Comments on The Anonymous Liberal: The Senate Caves In

The 2006 election is fast becoming a case of "meet...

2007-08-05T10:16:00.000-05:00

The 2006 election is fast becoming a case of "meet the new boss,same as the old boss." At least for now citizens still have a right to petition their government for redress of grievances. One way to exercise this right is to visit

pledgetoimpeach.org

and pledge to join a national 72 hr. "strike".

All this pushing/crossing the boundaries of the fo...

2007-08-05T09:02:00.000-05:00

All this pushing/crossing the boundaries of the fourth amendment is for what? A program that is fundamentally ineffective: data mining is not good at finding a small set of matches (terrorists) in a large data set (all foreign calls/emails). When marketers use data mining they are happy to get only 99% false positives, since that is still better than a random search. But using this to determine probable cause is beyond stupid. It adds nothing to our safety, and puts us all at much greater risk of government abuse.

Agree with all points. Especially the part about ...

2007-08-04T23:11:00.000-05:00

Agree with all points. Especially the part about six months. I'm sure there will be another scare, then, and Bush will again pull out the same trick, and the democrats do...what then?

Bush is such a transparent liar here, as you point out. The democrats are endangering national security by not passing this bill RIGHT NOW, when at any time in the last six years, he could have worked with Congress to fix the problem. Or even better, work with the congress, when the judge rejected the program as illegal, in January - that's 7 months ago, but somehow, the DEMOCRATS are delaying!!

It's such an obvious, utterly insinscere, lie, and such as egregious use of national security for political points. Bush is so transparenty - AGAIN!!! - putting politics above the security of this nation.

AL, couldn't agree more and it is all very, very d...

2007-08-04T20:49:00.000-05:00

AL, couldn't agree more and it is all very, very discouraging. I watched much of the senate debate with a growing sense of disgust. There are very fundamental problems with this current crop of democratic lawmakers.

The Yearly Kos event was all atwitter with Dean's keynote, and after listening to it, I found it a good speech. But unfortunately, this vote clearly shows that Howard Dean may sound good, but the chairman of the DNC unfortunately does not speak for the party. He does not speak for these democratic senators.

It is much better to cave in to President Bush ins...

2007-08-04T17:55:00.000-05:00

It is much better to cave in to President Bush instead of caving in to Osama bin Laden. Bravo to the Senate Democrats for acknowledging reality.

One could make the argument that FISA doesn't need...

2007-08-04T17:35:00.000-05:00

One could make the argument that FISA doesn't need any more "modernizing," since that was done with the Patriot Act back in 2001. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the minute it gets publicly revealed the FISA Court itself declared a portion of the program illegal, the Bush Administration suddenly "needs" FISA to be updated. Huh.

And to answer cmarshall4's question...Yes.

Question: as I understand it, the packet switching...

2007-08-04T17:03:00.000-05:00

Question: as I understand it, the packet switching technology that drives the internet and email is such that a given transmission might end up being routed almost anywhere, including outside the U.S. Does that mean Bush can now intercept most or all of our email?