tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10381465.post116975053501255034..comments2007-02-11T09:04:52.861-08:00Comments on Secondhand Smoke: Your 24/7 Seminar on Bioethics and the Importance of Being Human: PETA's Big Lie About "Gay Sheep"Wesley J. Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00087063614354714652wjs@wesleyjsmith.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10381465.post-1169828761848568772007-01-26T08:26:00.000-08:002007-01-26T08:26:00.000-08:00This was my response to Barry from the UK: "Thanks...This was my response to Barry from the UK: "Thanks for writing. Treating animals humanely is of course, a human duty. It flows directly from exceptionalism.<BR/><BR/>But for Christians, there is no warrant for elevating humans to the moral value of people in the Bible, at least of which I am aware. Somehow Proverbs did not prevent the practice of animal sacrifice at the Temple, and indeed, Christ did not scourge the temple because animal sacrifices were going on, but due to money changing practices. Mary and Joseph sacrificed doves at the Temple to mark Christ's birth. The first animal in the world killed, according to the Genesis story, was by God to provide animal skin <BR/>coverings for Adam and Eve. Christ said explicitly that God marks the fall of every sparrow, and THEN says that our lives are worth much more than that of a sparrow. I would also point out that when Christ told his disciples to prepare the meal for the Last Supper, he was telling them to kill a lamb, since as an Orthodox Jew, he was required to eat lamb at the Passover Feast. I could go on and on and on.<BR/><BR/>If you support animal rights/liberation, it is because you have decided your morality requires it. That too, is part of what makes us an exceptional species. But the Bible does not support your belief.<BR/><BR/>If you oppose animal experimentation then you propose not taking action to alleviate significant human suffering. That hardly seems in keeping with Christian obligations to each other.Wesley J. Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00087063614354714652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10381465.post-1169828631142533862007-01-26T08:23:00.000-08:002007-01-26T08:23:00.000-08:00I received this by e-mail from a UK visitor: "Prov...I received this by e-mail from a UK visitor: "Proverbs, 12,10 states that humane behaviour to animals is "righteous" (i.e. in the O.T. context "after God's heart"), whereas cruelty to animals is "wicked". Pretty strong terms, so how can any Bible believing Christian support experiments, or any practice, which causes animals to suffer?<BR/><BR/>Far from a danger, animal liberation is a biblical concept, brought about by Christ's death and resurrection: see Isaiah 11, 6-9; Romans 8, 19-22; Colossians 1,20; and Revelation Chs. 4 and 5. <BR/><BR/>Animal "rights" lie in the fact that they are God created and protected (see the leading British theologian, Andrew Linzey's, concept of "theos rights" for humans and animals). <BR/><BR/>There are dangers is humanexceptionalism: humans have enough of a tendency to see themselves as gods. Being in the image of God is not a power thing, but a service/sacrificial thing, as Christ demonstrated. That puts a whole new slant on "dominion" - service, not use/exploitation. The whole creation is suffering because of the effects of Man's sin at the Fall, and we should be reversing that, as Christ's sacrifice did, not perpetuating it by cruel experiments. After all, "the whole creation is waiting for the sons of God to be revealed" (in Romans 8,19-22). Do they see a tormenter as a son of God being revealed?<BR/><BR/>Just some thoughts: hope they help.<BR/>"Wesley J. Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00087063614354714652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10381465.post-1169824372022132502007-01-26T07:12:00.000-08:002007-01-26T07:12:00.000-08:00I've always enjoyed PETA members. They're yummy w...I've always enjoyed PETA members. They're yummy with munster on rye.<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I'm having flash-backs to the bad jokes on the Kevorkian thread.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, once again, it's all hype and emotional manipulation. Sex drags in the young guys, homosexuality drags in anybody who's got a say in the gay community. I'm wondering how long it'll be before they start having guys get naked to draw in young homosexual males, if they're already doing full female nudity.<BR/><BR/>This whole thing had ME offended, and it turns out to be some kind of send-up. PETA is rapidly losing credibility.T E Finehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02145212330537906750noreply@blogger.com