&gt;which could be useful to terrorists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, which the judge accepted he had unknowingly kept for a friend of his father's.  The judge also stated specifically that Patel was not a radicalised or politicised Islamist, but this didn't stop the Sun from telling Patel's neighbours a pack of lies about his supposed secret terrorist past.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;As could have been expected, the Sun has learnt absolutely nothing from having to print such a humiliating apology.  You might have thought they might have waited a little longer though to repeat almost exactly the same exercise, but obviously not.  This time the paper is outraged that&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2698881/Gang-who-plotted-to-kill-British-Muslim-soldier-are-set-free.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;THREE convicted terrorists who plotted to kidnap and behead a British Muslim soldier have been freed early from jail.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Hamid Elasmar, 46, Zahoor Iqbal, 32, and Mohammed Irfan, 33, were all caged less than two years ago. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div id="TixyyLink" style="border: medium none ; overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Except these three weren't convicted of plotting to kidnap and behead a British Muslim soldier, as a few minutes of fact checking would have made clear.  All three were in fact involved with the plot's ringleader, Parviz Khan, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7246646.stm"&gt;but in smuggling equipment to fighters in Pakistan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;.  The prosecutors accepted that Iqbal and Irfan had nothing to do with the beheading plot, while Elasmar's house was used for discussing the plot, although whether Elasmar was there at the time or not is unclear; considering he received the most lenient sentence of the three one would suspect he wasn't.  The Sun also has it completely wrong on Khan supposedly telling Elasmar that "we'll cut it off like you cut a pig"; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: georgia;" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7242891.stm"&gt;Khan was in fact talking to Basiru Gassama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;, already released and presumably deported.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;The Sun being the Sun, it couldn't just leave it at that.  No, it had to include a leader comment on its completely wrong article:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/sun_says/article244723.ece"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;HOW is it possible that three terrorists who planned to behead a squaddie have been freed within two years?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Err, because they didn't plan to behead a squaddie?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;Simple: They all behaved themselves in prison.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Oh, right, that must be it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" &gt;The breathtaking evil of the crime they plotted counted for nothing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Or it counted for nothing because they weren't involved in the "breathtaking evil" of the crime?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Good behaviour sprung them early from already derisory sentences. One was released in only five months, to a life on housing benefits.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Our justice system is a laughing stock.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia;"&gt;Only the Sun could call a sentence of seven years "derisory", which is what Iqbal received.  It might be derisory if Iqbal had been convicted of plotting to beheading a soldier, but he wasn't.  The real laughing stock here should be a so called newspaper that either can't or won't do the very basics of actual journalism, checking facts.  Anyone up for complaining to the Press Complaints Commission?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/14422435-1331932476406231242?l=www.septicisle.info' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/1331932476406231242/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14422435&amp;postID=1331932476406231242&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/1331932476406231242'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14422435/posts/default/1331932476406231242'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.septicisle.info/2009/10/scum-watch-yet-more-lies-about-evil.html' title='Scum-watch: Yet more lies about &quot;evil terrorists&quot;.'/><author><name>septicisle</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='16880104540062481839'/></author><thr:total xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'>0</thr:total></entry></feed>