tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-112973222008-06-24T08:22:07.874-05:00Philosophy of Mind WorkshopNat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comBlogger76125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-56575054052156013392008-02-11T18:03:00.000-06:002008-02-11T20:21:48.465-06:00Philosophical ImitationsStanley Cavell, in "Austin at Criticism", writes: <br /><br />"...it would be something of an irony if it turned out that Wittgenstein's manner were easier to imitate than Austin's; in its way, something of a triumph for the implacable professor" (114). <br /><br />There are two well-known humorous imitations of Wittgenstein's manner, that might be taken to confirm Cavell's irony: Michael Frayn's<a href="http://stevepetersen.net/personal/wittgenstein-fog.html"> "Fog-Like Sensations"</a> and Jerry Fodor's <a href="http://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/philo/faculty/block/miscellaneous/Fodor_Wittgenstein.png">Further Meteorological Addenda</a> to <i>PI</i>. And, of course, there is Derek Jarman's <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0cN_bpLrxk">Wittgenstein movie</a>. <br /><br />But Austin's manner has not completely avoided humorous imitation. There is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Fringe">Beyond the Fringe</a> sketch performed by Alan Bennett and Jonathan Miller in the 1960s that parodies the style of ordinary language philosophy: <br /><br /><a href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/R7DrVijPYKI/AAAAAAAAAzk/8eESl9PFpLc/s1600-h/Ordinary+Language+Beyond+the+Fringe.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/R7DrVijPYKI/AAAAAAAAAzk/8eESl9PFpLc/s400/Ordinary+Language+Beyond+the+Fringe.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5165887527878353058" /></a>(Bennett and Miller engaging in Ordinary Language Philosophy)<br /><br />A short excerpt: <br /><br />Bennett: <i>Other people have jobs to do, don't they? Um, what do people do these days... um, well, they...</i><br /><br />Miller: <i>Grow lawns, I believe.</i><br /><br />Bennett: <i>They do. They drive buses, or they sell ice cream. Or they play games.</i><br /><br />Miller: <i>Ah. More important.</i><br /><br />Bennett: <i>That's more important. Yes. We also games, you see. But we, as philosophers, we play language games. We play games with language. Language games...When you and I go onto the cricket pitch, we do so secure in the knowledge that a game of cricket is...well...it's in </i>the offing<i>, isn't it? It's not </i>in progress<i>, it's </i>in the offing<i>. But when we play </i>language games<i>, we do so rather to find out </i>what game it is we're playing<i>!</i><br /><br />Miller: <i>Ah, yes. </i>Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-71009645033999343462008-02-11T17:44:00.002-06:002008-02-14T16:20:32.924-06:00Philosophy of Mind Workshop Hiatus<a href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/R7DerSjPYJI/AAAAAAAAAzc/mJUb1FZQ4lc/s1600-h/1100213871_8170e4e0b4_b.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/R7DerSjPYJI/AAAAAAAAAzc/mJUb1FZQ4lc/s400/1100213871_8170e4e0b4_b.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5165873607889346706" /></a><br />This year, I'm only occasionally in Chicago and I haven't been attending the mind workshop. Since posts have slowed down, I am going to start using this spot to start posting links of philosophical interest so the mind workshop blog does not wither away.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-63188833660763481322007-10-16T15:37:00.000-05:002007-10-16T16:19:33.983-05:00First Meeting of the Year!The Mind Workshop met for its first meeting of the year the other week. There are a couple of changes: instead of spending the year mixing it up between student presentations and our ongoing reading, this year we will read for the first half of the year, and then have a series of student presentations beginning towards the end of the Winter Quarter, and continuing through the Spring. Nat has handed the co-ordinator's baton on to me, so if you'd like to present later in the year (and slots are filling up fast), or have any questions about the workshop, get in touch with me (wsmall AaTtt uchicago D. O. T edu).<br /><br />Our readings this year will be on the topic of disjunctivism. We'll be reading a series of classic and contemporary articles, rather than a book.<br /><br />The first meeting saw a healthy mix of old faces, new faces, ex-agitators, lapsed members, and a Swede who somehow fell into apparently incompatible categories. Our first reading was McDowell's 'Knowledge and the Internal'; there was beer, but no pizza. David F kicked things off with a brief presentation. Here's a sketchy recap:<br /><br />If we 'interiorize' the space of reasons, we are left with four options:<br />(i) scepticism;<br />(ii) the 'touching and naive' view that we can get from the appearances (which are consistent with falsity) to certainty [Brandom calls this <em>dogmatism</em>];<br />(iii) a thoroughgoing externalism that isn't interested in justification but instead carves the world up into those things that are reliable indicators and those things that are not [Brandom calls this <em>gonzo externalism</em>];<br />(iv) the 'hybrid view' that will be McDowell's focus. According to this view, justification is important (unlike the gonzo view), but it doesn't 'reach all the way' to the facts; when I have knowledge, it is in part due to the world doing me a favour --- this favour is external to any standing of mine in the space of reasons.<br /><br />There's a question about who actually holds the hybrid view. No one is mentioned by name (Peacocke's and Blackburn's views are in the vicinity, but aren't the target); David suggested that perhaps McDowell has (or had, when K&theI was written) Sellars in mind.<br /><br />The ensuing discussion focused largely on two issues:<br />(1) Just what objection is put to the hybrid view by this question of McDowell's: "But if there cannot be...standings in the space of reasons [that simply consist in a cognitive purchase on an objective fact, i.e., if the truth requirement on knowledge is conceived as external to the space of reasons], how can reason have the resources it would need in order to evaluate the reliability of belief-forming policies or habits?" (402-403, in the reprint in <em>Meaning, Knowledge, and Reality</em> (HUP 1998))?<br />Aidan insisted, for some time, that a Sellars/Davidson-style view was capable of rationally assessing the reliability of belief-forming policies by appealing to holistic considerations. (or, at least, he challenged McDowell to show that such considerations could not satisfy the demand for rational assessment). Various people tried various tacks in trying to respond. My thought was that, for any given belief, the holistic considerations that could tell for or against adopting that belief would be just the same considerations that could tell for or against revising the belief-forming practice; thus, there would not be the requisite friction between first- and second-order 'policies'. But this, like all the offerings, didn't satisfy Aidan...<br /><br />(2) What is the nature of McDowell's response, if indeed he has one, to the sceptic? Is it a consequence of McDowell's disjunctivism that, though perceptual knowledge is possible (<em>pace</em> the sceptic), one is never in a position to know whether one is in a good or bad case (thus opening a new wedge for the sceptic)? McDowell's answer to the latter question seems to be in the second half of n.19, and seems to be 'no', though no one was quite able to articulate the argument for this convincingly. (Sebastian Roedl, in his recent book <em>Self-Consciousness,</em> and in his talk to the Wittgenstein workshop at the end of last year attempts to articulate this 'no', but I don't have the references handy.)<br /><br />The workshop meets again tomorrow, in Cobb 101 6pm-8pm, when Stina Backstrom will kick off our discussion of Brandom's response to K&theI, 'Knowledge and the Social Articulation of the Space of Reasons', and McDowell's response to that response, 'Knowledge and the Internal Revisited'.<br /><br />As always, feel free to post comments and corrections; I'll try to get the recap of our meetings blogged more quickly in the future...Will Smallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16372470930212142000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-85410958567139703482007-09-06T11:15:00.000-05:002007-09-06T11:22:05.920-05:00Philosophy AudioJason Voigt has been putting up lots of philosophy in audio format. He just posted conversations between McDowell and Davidson and Dummett and Davidson, and a bunch of interviews with Quine, in addition to the Brandom mentioned in the previous post. <br /><br /><a href="http://joyrex.spc.uchicago.edu/sandbox/Davidson/">Davidson and McDowell, Davidson and Dummett</a><br /><br /><a href="http://joyrex.spc.uchicago.edu/sandbox/Quine/">Quine and Block, Dennett, Dreben, Boolos, Goldfarb</a><br /><br /><a href="http://joyrex.spc.uchicago.edu/sandbox/Robert_Brandom/Locke_Lectures/">Brandom</a><br /><br />Thanks again, Jason.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-4998314627436729572007-09-04T17:42:00.003-05:002008-04-07T11:11:49.883-05:00Brandom's Locke Lectures<a href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/Rt3gXWNCofI/AAAAAAAAAhY/S-iOTHp1lDU/s1600-h/FMPro.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/Rt3gXWNCofI/AAAAAAAAAhY/S-iOTHp1lDU/s400/FMPro.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5106484244209902066" /></a><br />Our technology correspondent, Jason Voigt, has made MP3s of Robert Brandom's Locke Lectures that are available for download <a href="http://joyrex.spc.uchicago.edu/~jvoigt/brandom/locke/">here.</a><br /><br />Jason says: "First, anyone looking for an initial point of entry can find a decent summary of each of the lectures <a href="http://www.arts.ualberta.ca/~pex/wordpress/?p=126">here.</a> Second, Brandom has also presented an overview of the new project and discussed its motivations in a lecture available <a href="http://www.usyd.edu.au/time/conferences/epr/brandom.pdf">here.</a>"<br /><br />Thanks, Jason.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-64964854012739341032007-06-25T11:54:00.000-05:002007-06-25T12:06:27.056-05:00Davidson Video Series<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/Rn_1TlR0urI/AAAAAAAAAas/AoGgFa8-AJU/s1600-h/davidson.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/Rn_1TlR0urI/AAAAAAAAAas/AoGgFa8-AJU/s400/davidson.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5080048621470399154" /></a><br /><br />Inspired by our acquisition and viewing of the Strawson-Evans conversation on truth, Jason Voigt has suggested that the library order a massive series of interviews with Davidson. Jason sent me this blurb:<br /><br />"In this comprehensive video archive, Professor Davidson defends his position in a series of intensive one-on-one conversations each scrutinizing a particular topic; he participates in a summit panel discussion with W. V. Quine and Sir Peter Strawson which explores some similarities and differences between them; and he speaks candidly in a scene-setting biographical interview with Rudolf Fara of the London School of Economics. The Davidson Series is a major resource for teaching from undergraduate upwards as well as an important research archive. The series contains nineteen VHS videos (available in all formats) and a Series Guide."<br /><br />Anyone interested in finding out more about the series can check out this <a href="http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/PI/davidson_video_series.htm ">link.</a> <br /><br />The series is expensive, so it might require more than one request before the library buys the series. If you're interested, you can email the bibliographer for philosophy at:<br /><br />bbidlack@uchicago.edu<br /><br />If the library does purchase the series, we could have a contest to see who can watch the most of it. It contains about 20+ hours of footage.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-62810136215199235112007-05-31T15:34:00.001-05:002007-06-04T15:21:20.479-05:00Can You Have a Demonstrative Thought About a Color?Last night the workshop met for the final time this academic year to discuss Rachel Goodman's paper "Demonstrative Thoughts as a Response to Lewis". Both the paper and discussion were complicated and interesting. I'll just summarize a few central topics here. <br /><br />Rachel's target was anyone who wanted to respond to Jackson's knowledge argument by saying that what Mary acquires when she leaves her black and white room is the ability to have demonstrative thoughts about colors. Jason and David tentatively suggested that they were interested in that way of describing what happens to Mary when she leaves the room during the last meeting of the workshop. <br /><br />Rachel's strategy was to try to show that there are disanalogies between a paradigmatic kind of demonstrative thought that concerns objects individuated according to their location in space and time and putatively demonstrative thoughts that concern colors. If the disanalogies are great enough then it would be a mistake to say that what happens to Mary when she leaves the room is that she acquires the ability to have demonstrative thoughts about colors. <br /><br /><b>First Disanalogy</b><br /><br />The central disanalogy that Rachel wanted to argue for involved the possibility of a certain kind of failure that is present in the case of demonstrative thoughts about spatio-temporal objects that isn't present (she claimed) in the case of (putative) demonstrative thoughts about colors. That failure is the following:<br /><br />It is possible to have the thought <i>That cup is blue</i>, while thinking about a BOTTLE, and still successfully have an object-dependent thought about the bottle. That is, you can apply the wrong sortal and still succeed in having a thought that is about an object (as long as it is in roughly the right place in space and time). Rachel wanted to say that in such a case you still succeed in having an object-dependent demonstrative thought. <br /><br />In contrast, Rachel claimed, you can't have the same kind of failure in the case of a putatively demonstrative thought about a color. So, for example, it wouldn't be possible to think <i>That color is beautiful</i>, while getting the sortal wrong and still having an object-dependent demonstrative thought. It wouldn't make sense to say that you managed to have a thought about a TEXTURE or a SHAPE, for example, if you took yourself to be referring to a color. It was on the basis of this disanalogy that Rachel claimed it wasn't possible to have demonstrative thoughts about colors.<br /><br />Members of the workshop objected to this line of reasoning in different ways. <br /><br />Jason didn't think you could have an object-dependent demonstrative thought in the case where you apply the wrong sortal to the cup. <br /><br />Justin suggested that there was a corresponding kind of failure in the case of a color, if the sortal was chosen correctly. So, for example, you might think <i>That pastel is beautiful</i>, and be mistaken about the fact that the color you demonstrated was a pastel (maybe it was flourescent or neutral). <br /><br /><b>Second Disanalogy</b><br /><br />At another point in the discussion, Rachel said that unlike demonstrative thoughts about spatio-temporal objects, thoughts about colors didn't involve a "mapping" of egocentric features onto objective features. When you have a demonstrative thought about spatio-temporal objects, you think about <i>That cup</i> both as located in space relative to you and as located in objective space. But in the case of putative demonstrative thoughts about colors, Rachel claimed that there wasn't an analogous mapping of subjective features (in this case, something like color phenomenology) onto anything objective. I objected to this suggestion because insofar as someone can recognize a difference between how things seem to him (say I'm wearing 3-D glasses and everything appears either red or green) and how those things really are colored, then there is the possibility of a "mapping" of subjective features of experience onto (more or less) objective features. <br /><br />There was also discussion of McDowell's notion that having a demonstrative thought about a color involved the presence of a sample. Jason and David discussed the possibility of a thought that depended not on the presence of the object that it is about, but on the presence of some other object (the sample). We didn't make much headway on this topic, however. <br /><br />After the workshop, we watched a discussion between Gareth Evans and P.F. Strawson on the nature of truth, filmed for the Open University in 1973. <br /><br />This was the last meeting of the mind workshop for this year. The workshop will resume in the fall, with a new grad student organizer: Will Small.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-53774747288932000112007-05-19T14:29:00.000-05:002007-05-19T14:33:36.601-05:00McKinney on Biosemantics; Lewis on Experience<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/Rk9Qbh2CdyI/AAAAAAAAAY0/2AFJg_06368/s1600-h/IMG_2700.JPG"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/Rk9Qbh2CdyI/AAAAAAAAAY0/2AFJg_06368/s400/IMG_2700.JPG" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5066356539686811426" /></a><br />At this week's mind workshop, Tucker McKinney presented some of his work on Millikan, and Jason presented on David Lewis's "What Experience Teaches". Jason proposed that what happens to Mary when she leaves the black and white room is that she acquires demonstrative concepts of the colors.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-42370108642820361722007-04-11T15:21:00.000-05:002007-04-11T15:23:02.575-05:00David Velleman<a href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/Rh1DeLaAKGI/AAAAAAAAAVc/fRoiuH0sW68/s1600-h/img002.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/Rh1DeLaAKGI/AAAAAAAAAVc/fRoiuH0sW68/s400/img002.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5052268542716553314" /></a>Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-4897770518763506402007-03-25T14:06:00.000-05:002007-03-25T14:09:08.711-05:00Martin Gustafsson: "What is a Context?"<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/RgbIu3BGImI/AAAAAAAAATI/meVD4mLBvf8/s1600-h/martinposter.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/RgbIu3BGImI/AAAAAAAAATI/meVD4mLBvf8/s400/martinposter.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5045941139883303522" /></a>Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-61148716841783012422007-03-11T18:15:00.000-05:002007-03-11T18:18:41.032-05:00Winter Quarter UpdateThe Mind Workshop had its last meeting of the winter quarter last Wednesday. We discussed chapters 5 and 6 of Campbell's <i>Reference and Consciousness</i>. We decided that next quarter we would switch to a brand new format, based around the best papers in philosophy of mind rather than books. <br /><br />The first meeting of the workshop will be March 28, when we will meet to discuss a new paper by Martin Gustafsson, of the University of Stockholm. Martin's paper is a defense of contextualist accounts of communication against recent attacks by Cappelen and Lepore and our own Jason Bridges.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-22456820441535042822007-02-08T17:11:00.000-06:002007-02-08T17:39:34.500-06:00Justin Shaddock, "Passive Experience and the Freedom of Spontaneity"Last night the philosophy of mind workshop met to discuss Justin Shaddock's "Passive Experience and the Freedom of Spontaneity" and the first two chapters of John Campbell's <span style="font-style: italic;">Reference and Consciousness</span>. We started with a discussion of Justin's paper.<br /><br />Justin argued that there is a prima facie problem with McDowell's Kantian theory of perception. If you accept that experience is conceptual, and you accept that the conceptual necessarily involves spontaneity, and spontaneity is a form of freedom, then it looks difficult to hold on to the idea that experience is passive. Obviously, there are a couple different options you might take to relieve this tension: you can reject the idea that experience is conceptual; you can reject the idea that the conceptual essentially involves a form of freedom; or you can do what Justin does and say that there's a way to see experience as caught up with the freedom characteristic of concepts.<br /><br />Justin's main claim is that the content of experience can not only play a justificatory role, but that it can actually be <span style="font-style: italic;">changed</span> when your conceptual capacities change. So, for example, pyrite might look like gold to someone who doesn't know the difference between pyrite and gold, but to a person who is trained to recognize the difference between pyrite and gold, pyrite will <span style="font-style: italic;">look</span> different (to the trained eye). So a change in conceptual capacities produces a change in the content of experience.<br /><br />David worried about the following possibility: If you think that the world (in some sense) contains "looks", so that it is just a fact that one of the lines in the Müller-Lyer illusion <span style="font-style: italic;">looks</span> longer than the other, even if the illusion is so well-known that you would never judge that the lines are different lengths. So the content of your experience is just what it was when you began: one line looks longer than the other. But you're never taken in by the illusion--you know the lines are the same length.<br /><br />Others, like Ben, felt that the idea that the content of our experience changed as a result of a change in our conceptual capacities was just intuitively implausible. The experience of John the tie salesman doesn't change after he learns that blue ties look green under the yellow lights of the tie-shop--he just gets better at responding to ties that look green in the shop by saying "That's a blue one". There was some argument about how best to describe what happens to John after he learns what yellow lighting does.<br /><br />I wondered why Justin felt compelled to reject what he called "the standard reading" of McDowell on this issue of the conceptual content of experience and the spontaneity of concepts. I understand McDowell's view to be that the content of experience is conceptual because it can play a role (as a premise) in justifying our other beliefs. Justin proposes that not only can the contents of experience be premises, but that they can be (kind of like) conclusions of arguments, in that changes in concepts can produce changes in the contents of experience.<br /><br />In the second half of the workshop, we discussed the first two chapters of Campbell's <span style="font-style: italic;">Reference and Consciousness</span>. I will summarize that discussion in the next post.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-19070731874579920132007-01-25T14:21:00.000-06:002007-01-25T14:52:36.871-06:00David Velleman, The Possibility of Practical Reason, "Introduction" (Part II)[This is a continuation of the summary of our discussion of the "Introduction" to David Velleman's <i>The Possibility of Practical Reason</i>, which begins in the previous post.]<br /><br /><b>Velleman's Account of What Makes Behavior Into an Action</b><br /><br />Velleman dismisses the "standard model" and the "hierarchical model" of what makes behavior into an action. What is Velleman's model? <br /><br />Velleman's striking view is the following (this, as usual, is a rough summary): what makes something an action is that it is done with the "higher-order aim of knowing what [one] is doing". The Freudian slip case isn't an action because the speaker doesn't utter "I hereby declare this meeting closed" or "I live in a building with a hated pool" in order to know what he is doing. The climber dropping his partner and the speaker's crying don't count as actions for the same reason--the person doesn't drop his partner or cry in order to know what he is doing. <br /><br />The workshop consensus about this view was that it was very strange. It seems straightforwardly false that I do the various things I do in order to know myself. Jason has often used the example of saving a drowning child to illustrate the strangeness of Velleman's view. Say I see my child drowning and I jump in to save his life. A philosopher asks me, "Why did you do that?" It seems that Velleman would think it reasonable to say "So as to better know myself". But that would be a weird thing to say. <br /><br />There has been some feeling among some of the members of the workshop that we're not really grasping something important about Velleman's view, because the (rough) way of presenting it that was just given looks very implausible. I think one of David's reasons for assigning this "introduction" this week was that it looked like Velleman had an account of how the desire for self knowledge was not an "agential" reason, but something "sub-agential", and so not the kind of thing that you'd cite in an action-explanation. So, perhaps with self-knowledge as a sub-agential reason, you wouldn't get strange explanations of why you jumped in the river to save your child like the one given in the previous paragraph. But after a closer look, we couldn't find anything more substantial than Velleman's claim that the desire for self-knowledge is "sub-agential", and there was not an explanation of what that means. Does being "sub-agential" mean the desire for self-knowledge doesn't, or can't, figure in ordinary action-explanations? It's not clear. <br /><br />There was a fair amount of discussion of points of detail, but I will conclude with one foundational question that was pressed (like many of the others) by Jason. <br /><br /><b>The Constitutive Aim of Action</b><br />Why think that there is some one thing that is <i>the</i> constitutive aim of action? It looks like a specifically philosophical urge to find a single, overarching principle that holds together everything that falls within the grab bag of behavior we call actions. Maybe some of our actions aim at world peace, and others at achieving some personal satisfaction, and some aim at amassing wealth, and so on? Need there be some aim that all of these share? Jason suggested that there need not be. Giving up the search for such a single aim present in all actions might radically change the shape of a theory of action, possibly for the better. <br /><br /><i>The workshop will meet again in two week's time to discuss some portion of John Campbell's </i> Reference and Consciousness. <i>See you there</i>.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-44835316444279509702007-01-24T21:16:00.000-06:002007-01-26T01:08:07.074-06:00David Velleman, The Possibility of Practical Reason, "Introduction" (Part I)At the end of last meeting, David suggested that we read the introduction to Velleman's <i>The Possibility of Practical Reason</i> to wrap up our discussion of Velleman, since he thought it would provide the best view of the position as a whole and maybe answer some of the questions that have been raised over the past quarter about Velleman's view of action. <br /><br />So we read it, and tonight we met to discuss it. <br /><br />As one might expect, Jason gave a very clear and incisive introduction to Velleman's "introduction", and raised some worries about it. <br /><br />Velleman is interested in answering the following question: given an event, and an agent, what makes it the case that the event is an <i>action</i> of the agent? More specifically, he's interested in a constitutive, non-circular answer to that question. Jason noted that thinking that question can be answered is already to make a substantial assumption. <br /><br />But let's say we assume that such a constitutive account of what makes an event an action is possible. What's the best version we can give? <br /><br /><b>The Standard Model</b><br /><br />What Velleman calls the "standard model" attempts to answer this question in the following way: an event is an action (of an agent A) provided it is caused by a belief and a desire (belonging to A). More specifically, "we want something to happen, and we believe that some behavior of ours would constitute or produce or at least promote its happening" (5). The belief and the desire are supposed to be both the cause and the reason for A's action. <br /><br />Velleman says that the Standard Model (SM) "runs afoul of obvious counterexamples". In the counterexamples, "behavior is caused by a desire and a belief but fails to constitute an action performed for reasons". <br /><br /><b>Counterexample #1</b>: Velleman gives his version of Davidson's mountain climber case. A speaker "desire[s] to win the sympathy of his audience, and his belief that nothing short of tears would suffice [to win the sympathy of his audience]" "frustrate[s] him to the point of tears" (7). So the belief and the desire cause the speaker to cry, but not in the way that is required for the belief and the desire to count as a reason for crying. <br /><br />The SM could be modified to exclude a case like this, possibly in the way proposed by Davidson, where the belief and the desire have to cause the action "in the right way" (which is not meant as a non-circular way of specifying what's required to count as a reason), or in the not obviously circular way suggested by Velleman: the belief and desire have to "exercise their characteristic powers in causing the behavior". <br /><br />There was some argument between Jason and Will about whether the Davidsonian way of handling this kind of counterexample was the same as the one mentioned by Velleman (the consensus reached was that they're not, because Jason said that "characteristic powers" is a phrase that has its home in reductive naturalistic accounts of action). <br /><br /><b>Counterexample #2</b>: Even if the standard model is modified in the way proposed by Velleman (by adding the requirement that a belief and a desire have to cause behavior according to their "characteristic powers" for the behavior to count as an action), there is still another problem that shows it can't be an adequate account of what makes a bit of behavior an action. <br /><br />Velleman thinks that "activity" like Freudian slips and "bungled actions" (which don't turn out to be actions at all, on Velleman's account) pose a problem for the standard model. When Dr. Katz says, in a conversation about his ex-wife, that he lives in a building with a <i>hated pool</i>, his utterance was caused by a desire to express his hatred of his ex-wife, and a belief that by saying "hated pool" instead of "heated pool", he would express that belief, and his motive (his belief and desire) would be exercising their characteristic powers in this case. And yet Velleman says that in the case of a Freudian slip like this, Dr. Katz's utterance "doesn't qualify as an action" (8). <br /><br />So the standard model classifies things that aren't actions as actions. So we need a better account of what makes behavior action, rather than mere "activity". <br /><br /><b>The Hierarchical Model</b><br />Velleman then considers a Frankfurt-like "hierarchical model" of what makes a bit of behavior an action. Roughly, according to the hierarchical model, when a belief and a desire <i>plus</i> a higher-order desire for the desire cause a bit of behavior, that behavior is an action (12).<br /><br />Velleman thinks that "the hierarchical model...as an improvement on the standard model, because it requires the subject to be reflectively aware of his motives in order to act autonomously. A Freudian slip takes its agent by surprise, thereby casting him in the passive role of observer...Such a lack of self-awareness would not have disqualified the resulting behavior from being an autonomous action according to the standard model, but it is indeed disqualifying according to the hierarchical model. For an agent cannot want or be content to be motivated by a desire he is unaware of having" (12). <br /><br />Several people (Jason most of all) took issue with this claim. Why can't someone have unconscious second-order desires? Jason gave (a version of) the following example: In therapy, I try to understand why instead of making fun of some hapless coworker, I inadvertently protected him from ridicule by doing something unexpected (comically crashing into a cubicle, say). I reason about my behavior as follows: "I must have wanted to help my co-worker avoid ridicule, and I must have thought that that was a worthy thing to do (desired to desire it)". So it's at least not obvious that there can't be unconscious second order desires. <br /><br />But this isn't a serious objection to Velleman's overall project, because Velleman doesn't think the hierarchical model suffices as an account of action. But we had a worry about why Velleman thinks it is insufficient. Velleman's view that the hierarchical model is insufficient rests on a version of Freud's case of the president who opens the meeting by saying "I hereby declare this meeting <i>closed</i>". If the president was depressed about the opening of the session, he might thereby have desired to close the session, and so had a second-order desire to desire to declare the session closed. But in such a case the president, according to Velleman, would not have been "autonomous"--his utterance would not have counted as an <i>action</i>: "If anything, [the cause of the president's behavior] would have expressed a lack of will on his part, under the weight of a psychic force that is usually regarded as pathological or alien" (13). <br /><br />The worry (again raised by Jason) about Velleman's account of the inadequacy of the hierarchical model was that it seems like Velleman is committed to the odd view that behavior that is caused by depression isn't <i>action</i>. This reflects a recurring tendency of Velleman's to say certain things people do (Freudian slips, bungled "actions", behavior at least partly caused by depression or <i>ennui</i>) are "alien", when it seems intuitive that they are still kinds of actions. <br /><br /><i>to be continued...</i>Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-29074880710353267482007-01-24T21:11:00.000-06:002007-01-24T21:14:04.758-06:00Second Meeting of the Winter QuarterThe Mind Workshop met tonight to discuss the introduction to David Velleman's <i>The Possibility of Practical Reason</i>. This concluded our quarter-and-a-half-long discussion of Velleman's theory of action. I will post a summary of the central concerns that have been raised during our discussions soon. <br /><br />In two weeks, we will meet to read and discuss some portion of John Campbell's <i>Reference and Consciousness</i>.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-48405186492317581332007-01-07T14:59:00.000-06:002007-01-07T15:00:50.052-06:00First Meeting of Winter QuarterThe Philosophy of Mind Workshop will meet on Wednesday, January 10th to discuss David Velleman's "From Self Psychology to Moral Philosophy". The workshop meets from 6-8pm in Cobb 101.<br /><br />See you there.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-9551154721596885562006-12-30T13:19:00.000-06:002006-12-30T13:22:56.984-06:00Philosophers on Film: Strawson and Evans Chat<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/RZa71kok_LI/AAAAAAAAAFM/xC5DbZ_sdb8/s1600-h/Picture+1.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/RZa71kok_LI/AAAAAAAAAFM/xC5DbZ_sdb8/s400/Picture+1.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5014401764164959410" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/RZa76Uok_MI/AAAAAAAAAFU/KWJDt3RQjm4/s1600-h/Picture+2.png"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_3VPopNOZdwE/RZa76Uok_MI/AAAAAAAAAFU/KWJDt3RQjm4/s400/Picture+2.png" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5014401845769338050" /></a><br /><br />Zed brought this to my attention. I will look this up next time I'm in Oggsford.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-22953581636915181862006-11-29T10:40:00.000-06:002006-11-29T10:41:20.750-06:00"Self to Self"On November 1st, the workshop met in Cobb 103 to discuss David Velleman's paper, "Self to Self".<br /><br />PART I<br /><br />Jason introduced the paper by pointing out how Velleman distinguishes the psychological sense of self from the metaphysical sense of personal identity. Velleman is concerned with conditions of selfhood through time. Roughly, what makes a future or a past self mine is my ability to anticipate certain experiences or have certain intentions or memories without needing to identify whose experiences, intentions, or memories they are. That ability is distinguished from the activity of imaginitive identification with someone else, e.g. Napoleon.<br /><br />I can imagine that I am Napoleon by imagining certain experiences as being had by Napoleon from a first-personal point of view: how the smoke and noise of Austerlitz must have seemed to him, for example. This kind of imaginitive identification requires imagining having his experiences first-personally. But in so doing, I have to additionally think of these experiences as being had by Napoleon. My imagining that I am Napoleon would therefore involve thoughts of the following kind:<br /><br />I see that the allied center is weak.<br />I am going to ask Marshal Soult how long it will take the troops to reach the Pratzen Heights.<br />I am ordering the attack on the Austrian & Russian forces.<br />"I" here refers to Napoleon.<br /><br />The final thought ("I" here refers to Napoleon) is what distinguishes "imagined seeing" from memory or anticipation, which are more intimate relations I have to my own selves. What accounts for the special kind of relation we have to memories or anticipated experiences or intentions that is missing in the case of mere imaginings? It is some kind of (special?) causal relationship:<br /><br />"I don't have to specify a person from whose point of view I am trying to frame my intention, because the future point of view is fixed by the future causal history of the intention itself" (71).<br /><br />"I do not center the memory on any past subject--it is just presented to me as having been copied from a visual impression, and it consequently represents things as seen by the subject of the impression from which it was, in fact, copied. Who he was is then determined by the image's causal history" (59-60).<br /><br />Velleman thinks that with the distinction between self and personal identity in place, he can make better sense of what we are interested in in splitting cases. We care about being able to anticipate experiences and frame intentions without having to have the additional thought that the self having the experiences is, e.g., David Velleman. If I know that my brain is going to be split and implanted in two different bodies, I can't anticipate experiences without also specifying which of the recipients is going to have the experience, the thought goes.<br /><br />PART II: Discussion was wide-ranging. The following is a small selection of the topics we covered:<br /><br />1. Jason asked whether it's correct to say that a memory "purports to be a copy of a visual impression". What does this copy purport amount to? Is it part of the content of the memory? It seems that usually, I can just remember an event, or an object, without there being any sense that my memory is a "copy" of a visual impression.<br /><br />2. It struck the workshop as odd that Velleman is happy to say that given a suitable causal history, I can have Napoleon's memories in the same sense in which I can have my own, as presented to me as being mine without any additional thought of identification. So, for example, if Napoleon's memories were somehow transferred to me, it would be true to say that I remember being at Austerlitz and giving the order to attack the Allied forces. [Would this be any consolation to Rachel, the replicant in Bladerunner who finds out that her childhood memories are implants, supplied by the niece of the person who programmed her? It seems that Deckard, equipped with Velleman's account of selfhood, could say that those memories are Rachel's, even though the experiences that are their source were had by a different person.]<br /><br />3. I asked about Velleman's account of intention. Velleman says "I don't have to specify a person from whose point of view I am trying to frame my intention, because the future point of view is fixed by the future causal history of the intention itself" (71). But what about a surprise splitting case, where on November 29th I frame an intention to write and drop off a check at the housing office tomorrow, but while I'm sleeping, my brain is split and implanted in two different bodies. The intention survives the split, and on November 30th, both recipients of my brain halves write a check and drop it off at the housing office. If the future point of view is fixed by the causal history of the intention, then which of these two points of view was the one that I had in mind in framing my intention? It doesn't look as if there is an obvious answer to that question. So it appears that the "future causal history" of the intention is not enough to fix the person from whose future point of view the intention will be carried out.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-6662632060578247132006-10-30T08:50:00.000-06:002006-10-30T08:51:38.994-06:00First Velleman ReadingThis week the workshop will discuss David Velleman's essay "Self to Self", which is collected in his book <i>Self to Self</i>.<br /><br />We will meet on Wednesday, November 1st in Cobb 103.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-8398438287905808562006-10-04T21:10:00.000-05:002006-10-04T21:33:16.921-05:00First Meeting of the Year<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/1600/IMG_0687.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/400/IMG_0687.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/1600/IMG_0689.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/400/IMG_0689.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/1600/IMG_0688.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/400/IMG_0688.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br />Tonight the workshop met to discuss readings for the upcoming year. We quickly narrowed the field to Campbell's <i>Reference and Consciousness</i> and Velleman's <i>Self to Self</i>. There were some outside agitators (Dan G. and Micah L.) who threw their support behind the Velleman. Mind Workshop regular Will S. argued for the Campbell. A couple die-hards held out unsuccessfully for the Chalmers. The arguments weren't nearly as vehement and the votes were not as close as <a href="http://mindworkshop.blogspot.com/2005/09/plan-for-fall-quarter.html">last year</a>. We decided to do both the Velleman and the Campbell, starting with the Velleman. <br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/1600/IMG_0691.1.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/400/IMG_0691.1.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a> <br /><br />The workshop meets again in two weeks.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-1935957445697251942006-09-20T12:01:00.000-05:002006-09-20T12:02:39.630-05:00Mind Workshop, Fall QuarterThe Philosophy of Mind Workshop will meet in even weeks this quarter, beginning Wednesday, October 4th. We will meet in Cobb 103 from 6-8pm.<br /><br /><a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/1600/IMG_0634.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/400/IMG_0634.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />(Pictured above are some of the sources for past readings discussed by the workshop.)Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-46865465026106977202006-08-29T01:36:00.000-05:002006-08-29T02:02:56.852-05:00Mind Workshop Logo (Prototype)<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/1600/Phil%20Mind%20WorkshopModified.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/400/Phil%20Mind%20WorkshopModified.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a>A new look for the new academic year.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-81102588570949946672006-08-28T01:12:00.000-05:002006-08-28T01:34:44.360-05:00Late SummerSummer is nearing its end. Or at least it as most places. Here at the U of C we still have another month or so.<br /><br />Back in the spring, at the final meeting of the 2005/2006 workshop year, we decided on a shortlist of books to vote on in the fall. The shortlisted works are the following:<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0199243816.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0199243816.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><span style="font-style: italic;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0199243816/sr=1-1/qid=1156746837/ref=sr_1_1/102-8799717-2259353?ie=UTF8&s=books"><br />Reference and Consciousness</a></span>, by John Campbell.<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/1600/0521670241.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/554/1379/200/0521670241.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><span style="font-style: italic;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0521670241/sr=1-1/qid=1156746798/ref=sr_1_1/102-8799717-2259353?ie=UTF8&s=books">Self to Self</a></span>, by David Velleman.<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://host.uniroma3.it/progetti/kant/field/cowiep.gif"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://host.uniroma3.it/progetti/kant/field/cowiep.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><span style="font-style: italic;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195159780/sr=1-1/qid=1156746753/ref=sr_1_1/102-8799717-2259353?ie=UTF8&s=books">What's Within</a></span>, by Fiona Cowie.<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://yanko.lib.ru/books/philosoph/chalmers=the_conscious_mind=en=ann.files/image001.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://yanko.lib.ru/books/philosoph/chalmers=the_conscious_mind=en=ann.files/image001.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><span style="font-style: italic;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195117891/sr=8-1/qid=1156746698/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8799717-2259353?ie=UTF8">The Conscious Mind</span></a>, by David Chalmers.<br /><br />I've also added some new features, including a new list of philosophy links and a list of previous workshop readings. They're over on the sidebar. Enjoy.<br /><span style="font-style: italic;"></span>Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-1150069147940555072006-06-11T18:35:00.000-05:002006-06-11T18:39:07.953-05:00Mind Workshop: Summer Vacation<a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4967/910/1600/Picture%202.png"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4967/910/400/Picture%202.png" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />(The image above is the result of plugging the mind workshop into the website<a href="http://www.aharef.info/static/htmlgraph/"> Websites as Graphs</a>.)<br /><br />The Philosophy of Mind Workshop is now on summer vacation. Any posts here will be infrequent and short until school starts back up again in the fall. <br /><br />Enjoy the summer.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11297322.post-1149141441305331142006-06-01T00:41:00.000-05:002007-01-26T01:10:05.298-06:00Final Workshop Meeting of the Year: Sense and Sensibilia, Chapters X and XI<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4967/910/1600/DSCN2534.0.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4967/910/400/DSCN2534.0.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4967/910/1600/DSCN2533.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4967/910/400/DSCN2533.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><br />Tonight the workshop met for the last time this academic year. We discussed the last two chapters of <i>Sense and Sensibilia</i> and what we might read in the fall.<br /><br />I will post a synopsis of our discussion of Austin shortly.<br /><br />We decided on four possible books for the fall:<br /><br />1. John Campbell, <i><a href="http://www.us.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Philosophy/Mind/?view=usa&ci=9780199243815">Reference and Consciousness</a></i><br />2. Fiona Cowie, <i><a href="http://www.us.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Philosophy/Mind/?view=usa&ci=9780195159783">What's Within: Nativism Reconsidered</a></i><br />3. David Chalmers, <i><a href="http://www.us.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Philosophy/Mind/?view=usa&ci=9780195117899">The Conscious Mind</a></i><br />4. David Velleman, <i><a href="http://www.cambridge.org/us/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=0521670241">Self to Self</a></i><br /><br />-------------------------------------------------------------<br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Sense and Sensibilia, </span>Chapters X and XI<br /><br />David F. was on point tonight for the workshop. He got things going by asking three questions about the penultimate chapter in <span style="font-style: italic;">S&S:<br /><br /></span><ol><li>When Austin is arguing against the view that there are kinds of sentences that are incorrigible, he says that it is possible to have "<span style="font-style: italic;">complete</span> confidence" in statements that one makes, but that the confidence is due not to the kind of sentence that is uttered, but to the "<span style="font-style: italic;">circumstances</span>" when one makes them (114). He gives the following example of such a statement: "...if I watch for some time an animal a few feet in front of me, in a good light, if I prod it perhaps, sniff, and take note of the noises it makes, I may say, 'That's a pig'; and this too will be 'incorrigible', nothing could be produced that would show that I had made a mistake" (114). But, hold on--in what sense (if any) is it true to say, as Austin does here, that nothing <span style="font-style: italic;">could</span> be produced that would show that I had made a mistake?<br /></li><li>When Austin considers Ayer's claim that "'material object' statements are <span style="font-style: italic;">as</span> <span style="font-style: italic;">such</span> not conclusively verifiable" (117), he argues that, in general, "statements about 'material things'" don't need to be verified. He gives as an example that a speaker who knows that he lives in Oxford cannot even count as verifying that he lives in Oxford (117-118). Fine, David said, but is this just something specific about verification? That is, would Austin's criticisms still be relevant if Ayer had said "justifiable" in place of "verifiable"?<br /></li><li>One of Austin's primary targets in chapter X is the idea that there is a class of sentences that have some kind of incorrigible status. These sentences, if they existed, might serve as a foundation for the rest of our knowledge (105). David asked whether, granting that there isn't a special class of sentences that have a special incorrigible status, is there still room for a <span style="font-style: italic;">foundation</span> for knowledge? Maybe not an incorrigible foundation, but a foundation nevertheless? (David then quoted W. Sellars to the effect that without an empirical foundation our knowledge would be classed with rumors and hoaxes as support for the idea that we may want a foundation even if it isn't an incorrigible one.)</li></ol>We discussed these questions in reverse order.<br /><br />I said, in response to David's third question, that I thought Austin would be equally suspicious of a non-incorrigible foundationalism of the kind David attributed to Sellars. Why should there be a special kind of knowledge (observational knowledge) that is what all of our other knowledge rests on? Consider Austin's Oxford example (117-118): does my knowing that I live in Oxford "rest" on some foundation of observational knowledge? I think Austin would say that it is incorrect to say that it does. David suggested that self-knowledge (that one is in pain, for example) might also be a case where the idea of the knowledge as resting on an observational foundation seems out of place.<br /><br />(There was some discussion at this point of McDowell's epistemological views, and whether he counts as a foundationalist (in some sense or other). I don't think we reached any substantial conclusions about that topic.)<br /><br />Jason asserted, in response to the second question, that Austin has scored only a minor victory over Ayer by showing that not all statements must be "verified" to count as knowledge. He hasn't established the more interesting result that not all statements about 'material things' need to be <span style="font-style: italic;">justified</span> if they're to count as knowledge. Jason went on to say that whenever we know something (like that we live in Oxford, say), we know it in some particular way (or ways). That way (or those ways) constitute a justification for what we know.<br /><br />Will in particular argued against this point, claiming some inspiration from McDowell, but it seemed that by the end of the discussion Jason's assertion about there always being a way in which we know something hadn't been knocked down.<br /><br />We then spent some time trying to figure out what Austin could have meant by saying that "nothing could be produced to show that [he] had made a mistake" in the situation he describes with the pig. We thought that actually it was pretty easy to come up with ways in which things could be produced to show that Austin had made a mistake even when he's been watching the animal a few feet in front of him, prodding it, sniffing it, and so on. Maybe it's a warthog in a pig-costume, for example. It would certainly be true that nothing could be produced to show that Austin had made a mistake if he <span style="font-style: italic;">knows</span> that the animal he's looking at is a pig. But he doesn't give that as his reason for saying that nothing could show he had made a mistake. So we wondered about what was going on here, and we suggested some possible things Austin might mean by "nothing could be produced that would show I had made a mistake". But the most plausible was pretty underwhelming: we thought maybe Austin just meant "could" in some practical sense of "could", where for most practical purposes, you couldn't convince me that the thing in front of me wasn't a pig. Only in odd philosophical situations would that be possible, and this isn't such a case.<br /><br />We then wrapped up the discussion of the Austin and concluded the workshop for this academic year. Huzzah.Nat Hansenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12625816054763599267noreply@blogger.com