Tim's (Very Silly) Reason's For God cont...

tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11135493.post-31936742141025856532008-04-28T07:50:00.002Z2008-04-28T08:50:34.456ZTim's (Very Silly) Reason's For God cont...OK so Tim steps up to Rung 2 (you realise it takes more faith to disbelieve than to believe). He starts with the old: the probability of life existing is so small that it is ridiculous to suggest it just happened by chance. He makes an analogy with a poker player getting hand after hand of straight aces and suggests any normal person would 'slug the guy' for cheating. This goes back to what I was saying in an earlier post - religion likes to appeal to 'common sense'. 'Everybody knows' if someone got 23 consecutive poker hands of straight aces they'd be cheating. The problem is, nobody really knows what the odds for life-creation are. Nobody really knows what the Universe is, how big it is, how it got here, if there was anything before it or if there will be anything after it. Tim has already said his god exists outside the Universe. Mate, it's hard enough dealing with shit inside this Universe, if you're going to start looking outside it you can forget concepts such as probability. How could you look at nature and say there's something wrong with it? To believe in human rights is to say everything else in nature is wrong. Nope. Tim's trying to say humans aren't like the rest of nature. Because we act against the 'survival of the fittest' principle. No we don't. Those who think we do don't understand the principle. My evidence: 9 BILLION people by 2050. Why? - because we look after each other, use our intelligence and work in social groups to create systems by which we are THE fittest primate species on this planet, right now. We're not the only species to work in this way, either. It's just we have the intelligence to really exploit it. If there is a God, human rights make sense. If there is no God, human rights don't make sense. Oh.... sigh... groan... fuck me... I hate these halfwits... make them stop... please make them stop... Human rights makes perfect sense to me. But perhaps that's because I've spent more than 13 seconds thinking about it. Christians have burnt people, tortured people, eaten their heathen babies, stuck them on spikes, you name it, Christians have done it to their fellow humans. Meanwhile, human societies have developed. In general, the wealthier a nation is, the more able it is to protect its citizens and the more able those citizens are to demand protection. Some wealthy countries, like the USA, let those protections slip (<a href="http://www.unsubscribe-me.org/">Unsubscribe-me.org</a>). It's not fullproof. But, in general... Is this so hard to understand? Tim seems to be saying we need to explain the existence of human rights and the best way to explain them is by saying God exists. No, Tim. Human rights exist because humans exist. Belief in God makes more sense of life, right? Yes, that a god would create a bunch of beings even though he didn't need them and knowing they would go bad he set up some deal where he would sacrifice himself to himself and then if those creatures believed that he had they would exist in Happy Forever while the creatures who didn't would live in Unhappy Forever. Yes, Tim, that really makes my life make sense. And that's about it in terms of the 'reasons' for God. The third rung is all about commitment. Now that you realise it takes less faith to believe in God than to reject him, you have to invest in your belief... blah blah blah. So, to sum up, the reasons to believe in a god are... I think I'll break these down into 3 rungs: rung 1) because otherwise you have to think properly about things. If you just believe 'God done it' then that explains everything without you having to think at all. rung 2) now that you've stopped thinking, you're stupid enough to go out an buy Tim's book and make him very wealthy indeed. rung 3) ... 2... 1... and you're back in the room!Simonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13905592870063005287noreply@blogger.com12